Nokia Lumia 1020 launched with 41-megapixel camera

gameranand

gameranand

Living to Play
Now it looks like it can sell. As some windows users might be interested but it will all come down to price really. People don't buy a phone just for Camera and this phone has nothing except the camera.
 
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quagmire

quagmire

Allllright !
ZTR said:
Honami has a smaller sensor and low pixel count :p
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Both are equal:

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Sony Honami cameraphone detailed further: glass/metal body, larger sensor than the Nokia N8


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Nokia Lumia 1020: smaller sensor camera than 808 PureView, but could capture the best images of any smartphone

1/1.5" on Honami = 2/3" on 1020

But OIS will be the deciding factor..
The low-light performance of the Lumia 920 is incredible because OIS holds the sensor still and keeps the shutter open longer so you can capture more light
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1020 is even better!




gameranand said:
Now it looks like it can sell. As some windows users might be interested but it will all come down to price really. People don't buy a phone just for Camera and this phone has nothing except the camera.
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+1.
Will surely be priced above 40k.

amjath said:
Read in some comments that Images produced are not snappier, it has a lot of noise compared to Pureview 808. OS to blame
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:shock: Where?
 
Harsh Pranami

Harsh Pranami

Padawan
Seriously man!! No expandable memory??? Don't you think 32 gb memory will prove a bit unsufficient for recording 1080p at 30 fps. Considering the fact that this phone will not be used for recording purposes only.
 
randomuser111

randomuser111

Technomancer
ZTR, who told you that ???

Honami has 2/3" back illuminated Exmor R sensor using all the same tech as Sony CyberShot RX100 II

It has In Sensor Image stabilization like in Sony Alpha/NEX/Handycam products. And I needn't mention how effective the image stabilization on those products is. People use the term "black magic" to refer to the effectiveness of Sony's in body stabilization aka Super SteadyShot

Now let's come to low light performance

Lumia 1020 has pixel size of 1.12 microns (same as Xperia Z and most other smartphones). Honami has pixel size 1.68 microns. That's a significant advantage. Only HTC One has higher pixel size but then it has a way smaller sensor.

Next let's come to the lens. Lumia 1020 uses f2.2 lens, while Honami uses a brighter f2.0 lens.

So Honami has 1 1/3 stop advantage over Lumia 1020

ISO goes up to 12800 in case of Honami(just like RX100 II),3200max in Lumia

Both feature Xenon + LED flash and manual controls for focus, aperture, shutter speed etc. But more camera customization in Honami.


But one big weapon in Honami's arsenal is the Sony Handheld Twilight Mode which will allow it to shoot possibly the best low light images possible from a smartphone. Google Handheld Twilight cybershot to know more about it.

Here's what CNET has to say about Handheld Twilight

If you want better low-light shots of still subjects, Sony's Handheld Twilight mode still produces some of the best high-ISO photos I've seen from a point-and-shoot.

*reviews.cnet.com/2300-6501_7-10017104.html
 
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Extreme Gamer

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amjath said:
The first Nokia Lumia 1020 camera samples are here - GSMArena Blog
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I saw the pictures they posted and compared the large image to the pureview version. It seems that pureview will also crop the edges of the taken image while processing it into the smaller resolution. The cropping is very small when you zoom out of the bigger picture, but it's noticeable if you look carefully.

In the first picture pureview seems to be keenly softening hard jaggies, and some details that are lost when you zoom out are brought back.

In the second picture (group photo) I found that the image seems to resemble those old movies which are remastered from SD sources or reel film scans. While the edges were definitely improved (smoothed), the colour gradation on the faces was not good. It slightly reminded me of images with lower colour spaces. Mind you this was only in the case of human skin. Other bits felt fine to me.

My observations for the third picture was similar to the first picture.

Fourth picture was also like the second picture, except that the skin colour gradation oddness seems to have extended to the white uniforms.

I didn't check all the pictures because my FUP period is up and loading the pictures takes too long, but I think it is safe to say that pureview works best with pictures of urban scenery. When there are humans abound then I think pureview should be kept off. That isn't to say that pureview is bad with pictures of humans. Basically purview's weakness seems to be grading different shades of the same colour. You can only observe this when you are actually viewing the full-sized 5MP image, and not when the image is zoomed out to fit the screen.

Can't comment on how pureview will behave with wildlife and natural screens because Nokia has yet to release pictures of the camera in that setting.

Note: My observation only applies the pictures taken by the Lumia 1020. It may well be that pureview on other models does not behave in this manner.
 
freshseasons

freshseasons

King of my own Castle
Does it being along DSLR Quality too ? I don't mind it having 8MP quality if SLR is what we are talking here. !! Else there's nothing but shock value with these digits.
 
Extreme Gamer

Extreme Gamer

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freshseasons said:
Does it being along DSLR Quality too ? I don't mind it having 8MP quality if SLR is what we are talking here. !! Else there's nothing but shock value with these digits.
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Certainly not dSLR quality if the given pictures are authentic. Maybe comparable to a quality megazoom, but nothing more. My Canon SX 30 IS (megazoom) takes better raw pictures than this (not sure about pureview though).
 
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quagmire

quagmire

Allllright !
Nokia should have included a better hardware on the 1020.
One can always get a Pureview 808 for 15k and a Lumia 520 and get pretty much the same experience :razz:


BTW there was no word on whether 1020 record HDR videos.. Any info?
 
randomuser111

randomuser111

Technomancer
No HDR pics/videos on the Lumia 1020.

Btw just seen Honami sample photos, must say Lumia 1020 is in deep trouble. Honami blows it away, as well as all compact digital cameras and Pureview 808 :)
 
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