NON- gaming pc w/o monitor for 24 k

[mastercool8695]

videoediting also after 10 - 11 months.
the softwares ,as of now , i'v thought of are:
cyberlink powerdirector
and magix movie edit pro

 

[Nanducob]

If youre video editing with pro softwares like edius,vegas pro etc 4 cores will benefit.

 

[mastercool8695]

the core thing i believe i'm afraid of is :
suppose i buy the i3 2100 but then there should be no time that the pc makes me feel that had i gone for the i5 , it would have been better.
just that.
i think you know the awkward feeling..
k.

i'have suffered a lot with my p4 i dont want any thing lagging with this one..

and if i5 is the pick , i wanted to know that is i5 3450 (ivy b) similar to the i5 2400
cuz topgear said that the i5 2400 is not easily available. so if it will not be available i would go for the ivy bridge.
i also found on google that ivy has heating issues.

 

[Nanducob]

Then,Go for the i5 2400,eyes closed.i feel like 4 cores are going to be a std in enthusiast machines for a long time.

 

[mastercool8695]

k.
i'll not be going eyes closed though. kolkata is not such a good place, there are many pick pockets. haha
so whats the final system ??

i think we should finalize this tomorrow as i'have school tomorrow and .....
k.
tomorrow ..
post your views . they are helpful..

 

[Nanducob]

Ivy has heating issues when its ocd like sandy,i think.

 

[whitestar_999]

from whatever i read on ivybridge heating issues it is a matter of concern only for overclockers & of course you have to buy an overclockable ivybridge K edition processor which i5 3450 is not.

 

[Nanducob]

Its a yay from me for the i5 2400,if you can find one.Wait for others suggestions.However if i5 2400 is not available go for 3450,since its 5-10% faster than 2400,its 1.5-2k more but its always good to have more power on a locked Cpu.

 

[mastercool8695]

ok then what for the mobo ??

please help me fill this :
please specify the model.
i'l go for a good cabby if budget permits otherwise i'l try to get a cheap .7k one

Component	Model	Price
CPU	I5 2400 OR I5 3450	11k
MoBo	<suggest> i had the ga b75m d3h in mind but.. (see my siggy)
PSU	<suggest>vs450	2.2
HDD	wd caviar black 1 tb (if in budget) or wb green/blue 500gb<suggest model>	5.1 k / 3.8k
RAM	Corsair DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1333C9)	1.2k
DVD ROM	DRW-24B5ST	1.1k
Cabinet	will go for a good on if budget permits
UPS	<suggest>APC 600VA	2.1 k
Total

calculated the wattage needed by the config to be 242 watts.
so any entry level psu should be sufficient ?

for dvd drive i'll go for asus : Which DVD writer to buy .? - View Poll Results

please suggest mobo , psu , ups and hdd
so that the total budget doesn't go above 24 k

can anyone please reply and or suggest me for the config ????

 

[whitestar_999]

i read about topgear's experience but if you keep blacklisting companies like this then you won't have any left to choose from.asus already has a bad reputation in this field & MSI too has some issues.my suggestion is unless you are in kolkata/will need service centre in kolkata you will be fine with gigabyte service.if still not convinced then that leaves only Intel H61 in your budget.rest of the components are fine except don't go for WD green series if you can afford blue/black.

 

[mastercool8695]

that is why i'm asking you guys to suggest a not so cheap but within the budget mobo.
i live in kolkata.
i also have something similar in mind about the hdd but i dont think it'll fit the budget.
still i will try to get blacks if possible.
will the h61 be ok for the proccy ?
i mean will it bottleneck the cpu ??
i dont need usb3 , sata 6 gbps , pci3 ,
and most of the drives are sata 6 gbps. they should work fine with the sata 3 gbps ports. right ?

 

[whitestar_999]

practically speaking mobo never bottlenecks a processor.H61 is fine for i5.sata 6gbps hard disks are only marketing gimmicks because normal hard disks can't even cross sata I 1.5gbps speed.to utilize 6gbps you need a very costly top of the line ssd drive.again pci3 is only relevant if you are a serious gamer planning on buying a ~Rs.20000 or costlier card/cards.

 

[mastercool8695]

i'm investing 24 k for the whole box.
i dont think i'll spend so much money on graphics for playing..
i think video editing is far much better
k.
now serious matters.
found this :
Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply @1.8 k
cx 430 is 2.4 k
and checked powersupply blacklist thread , its in the good brands.
so can i go for antec one.
its 2 year limited warranty v/s 3 yrs of cx
i know i mentioned vs 450 previously but it is out of stock even on the corsair website.

and sugegest a good h61 mobo.
and is h61 good for using onboard graphics ?

 

[delhiuser]

practically speaking mobo never bottlenecks a processor.H61 is fine for i5.sata 6gbps hard disks are only marketing gimmicks because normal hard disks can't even cross sata I 1.5gbps speed.to utilize 6gbps you need a very costly top of the line ssd drive.again pci3 is only relevant if you are a serious gamer planning on buying a ~Rs.20000 or costlier card/cards.

Agreed

 

[mastercool8695]

so may you guys now help me with a good lasting h61 mobo???

i'm still waiting for a response.

have these in mind :
asus P8H61-M LE
asus P8H61-M PLUS
MSI B75A-G43

GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H ** looks good for the price and features

 

[Naxal]

Why sticking with Intel ? In budget section, AMD is not at all a bad option, have you ever given that thought ??

Just expressing my views though, bellow config

AMD APU A8 3870K @ 3.0 GHz 3.0 GHz / 8 Core / HD 6550D DX11 @ Rs. 6,500
ASUS F1A75-M LE ~ SATA3 / USB3 (Find a lower spec board for money saving) @ Rs. 6,500
Corsair or G.Skill (4x2) 8 GB 1600 MHz @ Rs. 4,000
WD Green 1.0 TB ~ 64MB buffer / SATA3 / 7200RPM @ Rs. 5,000
DVD RW Any @ Rs. 1,000
Antek 450 @ Rs. 1,800
Cooler Master 311 / 310 @ Rs. 2,200

Total 27k



You are from Kolkata, chadni prices are really lower than Web Prices, like WD in web is around 5.2k which in chandi goes at around 4.2k . Try for a local el cheapo cabi if you want to save some money there too, 1k i guess can be saved from there too

Also some exp member can give you a lower spec board since this board is having CrossFire, which is no use of your, try from Gigabye, should come in at around 5k, thus getting the system in 24k mark..

 

[mastercool8695]

you mean wd black ?

its 4 core.
a single 4 gb stick will be enough for me..

found this :
*us.digitalversus.com/cpu/face-off/11922-10301-versus-table.html

AMD has made a great step forward with its APUs thanks to a much improved graphics processing unit. However, gamers would still need to use a separate graphics card alongside this APU. Plus, pure processing performances lag behind the competition.

dropped the idea of amd
its good for gaming
if i have to go for 6-7 k proccy , i'll go for i3 3220

only mobo remaining guys..
please help..
will buy this friday or so..

i'm not for gaming. if i were to go for a gaming rig , would have definitely selected naxal's rig.. its quite good for gaming

*www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A8-3870+APU

 

[whitestar_999]

first of all never buy asus mobo costing less than 5000 no matter what the processor is(intel or amd).now among gigabyte & msi i recommend gigabyte.so after all this best H61 mobo is gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H & for next generation it is again gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H.after gigabyte only other options to consider are intel DH61WW or ASRock H61M(availability & after sales support might be an issue compared to intel).

 

[acewin]

and the i keep at an average 7-8 tabs open.
if none of these gets affected after 4 yrs , i'll go for i3 2100

^^ i dont think so.
panwala has the combo.
and he's okay with it.

you need more RAM
4GB is very less

also get ivy bridge 3450, as it has better onboard gfx, in such case H61 will not the mobo chipset to buy


my mistake you choose core i3

 

[mastercool8695]

^^ so you recomment which mobo if i go for ivy 3450 ??
b75 ?
and didn't understand the last line
k.
asus out of the list.
now remains :


GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H ** looks good for the price and features, if i dont find i5 2400

GA-H61M-D2H if i find an i5 2400

and you mean the availability of asrock and its ASS will be bad as compared to intel ?