New CPU - Budget 35-40K (CPU Only)

[Chaitanya]

Pls bring out specific point you want to say

 

[ShariqAnwer]

With few reviews now available for GTX 760, it seems that GTX 760 and HD 7950 with boost are virtually exchangeable.
Will 3 GB memory of 7950 would be of advantageous later over 2 GB of GTX 760? Single monitor setup @ 1080p.

Also 7950 will need a bigger cabinet. Which would be better CM 912 Combat or Corsair 300R?

 

[Chaitanya]

AFAIK 300r has toolfree design while 912 aint..
Also 300r looks more clean & is built of steel instead of aluminium

 

[ShariqAnwer]

Hi Guys. Thanks for your help so far.
Due to the free-fall of rupees vs dollars and some suggested upgrades my 40K budget has crossed 60K.
1. Should I buy as planned this Saturday or wait for a month? With the US job market showing good results, I fear Rupee may fall further.
2. As both the CPU (8500K) and GPU (HD 7950) are good with overclocking, please suggest a better motherboard. I found many articles with problem with ASUS M5A97 R2.0 during overclocking.
3. HD 7950 or 4 GB GTX 760?

 

[harshilsharma63]

Hi Guys. Thanks for your help so far.
Due to the free-fall of rupees vs dollars and some suggested upgrades my 40K budget has crossed 60K.
1. Should I buy as planned this Saturday or wait for a month? With the US job market showing good results, I fear Rupee may fall further.
2. As both the CPU (8500K) and GPU (HD 7950) are good with overclocking, please suggest a better motherboard. I found many articles with problem with ASUS M5A97 R2.0 during overclocking.
3. HD 7950 or 4 GB GTX 760?

So whats your final budget?

 

[NoasArcAngel]

cilus and all others. here are respected. red members but get your facts right before posting

c6 c7 low power states are disable as standard on low cost motherboards so don't make it a reason not to go for haswell

im really starting to think this is a paid forum. Also why was my signature edited? !

 

[ShariqAnwer]

@harshilsharma63 - 10-11K for motherboard. I am already over-budget.
In this configuration, I think Motherboard may become a bottleneck.
I just want to overclock a little. Not going to test the limits with liquid cooling and stuff.

Never heard of bitfenix.
Is Bitfenix Shinobi as good as 300R or HAF 912 Combat?
*mdcomputers.in/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1189

Which would be best for my build? (HD 7950 + CM Hyper 212 Evo + Moderate Overclocking)
1. FX 8350 + Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 (12800 + 11025 = 23825)
2. FX 8350 + Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (12800 + 11232 = 24032)
3. Intel Core i5 3570k + Asrock Z77 Pro 4 (15300 + 8925 = 24225)

 

[harshilsharma63]

@harshilsharma63 - 10-11K for motherboard. I am already over-budget.
In this configuration, I think Motherboard may become a bottleneck.
I just want to overclock a little. Not going to test the limits with liquid cooling and stuff.

Never heard of bitfenix.
Is Bitfenix Shinobi as good as 300R or HAF 912 Combat?
BITFENIX CABINET SHINOBI

Which would be best for my build? (HD 7950 + CM Hyper 212 Evo + Moderate Overclocking)
1. FX 8350 + Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 (12800 + 11025 = 23825)
2. FX 8350 + Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (12800 + 11232 = 24032)
3. Intel Core i5 3570k + Asrock Z77 Pro 4 (15300 + 8925 = 24225)

> For mild overclocking, Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 is also good. Its available for ~8k (price increased by >1k ).

> for cabinet, my vote goes for 300R for its good build quality.

 

[ShariqAnwer]

Based on your suggestions, I have shortlisted the following components -
1. PSU - Seasonic S12II 620 Watts - 5500 (Second Choice - Corsair TX 650 V2 - 6400)
2. Cabinet - Corsair 300R - 4900 (Second Choice - Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat - 5100)
3. CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - 2500 (Will get after 2 months)
4. GPU - Sapphire HD 7950 VAPOR-X 3GB DDR5 OC - 24500 (Second Choice - Zotac GTX 760 2GB DDR5 AMP Edition - 24000)
5. RAM - Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600FSB - 3800 (Will get another 2 GB later)
6. DVD RW - ASUS DVD RW 24X - 1100
9. HDD - Seagate or Western 1 TB - 4300

Still unsure about the processor and motherboard - FX 8350 (12800) or i5 3570K (15300) ?
Considering 3570k costs 2500 more and has better performance in single core/thread games. But the next-gen consoles have 8 core processor and future games may be better optimized for multiple cores/threads. My speculation is that multi-threaded optimized games will start appearing next year. What should I do? - doing flip-flops over them.

 

[Cilus]

FX 8350 is available at 12.07k in Flipkart, so buy from there and save 800 bucks. And instead of spending 15k+ just for the cpu, get theamd setup eith a better Graphics card.
With the saved money, a hd 7970 can be squeezed within your budget.

 

[truegenius]

gta4 uses upto 4 cores and 50+ threads
but i3-3240 and fx-8320 perfoms same in gta4

 

[Cilus]

gta4 uses upto 4 cores and 50+ threads
but i3-3240 and fx-8320 perfoms same in gta4

Could you please specify the context? Didn't get you actually here.

 

[ShariqAnwer]

There seems to be a problem. Sapphire HD7950 Vapor-X needs 2 8-pin PCI connectors. Does Seasonic S12II 620 has them?

 

[Coldbreeze16]

Welcome to Seasonic USA That PSU has 1X6 pin and 1X8 pin PCIe connectors. Since it's a new PSU the 6 pin one will have 3X 12V wires and can theoritically provide 150W. You get 2X 8pin connectors on high end PSU and considering that these GPU's come with those power adapters in box: yeah it's possible. But too much OC won't be possible (IMO) even without overvolting (totally impossible). Just my 2cents

 

[ShariqAnwer]

So it is Corsair TX650 V2 then. Going to shop on Saturday. Any last minute advice?

 

[Cilus]

So it is Corsair TX650 V2 then. Going to shop on Saturday. Any last minute advice?

Why, the Seasonic PSU is just fine for your purpose. You'll get a 8 Pin converter with the GPU itself and use to get another 8 pin connector. Regarding overclocking of the GPU, the PSU can easily handle it.

Coldbreeze16, please don't misguide the OP with your misleading information. Seasonic S12II 620 is premium PSU and it can handle a HD 7950 with ease with good amount of overclocking. In fact a good 550W PSU can easily handle a HD 7950. It does have only one 8 Pic PCI-E connector does not mean it can't handle GPU which needs two 8 pin PCI-E connectors DO you have any idea about how a PSU work and how it quality is to determine? Don't just throw some words here and there.

And this:

But too much OC won't be possible (IMO) even without overvolting (totally impossible). Just my 2cents

Please explain what do you mean my those above words?

 

[Coldbreeze16]

It does have only one 8 Pic PCI-E connector does not mean it can't handle GPU which needs two 8 pin PCI-E connectors DO you have any idea about how a PSU work and how it quality is to determine? Don't just throw some words here and there.

I mentioned it that post already. Don't the official specs say the 6 pin PCIe is supposed to carry 75W. Of course that 8 pin has just extra ground wires but THAT is the one that's officially supposed to carry 150W. Both have those three rails so both can carry 150W. And that's what practically most do, 6+8 pin for 300W. But as I said OFFICIALLY...

And besides I've read that overloading the 6 pin connectors by constantly drawing 150W through them (in the absence of 2 extra GND wires) can make them run hotter.

PS: Don't always make it personal, simply tell me I'm incorrect. I comment here what I've read on other forums. It's just GIGO. And I always add that those are my personal remarks, so you don't have to come down that hard. If I'm incorrect then tell me so and I'd be happy to learn something new.

 

[Cilus]

Sorry for the harsh word then. But not all the time it is necessary to throw whatever you got from other forums without understanding it properly. Instead of just going tthrough some forum posts, you can directly check the reviews in some good sites like Tomshardware, Anandtech, Guru3d. They have very good scientific methodology for testing and they provide a very accurate measurement of power consumption of the components they test.
This forum is little different and here people like more facts and scientific posts rather than what you call GIGO.
But again, sorry for the harsh words and I think you'll enjoy being here.

 

[Coldbreeze16]

Thanks mate. I thought the argument I read about the overheating problem of using 6 pin to provide 150W was logical because of increased resistance.

 

[bssunilreddy]

Based on your suggestions, I have shortlisted the following components -
1. PSU - Seasonic S12II 620 Watts - 5500 (Second Choice - Corsair TX 650 V2 - 6400)
2. Cabinet - Corsair 300R - 4900 (Second Choice - Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat - 5100)
3. CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - 2500 (Will get after 2 months)
4. GPU - Sapphire HD 7950 VAPOR-X 3GB DDR5 OC - 24500 (Second Choice - Zotac GTX 760 2GB DDR5 AMP Edition - 24000)
5. RAM - Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600FSB - 3800 (Will get another 2 GB later)
6. DVD RW - ASUS DVD RW 24X - 1100
9. HDD - Seagate or Western 1 TB - 4300

Still unsure about the processor and motherboard - FX 8350 (12800) or i5 3570K (15300) ?
Considering 3570k costs 2500 more and has better performance in single core/thread games. But the next-gen consoles have 8 core processor and future games may be better optimized for multiple cores/threads. My speculation is that multi-threaded optimized games will start appearing next year. What should I do? - doing flip-flops over them.

1. PSU - Seasonic SS-650KM -7500
2. Cabinet - Corsair 300R - 4000
3. CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - 2200
4. GPU - Zotac GTX 760 2GB DDR5 AMP Edition - 22000
5. RAM - Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600FSB - 3800
6. DVD RW - ASUS DVD RW 24X - 1100
9. HDD - WD Black 500GB - 4300
10. CPU - AMD FX 8350 -12500
11. MB - Asus M5A970 Evo R2.0 -8000.

TOTAL - 65,400.