Need help with 120k dream gaming setup

whitestar_999

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Actually I initially opted for regular 7200 rpm Seagate HDD for about 4.5k. But its just that Firecuda drives have 5 years warranty instead of 2-years on regular drives. Also I have read some reviews wherein they say that Firecuda 2TB has some performance benefit over regular 7200 rpm drives. Also Firecuda 2TB is available for around 8.2k at Nehru Place.
If you are lucky then even your 1 year warranty hdd will last 10 years but if not then even your 5 years warranty hdd will go bad in 5 months. Never trust any hdd just because of its longer warranty. Firecuda is basically a hdd+16gb ssd like storage so it is faster than a regular hdd but still much slower than a ssd. It used to be worth buying in early days of ssd when ssd was very expensive but not now. In Nehru Place you could have got regular 2TB hdd for ~4.5k & use the remaining amount to buy a 240gb ssd & still left with some money.
 

monkey

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It is not just about (small) SSD on firecuda drives but additionally normal HDDs are SMR based while Firecuda is CMR based. I think even this will have some performance impact. Frankly I would still opt for Firecuda (WD Black is good too but more expensive). Nothing like having peace of mind with extended warranty. I think warranty is a one parameter when one considers anything in the PC business - Zotac being a prime example for providing 2+3 years warranty - and hence being considered by majority of posters on the forums. I think warranty speaks a lot about the quality of the product and with TBs of data on the HDD it would be last on my list to compromise on (although I have backup drives present but then I have to spend a whole day to restore the PC to its original condition in case of drive failure).

And then when one has budget of 1.2L then spending a little extra on better drive will not hurt him.
 

whitestar_999

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It is not just about (small) SSD on firecuda drives but additionally normal HDDs are SMR based while Firecuda is CMR based. I think even this will have some performance impact. Frankly I would still opt for Firecuda (WD Black is good too but more expensive). Nothing like having peace of mind with extended warranty. I think warranty is a one parameter when one considers anything in the PC business - Zotac being a prime example for providing 2+3 years warranty - and hence being considered by majority of posters on the forums. I think warranty speaks a lot about the quality of the product and with TBs of data on the HDD it would be last on my list to compromise on (although I have backup drives present but then I have to spend a whole day to restore the PC to its original condition in case of drive failure).

And then when one has budget of 1.2L then spending a little extra on better drive will not hurt him.
Don't mind but It is your misconception that when it comes to hdd warranty has any significant impact. I will tell you this, LUCK is the biggest factor when it comes to hdd(speaking from personal experience of using more than a dozen hdd over a period of 15 years with some hdd clocking 56000 hours of operation & still running). There is no comparison of hdd with any other pc component be it graphics card,mobo,processor or anything else when it comes to significance of luck factor. That is also why you must never rely on anything other than multiple backups in different physical locations(aka other hdd,online storage etc) if you really care for that data.
 

monkey

Padawan
Don't mind but It is your misconception that when it comes to hdd warranty has any significant impact. I will tell you this, LUCK is the biggest factor when it comes to hdd(speaking from personal experience of using more than a dozen hdd over a period of 15 years with some hdd clocking 56000 hours of operation & still running). There is no comparison of hdd with any other pc component be it graphics card,mobo,processor or anything else when it comes to significance of luck factor. That is also why you must never rely on anything other than multiple backups in different physical locations(aka other hdd,online storage etc) if you really care for that data.
I agree that LUCK IS THE FACTOR to consider. I too have experienced many HDD failures in warranty time and many HDDs doing good even after many years of usage. But with quality issues faced by me in recent times in the PC department (many components and even laptops have died just when the warranty period expired - pure coincidence - repeated many times) I still prefer longer warranty. But again its my personal choice - not binding to anyone.

Second reason was CMR vs. SMR drives - if it makes noticeable difference.
 

whitestar_999

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I agree that LUCK IS THE FACTOR to consider. I too have experienced many HDD failures in warranty time and many HDDs doing good even after many years of usage. But with quality issues faced by me in recent times in the PC department (many components and even laptops have died just when the warranty period expired - pure coincidence - repeated many times) I still prefer longer warranty. But again its my personal choice - not binding to anyone.

Second reason was CMR vs. SMR drives - if it makes noticeable difference.
I agree it depends on person to choose, my post was more of giving all the facts to base your choice on. :)

CMR vs SMR might have made some difference when using as windows drive but as a storage device it will only make difference when copying 100s of GB to/from hdd when it has less than 30-35% space remaining.
 
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Tumbledoor

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Hey folks, been a while and a lot has changed. Covid put a pause on my international move, the CPUs and GPUs launched (while subsequently going out of stock) and my budget has increased.

I'll be headed to SP Road in Bangalore this week to purchase my PC parts, minus the case (already bought), NVME drive (already bought) and the GPU.

Would really appreciate some feedback/input on the below:

CPU: Ryzen 5600x | Rs 27,730
Mobo: MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi | Rs. 17,700
Ram: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8GB 3200Mhz | Rs. 6,136
PSU: CoolerMaster 750w 80+ Gold | Rs 8,200
Cabinet: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Razer Edition | Rs. 16,000 (already bought)
NVME: Kingston A2000 500GB | Rs. 5000 (already bought)
HDD: Western Digital 1TB | Rs, 3,100
Case Fans: non-LED 9 fans | Rs. 6000

This puts the budget at ~90k.

For the GPU, I'm going to wait until first week of December to pick up either RTX 3080 FE (assuming it comes back in stock) or the 6800XT.

GPU budget is at 70k, making the total budget sit at 160k.
 
Seems good. You might be able to find non-RGB 3600MHz RAMs for 6.5k or so.

Contact RPTech for 3080FE & ask if they maintain a queue or something. I think Rashi Peripherals also sold FE for close to Nvidia pricing.

Do note that the PC won't boot without a GPU.
 
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Tumbledoor

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thanks! Yeah I emailed RPTech and they said that 3080FE will be back in stock by Nov end. I plan on picking up the 6800XT on launch day if I can get my hands on it, if not, will wait for whichever GPU comes back in stock first.

Do note that the PC won't boot without a GPU.

Didn't know that! In this case, I'll assemble everything and will keep it ready for the GPU. Should be plug and play after that
 
thanks! Yeah I emailed RPTech and they said that 3080FE will be back in stock by Nov end. I plan on picking up the 6800XT on launch day if I can get my hands on it, if not, will wait for whichever GPU comes back in stock first.



Didn't know that! In this case, I'll assemble everything and will keep it ready for the GPU. Should be plug and play after that
Good strategy regd GPU, 6800XT & 3080 seem similar in performance.

That Ryzen CPU lacks an iGPU, unlike most Intel CPUs *except F suffix ones), so it won't boot up. You can use an old GPU though, if you have one.
 
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Tumbledoor

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Going to pick up the parts tomorrow and need a quick last minute sense check on the Mobo. Should I stick with the MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi or downgrade to a MSI B550m Pro VDH WiFi? The difference should be approx 5k.

I'm only going to be using the pc for gaming and may do a mild overclock on the CPU in a couple of years. At the moment, I intend to stick with the Wraith Stealth cooler that comes with the 5600x.
 

whitestar_999

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Going to pick up the parts tomorrow and need a quick last minute sense check on the Mobo. Should I stick with the MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi or downgrade to a MSI B550m Pro VDH WiFi? The difference should be approx 5k.

I'm only going to be using the pc for gaming and may do a mild overclock on the CPU in a couple of years. At the moment, I intend to stick with the Wraith Stealth cooler that comes with the 5600x.
A difference of 5k is not worth downgrading to a lower mobo model in a 120k gaming rig.
 
Going to pick up the parts tomorrow and need a quick last minute sense check on the Mobo. Should I stick with the MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi or downgrade to a MSI B550m Pro VDH WiFi? The difference should be approx 5k.

I'm only going to be using the pc for gaming and may do a mild overclock on the CPU in a couple of years. At the moment, I intend to stick with the Wraith Stealth cooler that comes with the 5600x.
For R5 5600X, even Pro VDH WiFi is enough even with OC IMO. But considering your budget, its not like its making a big difference. Moreover as you plan to OC it & considering Ryzen 5000 has better OC potential than 3000 did, better to have the higher tier mobo.

When you plan to OC, you would surely need a new cooler is Stealth is not that good, barely enough for stick CPU.
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Which series is this? What alternatives do you have from Corsair and Antec?
It should be CM MWE Gold, I don't know of other CM gold rated PSUs at that price point. Antec has Neo Eco Gold & Earthwatts Gold series at that price, like NE750G & EA750G. Avoid Antec Zen series, as its inferior to rest. Corsair TX series is better but more expensive as well.
 
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