nvidia 6200 ???

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akshayt

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if you buy a card for 35k then will you sell it at 50k?

also,last time when the 6800 series or ultra was released , the price of 9800pro didn't fall drastically.
 

sidewinder

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akshayt said:
if you buy a card for 35k then will you sell it at 50k?

also,last time when the 6800 series or ultra was released , the price of 9800pro didn't fall drastically.
Which one is better 6200 or Fx 5900.It let s me play all games@1024*768*32 with 4x aa @ high settings!!!!
 
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PainKiller

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i thought 6200 is better than 5900 b'cos its 6x series card from nvidia n it also support pixel share 3.0.......does 5900 support it :?:
 

Ethan_Hunt

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PainKiller said:
i thought 6200 is better than 5900 b'cos its 6x series card from nvidia n it also support pixel share 3.0.......does 5900 support it :?:
Nope.The 6200 is a low end card in the 6-series on Nvidia cards.Agreed that it supports SM 3.0 but thats just not enough to pump up the juice that the Fx5900 and the 5900Ultra delivers.This card will hardly be able to deliver games decently with AA and Af enabled whereas the 5900 onwards cards will give you quite a decent performance as compared to 6200 at higher resolutions.Plus 5900 is the higher end models in the Fx range and is not pitted against the 6200.The cards that do compare or go Hand-In-hand are Ati's X300 and X600 based cards.
Lastly The FX5900 or rather the whole Fx series don't support Sm 3.0.This is just a feature which currently only the Nvidia's 6xx Series enjoy but ATI aint too far away as the soon to be released R520 core will wipe every Nvidia cards clean in terms of Specs and will introduce SM 3.0 for the 1st time in its garphics cards.:D
 

deathvirus_me

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i thought 6200 is better than 5900 b'cos its 6x series card from nvidia n it also support pixel share 3.0.......does 5900 support it

The 6200 may support sm3.0 .. but a FX5900 or above is far better at performance .... a simple compaison of memory bandwidth should explain this :

6200

mem. interface : 64 bit/128 bit .. lets consider a 128bit model....
memory clock : 500 MHz ...

memory bandwidth : around 8 GBps ...

FX5900

mem. interface : 128 bit/256 bit .. lets consider the 256 bit model
memory clock : 800 MHz

memory bandwidth : around 25 GBps ....


So even if the sm3.0 in the 6200 can suffice some gain in performance when handling sm2.0 .. the raw mem. bandwidth o te FX5900 or above easiy ouperforms ...

the 6200 is more like a FX5200 of the 6 series ...

moreover the 256bit mem. bandwidth of th FX59xx seres helps it to handle aa,af more easily ...

And imagine a FX5950XT card clocked at 950MHz !!! the 6200 will easily lose ...
 
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PainKiller

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As u said ".....5900 is the higher end models in the Fx range and is not pitted against the 6200.The cards that do compare or go Hand-In-hand are Ati's X300 and X600 based cards....."

i have read many reviews abt the 6200 n in every review 6200 clearly outperforms x300 or x600.....can u explain to my....WHY
 
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PainKiller

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hey guyz,

check out this review....it is the most comprehensive review abt graphic card.......AGP/PCIE - NVIDIA/ATI
*graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041222/index.html

in this review....6200 is the clear winner over 5900 in almost all games. any explaination?
 

Ethan_Hunt

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PainKiller said:
i have read many reviews abt the 6200 n in every review 6200 clearly outperforms x300 or x600.....can u explain to my....WHY
.....and when did i say that 6200 didnt beat X300 or X600 cards.I clearly mentioned it being pitted against those cards meaning that it goes into competition with those cards but i never compared any synthetic benchmarks.FYI i was talking about the AGP Fx5900 and not the PCX 5900.The Fx5900 in AGP version beats both the PCI-E and AGP counterparts in terms of RAW bandwidth,Specs of which deathvirus already has stated up above.Like he also rightly said
deathvirus_me said:
the 6200 is more like a FX5200 of the 6 series ...
Give me a AGP comparison of Fx5900 being beaten by any 6200 and then we can talk.

PainKiller said:
in this review....6200 is the clear winner over 5900 in almost all games. any explaination?
Again the PCI-E talk to which i never raised any comment.Oh btw that Link of yours just showed the Fx5900 trashing the 6200 in Source Engine (HL2),Battlefield Vietnam,UT2k4 and COD tests @1024x768 resolutions which is pretty decent IMO.:D
 

mako_123

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hey allwyn

Can you please enlighten me on memory bandwidth , memory clock etc. So i can also increse my knowledge .
 

Ethan_Hunt

Aspiring Novelist
Hmm....Lemme see.Though i am nowhere near to an expert i'll just give you a slight gist of what i know.:D

Memory Bandwidth is basically the rate of tranfer speeds from the Graphics processing Unit(GPU) to the main Graphics memory.The higher the rate of bandwidth the more will be the data transfer and hence your Gfx card will be able to draw textures faster.Latest cards support and push the bandwidth memory to as high as 35.2Gb/s(Geforce 6800Gt).

Memory clock speed is like the GPU's core clock speed just that it relates to the actual memory of the Gfx card and not the core speed.This speeds are reuiqred to apply pixels from the Graphics cards Memory which contains the main textures.Its mainly measured in Mhz.

Anything more you need then this site will help ya *www.help2go.com/article239.html
*www.matrox.com/mga/theguide/contents/home.cfm
*www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=105
*www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=404

Hope this helps a lil :wink: Rest members will correct me if i am wrong somewhere.
 

sidewinder

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Yesterday one of my friend bought a 6200 xfx 256 mb.After he plugged it in i realised that this card is a trash.It cant even run 1024*768 nfs u2(it actually runs but everything is jerky).Even at 800*600 the graphics start to buckle up with anything more than medium details.
Price 128 mb 128 bit 3200+tax
256 mv 128 bit 3800+tax
This card is not worth the the money.Surely it has the features of a hifg end card such as shader 3.0 but =it just doesnt hav the juice to get the advantage out of it.It surely feels in the same series as 5200 with some feature improvements.Thats it.We were using forceware 76.38 @8x mode.
Machine was 28ht with i875pnz canterwood with 512mb ddr 400 in dual channel with seagate sata.Fx 5700 is a much better card and is available in lower price right now.
So if u have the money go for 6600.Dont waste ur money here
 
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PainKiller

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hey sidewinder,

does 6200 really that bad??? i mean...its a lot newer than fx 5xxx series but if u have seen it in action....i will believe u...after all ur the in-hourse geek :)

so, i guess i wil buy a fx 5900....can u tell me d cost in delhi...which brand n model shud i buy i.e. xfx/big/gigabyte etc....n... 5900 xt/ultra etc.

1 more thing....what abt d performance of BIG cards....i m sure its pretty new company.

cheers
 

sidewinder

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PainKiller said:
hey sidewinder,

does 6200 really that bad??? i mean...its a lot newer than fx 5xxx series but if u have seen it in action....i will believe u...after all ur the in-hourse geek :)

so, i guess i wil buy a fx 5900....can u tell me d cost in delhi...which brand n model shud i buy i.e. xfx/big/gigabyte etc....n... 5900 xt/ultra etc.

1 more thing....what abt d performance of BIG cards....i m sure its pretty new company.

cheers
Do u mean BIGforce cards? Never seen one but online reviews put it in the same league as xfx.
I own a fx 5900.i bought it @ 11 k.Now the price shd be a lot less but u shd go for 6600gt i think.currently going for 8.5 k for agp
 

sidewinder

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PainKiller said:
hey sidewinder,

does 6200 really that bad??? i mean...its a lot newer than fx 5xxx series but if u have seen it in action....i will believe u...after all ur the in-hourse geek :)

so, i guess i wil buy a fx 5900....can u tell me d cost in delhi...which brand n model shud i buy i.e. xfx/big/gigabyte etc....n... 5900 xt/ultra etc.

1 more thing....what abt d performance of BIG cards....i m sure its pretty new company.

cheers
If u wanna go for premium nobody beats MSI nd ASUS.Mine was an MSI.For budget vanila solution xfx is the best
 

deathvirus_me

Wise Old Owl
Yesterday one of my friend bought a 6200 xfx 256 mb.After he plugged it in i realised that this card is a trash.It cant even run 1024*768 nfs u2(it actually runs but everything is jerky).Even at 800*600 the graphics start to buckle up with anything more than medium details.
Price 128 mb 128 bit 3200+tax
256 mv 128 bit 3800+tax

the prices u quote are those of the 64bit ver. and not the 128bit ver. .... and you dont expect great performance from a card with 64bit mem. even if its a 6 series card .. now do you ???

oes 6200 really that bad??? i mean...its a lot newer than fx 5xxx series but if u have seen it in action....i will believe u...after all ur the in-hourse geek Smile

so, i guess i wil buy a fx 5900....can u tell me d cost in delhi...which brand n model shud i buy i.e. xfx/big/gigabyte etc....n... 5900 xt/ultra etc.

the 6200 really performs better than the lower end FX cards like the FX5200,FX5500,FX5700 ..... the FX5900 is better than the 6200 .. but if ur considring to get a FX5900 then dont coz. u'll get a 6600 at the same psice .. and a 6600 easily beats a FX5900 .....
 
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PainKiller

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hey guyz,

BIG stands for 'BEST IN GRAPHIC' the owner of this company are the same guyz who distribute xfx cards in india...yes u guessed it right...big byte corporation....they have start manufacturing their own brand of nvidia based graphic cards n they r approved by nvidia (imp: there r only 15 companies in d world who r approved by nvidia) so, BIG is gonna b the first indian company in the field of graphic cards.....now the main que...how they gonna manage selling both BIG n xfx cards bcos both of these cards r gonna b coming in the market thru bbc itself...i have no idea :roll: ....if any1 know abt the performance n price of BIG cards then du let me know...their url is www.big-tek.com but u wont find anything relevant...only three fu**ing images...try the search feature....the one n only feature which is working :wink: if u know more abt the BIG cards.....kindly post it here...lookin forward for lots of replys

bye
 

sidewinder

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deathvirus_me said:
Yesterday one of my friend bought a 6200 xfx 256 mb.After he plugged it in i realised that this card is a trash.It cant even run 1024*768 nfs u2(it actually runs but everything is jerky).Even at 800*600 the graphics start to buckle up with anything more than medium details.
Price 128 mb 128 bit 3200+tax
256 mv 128 bit 3800+tax

the prices u quote are those of the 64bit ver. and not the 128bit ver. .... and you dont expect great performance from a card with 64bit mem. even if its a 6 series card .. now do you ???

oes 6200 really that bad??? i mean...its a lot newer than fx 5xxx series but if u have seen it in action....i will believe u...after all ur the in-hourse geek Smile

The price i quoted was for 128 bit version only dude.And u r wrong dude...fx 5700 is still a pretty decent card.6200 is no match for it

so, i guess i wil buy a fx 5900....can u tell me d cost in delhi...which brand n model shud i buy i.e. xfx/big/gigabyte etc....n... 5900 xt/ultra etc.

the 6200 really performs better than the lower end FX cards like the FX5200,FX5500,FX5700 ..... the FX5900 is better than the 6200 .. but if ur considring to get a FX5900 then dont coz. u'll get a 6600 at the same psice .. and a 6600 easily beats a FX5900 .....

The price i quoted was for 128 bit version only dude.And u r wrong dude...fx 5700 is still a pretty decent card.6200 is no match for it.Its performance is somewhat between fx 5200 nd 5600.
And yes dont go for 5900 now.Spend around 8 k and u will get 128 mb 6600 nd 6600gt for 9.5 k for agp version.PCIe costs less.around 6k and 8 k respectively.
Still the price of 6200 is not justified..I wont spend 3.5 k for such a low end card.Its price shd be around 2 to 2.5 k max.
 
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