NON- gaming pc w/o monitor for 24 k

[whitestar_999]

ASRock is available in limited areas & for RMA/after sales support you most probably have to spend extra time/money to send your mobo to service center compared to intel.once at service center though ASRock service is good i think.also 4gb ram is good enough for general usages.i use 2gb ram on an intel atom system & work often with 10-15 open tabs in firefox.my cousin uses all types of games/softwares/emulators/what not on his 4gb ram i5 mobile laptop & he never felt the need for more ram.

 

[mastercool8695]

i just came about a buddy on the forum. he bought the gigabyte b75 mobo for 3.9 k + tax
so planning to buy it..
any other suggestions about the whole system , please post fast..
as the day is coming..

 

[acewin]

Intel DH77EB Motherboard vs Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard vs ASUS P8B75-M LE Motherboard vs ASUS P8B75-V Motherboard: Compare Motherboards: Flipkart.com

Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard sounds good to me

you can go with gigabyte mobo in both case. it is better than H61 mobos in higher price as well.

 

[mastercool8695]

@acewin : buddy your comment

my mistake you choose core i3

is making my mind race against my will.
please tell me what does that mean..

i'll have to take the risk.
will go for gigabyte ga b75m d3h for 3.9 k

Component Model price
CPU i5 2400 / I5 2320 --------------------------->11000
MoBo GIGABYTE-*GA-B75M-D3H*(rev. 1.0)----------> 3900
PSU CORSAIR VS 450 --------------------------->2100
RAM CORSAIR 1X4 GB STICK ---------------------->1100
HDD WD 500GB (3900) / WD 1 TB (4350)----------> 4350
DVD writer ASUS DRW-24B5ST / LG ---------------> 1100
UPS APC 600 VA --------------------------------->1950
Cabinet --------------------------------------->700
Total --------------------------------------->26200

its far from the budget.
please help.

any way to decrease it to ~24 k ??

 

[whitestar_999]

you can get intex 600VA ups for ~1200 but with few minutes less backup time(still more than enough to save & shutdown system).other than this i don't see much chances of cost reduction.anyway difference between ~24k & ~26k is only 2000 which is not much.it is better to spend 2k extra now then regret later.

 

[acewin]

i am having my laugh now. do not know past 2 days most of my comments are not posted

 

[mastercool8695]

@acewin i somewhere read about more members having the problem.
please pm me what you were going to post.(that is going to help me)

it is better to spend 2k extra now then regret later

due to this line i'have already extended the budget to 24~25 k.
i'll go for intex one..
700 left from that.
and i'll buy 500 gb @ 3.7 k
that will bring down the total.

still open to suggestions

 

[acewin]

I undestand that. Microtek UPS are relatively better than intex. But still APC is adivsable and do not switch from it
about core i3 due to your earlier posts I presumed that you have fixed on a core i3 proccy.
And about the mobo, on paper the mobo is quiet good


I am suggesting you may buy Microtek UPS.
BTW, how much are you gonna use DVD burners. if not much and you know or get to understand to boot from USB (here I am supposing you would have any pen drive).
or you can also use any old burner attach it with the rig only to get the installation done. If not and have friend with a system, you can format your HDD putting in his system and get OS installation done. Then remove it and put it back into your system.

 

[mastercool8695]

i'm gonna use dvd burners.
so no issue with it.
will the i3 be futureproof enough for 4 years.
suppose i drop the idea of video editing , just virtual dj and adobe photoshop cs6 can run good on i3 ???

and what does that mean :

And about the mobo, on paper the mobo is quiet good

 

[whitestar_999]

i5 is definitely recommended over i3 when planning for 4 years usage.intex ups is alright(many here are using it including myself).with this & 500gb hdd i think your total comes down to 25k which is reasonably good enough.if still not happy you can try a lower capacity hdd to further bring down the total.

as for acewin's comment here are some reviews from a major international online shopping site:
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

 

[mastercool8695]

will go for i5
and i selected the mobo only after reading the reviews ,
what i observed was that , almost no other b75 mobo had better comments then this.

i don't understand the meaning of "on paper " does that mean "as reviewed by others " ??

does it give enough backup time to shut off the running apps , and pc that will take approx 2 minutes (max) ??
i mean practically .. cuz the things given on the websites are not very practical .
as for my previous ups (which had gone kaput out recently) it didn't even last 15 secs
which model of intex ?

on the website, no info is given about backup time :*www.intextechnologies.com/webpages/producthomeups.aspx?pro_name=600VA+Style&category=Computer+Peripherals&subcat=UPS&subcat1=600+VA

 

[whitestar_999]

backup time is dependent on the battery used inside ups.cheaper brands use cheaper quality batteries but even the cheapest local battery can give 2 min backup initially.with time the capacity of battery reduces so your old local battery stopped giving any backup.intex is a reasonably good brand only difference being it uses batteries with lower capacity than costlier APC(which means more backup time) & maybe slightly less quality but still it should be able to give you enough time for shutdown.backup time also depends on load.e.g.if ups is loaded 100%(pc processor running at 100% during video encoding+monitor+speaker)then backup time will be ~1.5-2.5 min even for APC.lesser the load more will be the backup time.

P.S.btw your pc only will consume ~241W at 90% processor load(calculated using extremevision online power calculator).600VA means 600*0.6=360W true power.so if a ups can give 2 min of backup time with full load of 360W then with 241W(pc processor at 90% load)+monitor(assuming 80W)=321W will give you ~3-3.5 min backup easily.of course if your pc processor is at lower load(say ~10-20% watching movie etc) then backup time will be even more(say ~5-6min).

 

[Nanducob]

Im getting more than 5-8 mins without shutting down with my 600VA UPS.

 

[mastercool8695]

@ nanducob : please specify the company / model
will go for intex then.

 

[Nanducob]

The model is V guard slender 600,its 1.6k with 2yr warranty,i think.its written 10-15mins backup in the warranty card however i never used beyond 8-10 mins

 

[whitestar_999]

@mastercool8695,you asked the wrong question.instead of asking which company/model first ask for pc configuration to assess the load.i already posted about that in my previous post.your system total load(at 90% processor load) including monitor will be ~320W for which any decent brand 600VA ups(intex,microtek,luminous etc) can give ~2.5-3 min backup & lesser the load more will be the backup time(again see my previous post).

 

[mastercool8695]

sorry
please give me either one of the blacklist or whitelist names for the ups.

going market tomorrow.

going for i5 2320 or 2310 if budget doesn not permit i5 2400 is okay ???

 

[whitestar_999]

as such there is no list here but intex is considered by many here including myself as best budget option.if you have the budget then APC is the best option.in between there are microtek,luminous,numeric.you can get any i5.in fact my suggestion is get the cheapest i5 possible(2310 or 2320).

 

[mastercool8695]

okay.
thanks.
any tricks to follow while buying ??
i mean for good discounts.
nanducob and aAdirulz , you can comment too..

is it possible to get a samsung monitor within 5 k price range ??
i'm not gonna buy now but after 2~3 months..

 

[whitestar_999]

moderators cilus & topgear are from kolkata.you can ask them as they have good experience regarding various shops service.