Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

[solomon_paulraj]

Execution video: is this evidence of 'war crimes' in Sri Lanka?

Channel 4 News shows footage claimed to show Sri Lankan forces executing Tamils earlier this year. Jonathan Miller reports.

Just three months after the Sri Lankan government declared the country liberated from the Tamil Tigers, video footage has emerged apparently showing government troops summarily executing Tamils.

more here..*www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/execution%20video%20is%20this%20evidence%20of%20war%20crimes%20in%20sri%20lanka/3321087

 

[sujoyp]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

War crime is bad but nobody wants to spare a chance...

Both Ltte and army have killed families of the other....who will have the sympathy

 

[vaithy]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

War crime is bad but nobody wants to spare a chance...

Both Ltte and army have killed families of the other....who will have the sympathy

It is not about the sympathy.. it is about law of the land.. If the convicts are punished as per law there is no outrage.. but the problems is the army behaved like a rebel.. then where is the difference between them..

actually they are not LTTE cadres but youngmen from vanni region.. the LTTE fled before the army approach Kilinochi.. it is in the fit anger the civilians were executed
there are three lakhs innocent peoples who has no link with LTTE are at presently held at worst NAZI styled camps and kept tortured..Young peoples both men and women taken out camp and never returned
Your reply clearly expose the mindset of the ruling family.. Please treat the persons not one of the 'Tamil Savage" consider them as some human...their ancestors leave India thousands year ago to restore the honour.. they have no other protection except India...Presently Tamil Nadu is Only peaceful State
in India.. Because of LTTE, why punish rest of Tamil population..

 

[Faun]

^^true

Most of these people were given perish or join choice by LTTE. Those who remained against the LTTE were silenced by LTTE at the hilt of bayonets.

SL army should have tried to clear the chaff instead of killing them brutally treating them all alike. What is the difference b/w LTTE and SL army then ? Extra judicial killings only breed contempt and scorn.

 

[vista__n00b]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

...actually they are not LTTE cadres but youngmen from vanni region.. the LTTE fled before the army approach Kilinochi.. it is in the fit anger the civilians were executed...

...

...three lakhs innocent peoples who has no link with LTTE are at presently held at worst NAZI styled camps and kept tortured..Young peoples both men and women taken out camp and never returned...

What the...?
You are talking as if you were right there when the execution was taking place and as though you are sitting in those "NAZI styled camps"right this moment while writing this post. You are writing the post in such a matter-of-fact tone as though you know everything and have very easy access to each & every internal detail.

How do you know that the the video is not a LTTE (or whatever is left of them) propaganda? How do you know that the people killing in the video are not LTTE people while the man dying is a Srilankan Army Soldier or may be a civilian? Get real my dear friend...this is war...you can't tell one from the other. Gone are the biblical times when different armies used to wear different flags. Maligning your opponent in International Fraternity so that economical and other sanctions are imposed on the country is new kind of war. Whether you like that or not but the video could very well be NOT what you think it is. Just open your mind a bit.

 

[vaithy]

The video was authenticated by both Tamil and Singalese media persons.. third rated stuff may pass in Indian media.. but not in the International forum..
if the International media are maligned the singlaese ,why the Singalese are afraid to open the camp for media...perhaps they afraid about western power In such case why not open the camp for inspection to Indian journalists..leaked photos revealed they are living in 'hell just open the camp..
India is a Soverign country because by its Consititution.acts, Government,Democracy, because its multifaceted regions,religions can live together peacefully...
You say it is a war!!
What is war? A war is made by the different countries.. not by the group... A Government don't wage a war on its own citizen...I am over 50... Even from my childhood I know the srilanka problems.. 1505: The Portuguese arrive in Ceylon
1519: Tamil King Sangili alias Cankili I comes to the throne of Jaffna
1543: Cankili I orders 600 Christians in Mannar to be killed for forced conversion of Hindus
mid-16th century: The Vanniyar chieftains of Mullaitivu and Trincomalee allly with the Portuguese against Cankili and his attempts to subdue them.
1560: The Portuguese narrowly defeat Cankili in a battle to avenge the 'massacre of Mannar' and demand concession. They retain Mannar and put puppet king Edirmanasingham on the throne.
1564-65: Indian sources report a battle between the Nayak of Madurai and his Poligar army (on the order of the ruler of Vijayanagara) and the king of Kandy near Puttalam, in which the latter was defeated and killed.
1591: Cankili II (Cankilikumaran) declared governor of Jaffna by the Portuguese on condition that he has no contact with the Karaiyar generals.
1619/20: Cankili II allies with the Karaiyar general Mikkappillai (Migapulle) from Mannar; defeated after prolonged fighting with the Portuguese.
1620-24: Karaiyar generals continue the resistance against the Portuguese with the help of the Nayak of Tanjavur. After the final defeat the Karaiyar plunge themselves into their own swords.
1623: Cankilikumaran executed in Goa. The Portuguese destroy all big temples in Jaffna and Trincomalee.
1658: The Dutch take the Maritime Provinces including Jaffna from the Portuguese. They misunderstand the Kutimai and Atimai system and treat them as slaves, thus changing the economic and social structure of Jaffna.
1766: The Dutch force the King of Kandy to hand Batticaloa over to them in a treaty and cut off Kandy's access to the sea.
1795/96: The British take Ceylon from the Dutch. But the Tamils fought *****ed battle with them finally subdued,since Singales sided with British.
British made Tamils as slave to work in the hills tea plantation,but met stiff resitance from them finally brought tamils from Madras presidency to work their planatation... So With thousands of Tamils worked as slaves in tea planatation, the Bristish empire was prospered with tea trade
As a final reward the British who treated the Indian Plantation Tamils as slaves(Shastri-Srimavo pact covered their flight only some extended)
left the srilanka with all the powers vested with Singalese only..
So nothing changed in Sri lanka.. British Slavemaster replaced by Singalese slave masters.. Military, Police,court everywhere only singalese.. so it is not unusual that a tamil thief awarded a life sentence.. and a Singalese rapiest got few dollar fines...
Inequality brought discontent.. that is the root of the case.. at the start when Selvanayagam was the leading the Tamils he was interested only for the equality.. In 1957, the Eelam Gandhi, Selvanayakam, had a pact with Bandaranaike to meet
some of the aspirations of the Tamils. But the Buddhist clergy opposed the
pact. In ’65 Selvanayakam entered into an agreement with then President
Senanayake. J Jayawardane went on a padayatra opposing this agreement — and
the Sinhalas unilaterally abrogated it.
It was only after every peaceful affortunity lost with the singalese opposite the share of power with the Tamils, On May 14, 1976, under the chairmanship of Selvanayakam, the Tamils
unanimously resolved at Vaddukottai that co-existence with the Sinhalas was
impossible. They decided on a separate state of Eelam — and for a life of
dignity and honour.

The armed struggle began a year earlier in 1975. The Liberation Tigers of
Tamil Eelam (LTTE) was founded on May 5, 1975. Indira Gandhi and Tamil Nadu Cief Minister M.G.R helped set up training camps in India. When Indira Gandhi was assassinated, there was a black flag in every Tamil home in the
North and East. In fact, Sinhala forces opened fire that day asking the
Tamils: “Will your amma come and save you now?”

When Rajiv's IPKF entered the Srilanka to probate the peace deal, every Tamil in Srilanka has some hope.. But LTTE has taken some skirmishes with IPKF which blown to full scale war.. the singalese enjoyed the show.. Once the singalese P.M remarked his troops.' let the Indians and Tamils kill each other'
Thousands of Indian soldiers sacrified for another country's political cause but returned with humiliation... Not a single thanks was offerred to them by the President..For a friendship sake India give everything the colombo regime wanted.. arms, training,logistics support and just concluded war.. But not a single thank was offered to India..But they celebrate with their Chinese friends ..China today is simply building their naval base just 48 k.m from Indian maritime boundaries.. this is the reallity now...
Dear friend can I ask you as a fellow human..(for somebody as a Tamil I may not be a human atall)
Just watch the video
If You are a Tamil watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
If You are a Malayalee watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
If You are a Kannadika watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
If You are a Maratthi watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
If You are a Gujarathi watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
If You are a Punjabi watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
If You are a Indian watch the victims as one of you..just few more times
I have already watched it.. and downloaded it..
Thank you for asking me to be a openmind!!
The pain is because I am open mind..Knowledge is double edged weapons..some time it may kill the man who possess it.. this is just one of the time...

 

[vista__n00b]

The video was authenticated by both Tamil and Singalese media persons.. third rated stuff may pass in Indian media.. but not in the International forum..

Source? Can you post your source where International Forum has accepted the video as authentic? Even the news agency that is posting the video is claiming that they are not sure about the authenticity of the video...you on the other hand are damn sure about this "First Rated" stuff

You say it is a war!!
What is war? A war is made by the different countries.. not by the group... A Government don't wage a war on its own citizen...

Why? Have you never heard of Civil Wars? This is Civil War. What else do you think it is? Sri Lankan government was not waging the war; rather it was just fighting the Civil War against goons who wanted to break the country into pieces.

I am over 50... Even from my childhood I know the srilanka problems..

If you want to gain respect and credibility by dropping your age into the discussion then you won't succeed but I am surprised to note you mentioning "srilanka problems" rather than "Tamil Problems" because the propaganda that follows in your post just shows as though all the problems in this world are with Tamils. That is it...zip...period!!!

1505 - 1795/96
straight copy paste from here
*www.tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=180&id=888

Followed by lots of propaganda stuff.

I don't think I need to answer to that.

It was only after every peaceful affortunity lost with the singalese opposite the share of power with the Tamils, On May 14, 1976, under the chairmanship of Selvanayakam, the Tamils unanimously resolved at Vaddukottai that co-existence with the Sinhalas was impossible. They decided on a separate state of Eelam — and for a life of dignity and honour.

You know that is the exact same reason given by almost all of the terrorist groups?
Punjab Terrorism: Khalistanis can't live with Indians
Kashmir Terrorism: Kashmiri Muslims can't live with Indians
Bodoland Terrorism: Bodo Ethnic people can't live with Indians
Nagalnd Terrorism: Naga people can't live with Indians
Mizoram Terrorism: Mizo ethnic people can't live with Indians
Manipur Terrorism: Manipur tribal people can't live with Indians
Naxals/PWG/ULFA/Maoists can't live with Indians.

They all give same excuses for their terrorism as well. "It is not terrorism...it is Freedom Struggle". What should India do? Not wage war on these so-called citizens and let all of these "Freedom Fighters" make their own countries? Now, wouldn't that be an amazing solution?

Thank you for asking me to be a openmind!!
The pain is because I am open mind..Knowledge is double edged weapons..some time it may kill the man who possess it.. this is just one of the time...

That is why Eelams bought tons of Kalashnikovs, Tanks and even Air Planes? So it doesn't kill them?

IMHO stop the propaganda. Every country has problems but it doesn't mean that its citizens take Guns/Tanks/Air Force in their hands and kill other citizens. That is what terrorists do...and if they do that...they should be treated in ways that are apt for such people.

 

[vaithy]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

@vista__n00b
1)Mentioning the age is not because wanted respectability... but assure you that I have lived the period when the problem arised...
2)Thanks for mentioning the 1976 decision of 'Eelam' but you didn't comment about the peaceful struggle that 'selva' waged to regain honour and co-existance with singalese, and abrogation of earlier agreement with Pandaranayaki and Senanayake..Had the agreements implemented ,then that time the decision of Eelam does not arise..
2)The very fact equated the 'punjab,kashmirproblems with Eelam ' has exposed how immature your argument is...India is a true Democratic Republic country..which has the longest written Constitution..(Don't argue it'as a Indian
propaganda) but where as Srilanka 's Unitary..does't give equal rights..)
We Indian take the pride as 'Unity in diversity'
But Srilanka is only for Singalese Majority

You mentioned Kashmir and punjab..actually sympatehsied with your inability to grab the reasons because you are out of that time ZONE Where I was watched that event.. that is the reason for mentioning the age..
Kashmir was never the Internal Problem after the Nehru- Sheik Abdullah accord, only Pakistan was pissed the matter as annual routine its Islamic forum and occassionally with its USA Friends..After Sheikh his Son Farooq Abdullah has tiff with Indira Gandhi which led to his downfall with Indira Gandhi probe G.M Shah the brother-in law by dividing the National Conference..Thus the poilitical meddling in the state led to pak based groups activated...rest is History same in Punjab.. to spit on Akali leadership Indira Gandhi created 'Bhindranwale' and congress support him.. Then he turn in to monster..so in India the problems is not with our Constitution but actual meddling of politician led to fall of stable GOVT in that states led to anarchy..
Srilankans Tamils wanted the same Indian Constitution for Srilanka.. Even some leaders proposed a Federal setup with india.. Had this accepted at that time much of bloodshed wasted now can be avoided..
So instead of eradicting the root cause you couldn't solve the problems... when singalese actually allow Tamils enjoy the equal staus, amended the constitution, make it multi-polar secular state, Gun culture will vanish there...
Otherwise, instead of held in camps, the three lahk Tamils , should be shoot and killed so this is the last wish for them..
The youngmen has the quick and painless excution..They are the fortunate.. but the camp people didn't..believe me they are not my imagination.. they are real,,,
Thanks for your comments

 

[Nishant]

Source? Can you post your source where International Forum has accepted the video as authentic? Even the news agency that is posting the video is claiming that they are not sure about the authenticity of the video...you on the other hand are damn sure about this "First Rated" stuffWhy? Have you never heard of Civil Wars? This is Civil War. What else do you think it is? Sri Lankan government was not waging the war; rather it was just fighting the Civil War against goons who wanted to break the country into pieces.If you want to gain respect and credibility by dropping your age into the discussion then you won't succeed but I am surprised to note you mentioning "srilanka problems" rather than "Tamil Problems" because the propaganda that follows in your post just shows as though all the problems in this world are with Tamils. That is it...zip...period!!!I don't think I need to answer to that.You know that is the exact same reason given by almost all of the terrorist groups?
Punjab Terrorism: Khalistanis can't live with Indians
Kashmir Terrorism: Kashmiri Muslims can't live with Indians
Bodoland Terrorism: Bodo Ethnic people can't live with Indians
Nagalnd Terrorism: Naga people can't live with Indians
Mizoram Terrorism: Mizo ethnic people can't live with Indians
Manipur Terrorism: Manipur tribal people can't live with Indians
Naxals/PWG/ULFA/Maoists can't live with Indians.

They all give same excuses for their terrorism as well. "It is not terrorism...it is Freedom Struggle". What should India do? Not wage war on these so-called citizens and let all of these "Freedom Fighters" make their own countries? Now, wouldn't that be an amazing solution?That is why Eelams bought tons of Kalashnikovs, Tanks and even Air Planes? So it doesn't kill them?

IMHO stop the propaganda. Every country has problems but it doesn't mean that its citizens take Guns/Tanks/Air Force in their hands and kill other citizens. That is what terrorists do...and if they do that...they should be treated in ways that are apt for such people.

very nice reply brother..

i dont understand one thing...
hindus are not treated well in pakistan, bangladesh, fiji, etc..
but no one from india care. in fact this is right... why should be care of other
country's people?

I just want to ask this to tamil ppl that why they so much care about ppl of sri-lanka? be it tamil or anyone in srilanka? ..

i hear that (although i have nothing to prove it) loads of donation goes to LTTE from tamil nadu.. why? please donate to PM relief fund.. dont care about problems in other countries ... we have enough in india.

 

[vista__n00b]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

2)The very fact equated the 'punjab,kashmirproblems with Eelam ' has exposed how immature your argument is...India is a true Democratic Republic country..which has the longest written Constitution..(Don't argue it'as a Indian propaganda) but where as Srilanka 's Unitary..does't give equal rights..)
We Indian take the pride as 'Unity in diversity' But Srilanka is only for Singalese Majority

Do you have any quotes from Sri Lankan Constitution (with proper source) to back your claims? Can you please quote the stanzas from Sri Lankan constitution saying that a tamil citizen should not be given a right of vote / speech / religion while a sinhalese has all of these? Kindly quote those stanzas and "Expose my immature argument".

You mentioned Kashmir and punjab..actually sympatehsied with your inability to grab the reasons because you are out of that time ZONE Where I was watched that event.. that is the reason for mentioning the age..

Oh same old Age, Zone, Sympathy card. Honestly...I am getting bored of it. So its better if you bring something new next time.

Kashmir was never the Internal Problem after the Nehru- Sheik Abdullah accord, only Pakistan was pissed the matter as annual routine its Islamic forum and occassionally with its USA Friends..After Sheikh his Son Farooq Abdullah has tiff with Indira Gandhi which led to his downfall with Indira Gandhi probe G.M Shah the brother-in law by dividing the National Conference..Thus the poilitical meddling in the state led to pak based groups activated...rest is History same in Punjab.. to spit on Akali leadership Indira Gandhi created 'Bhindranwale' and congress support him.. Then he turn in to monster..so in India the problems is not with our Constitution but actual meddling of politician led to fall of stable GOVT in that states led to anarchy..

All those things you said can also be said about Sri Lanka as well...just because Sri Lankan government didn't bow to some Tamil Political Goons...they started terrorising the whole country. You haven't shown any proofs as yet to authenticate your claims regarding inequality of rights in Sri Lankan "Constitution"...or do we just have to believe that what you are saying is true? Show us some quotes from Sri Lankan constitution or else stop harping on the rights point. It just doesn't hold ground. Oh and just to save you from hassle of finding good source...here is the link to official online version of Sri Lankan Constitution
*www.priu.gov.lk/Cons/1978Constitution/Introduction.htm
BTW you didn't comment about other terrorist groups from India that I talked about.

...when singalese actually allow Tamils enjoy the equal staus, amended the constitution, make it multi-polar secular state, Gun culture will vanish there...

Source...source...source...

Otherwise, instead of held in camps, the three lahk Tamils , should be shoot and killed so this is the last wish for them..
The youngmen has the quick and painless excution..They are the fortunate.. but the camp people didn't..believe me they are not my imagination.. they are real,,,
Thanks for your comments

Similar propaganda is taught to terrorists of Khalistanis, LeT, JeM, SIMI, Bodos, NSCN, KYKL, MNF, Naxals, PWG, ULFA, Maoists...just to keep the hate going.

 

[vista__n00b]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

very nice reply brother..

Sister

 

[Nishant]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

Sister

sorry miss...

see the problem is i have enough sisters and no girlfriend..! so please!! i dont want another sister

 

[vaithy]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

i dont understand one thing...
hindus are not treated well in pakistan, bangladesh, fiji, etc..
but no one from india care. in fact this is right... why should be care of other
country's people?

It is called cultural ties..
So why Islamic countries are trying to intervene in India's affairs when communal violence taken place.. So why USA is poking the nose because some minor incident against Chiristians...Nobody has told that countries that it is India's internal matter... But India never raised it voice whether it is Fiji or Srilanka when Hindus are murdered, their temples have been demolished.. For Hindus no country existed.. why Jinnah ask for Pakistan? "Hindu can have Hindustan..we have Pakistan.." What did our congress did then.. it followed psedo secularism where even speaking about'Hindu' taboo for them..Why India created the Bangaladesh?.In east Timur india supported the tiny island to be partitioned..In palestian India's support is well known..Indeed Hamas is not a Gandhian party neither Fateh...Nobody told they are other nations problems..

@vista__noob
Although it mentioned it is socialist Republic Under chapter 2 Buddhism is the only religion that accorded the protected status other are secondary...Secular nature of the constition was altered because singalese are majority..the state is not ruled by the parliament but from the 'MahaBothi' seat..there is no relevence with "Buddha dharma" among the present day singalese Buddhist.. previous Senanayke and Bandaranayake agreements were not effected because of their hatred...(O.K..O.K I am now going to hear the thousandth time.."propagandaa...)
Tamils never hate anyone...hear what one poet saying
"EveryPlace is our Native,
EveryPerson is our Relative,
Good or Bad Don't blame other..
..Greatness comewith obedient to ...." -actually I forget the rest of stanza
When the British come, they need slave labours for their tea gardens,sugar fields shipped them out...like negroes whose ancesters taken from Africa to America after a hundreds year, they admitted to the society as equal citizen... but for the Tamils no Godfather.. no Abraham Lincon...
Poet Bharathi,
" In the Sugar-cane fields--Oh in the Sugarcane fields
Hindu Mada(r)has sewed with the iron chains-
Broken with the limping joints-they are crying and praying Oh
Mata SAKTHI..couldnot you listen to them?
could not You save them from their misery?-
This poem was made before a hundred years..it is still hold good..

("yes.. Yes... You old cow.. did I ask for sonnet for the terrorists? Hey they are the terrorists and all your poets are terrorists..WHERE IS ANSWER..word by word")
OH this is for U vista__noob.. so you need not type again..
Thanks for the comments

 

[nix]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

I'm shocked that even educated people in a certain part of india are sympathising with the LTTE. They have no right to demand any piece of land from sri lanka. The LTTE would never succeed in making a country, they didn't have a chance. They knew it.

@vista_noob: +1.

 

[vista__n00b]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

@vista__noob
Although it mentioned it is socialist Republic Under chapter 2 Buddhism is the only religion that accorded the protected status other are secondary...Secular nature of the constition was altered because singalese are majority..

Your arguments are so ridiculous that it is not even funny anymore...
Here is what the constitution says...word by word...

9. The Republic of Sri Lanka shall give to Buddhism the foremost place and accordingly it shall be the duty of the State to protect and foster the Buddha Sasana, while assuring to all religions the rights granted by Articles 10 and 14(1)(e).

...and what are Articles 10 and 14(1)(e)?...

10. Every person is entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including the freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.

14. (1) Every citizen is entitled to -
(e) the freedom, either by himself or in association with others, and either in public or in private, to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching;​

No where does it say that only Buddhism will be allowed in Sri Lanka. And if a country wants to protect the religion followed by 70% or so of its population...then what is wrong with it? Its not like they are stopping anyone to follow their religion.

BTW the question was never about Buddhism vs other religions...it was always about Tamils. Or are you trying to say that none of the Tamils follow Buddhism because honestly that idea would be preposterous. I am still waiting for the stanzas from Constitution that doesn't give equal rights to Tamils but then may be your "Propaganda Gurus" never showed you those stanzas? They just told you...this is how it is and you believed them. Isn't it?

the state is not ruled by the parliament but from the 'MahaBothi' seat

ROFLMAO!!! I am not even going to answer to that. A country with established democracy and voting system is not run by its Parliament. Nice one

...Poor translation of a poem
...
More stuff from probably LTTE text
...
Another poor translation of a poem...

You are telling us that we should all support LTTE in killing Sri Lankan citizens because they had rough times. Why am I not hearing this for the first time. I would once again say...Khalistanis, LeT, JeM, SIMI, Bodos, NSCN, KYKL, MNF, Naxals, PWG, ULFA, Maoists.

("yes.. Yes... You old cow.. did I ask for sonnet for the terrorists? Hey they are the terrorists and all your poets are terrorists..WHERE IS ANSWER..word by word")
OH this is for U vista__noob.. so you need not type again..
Thanks for the comments

Even at this age you can't argue with facts huh? Did I ever say that poets are terrorists or that Tamils didn't suffer or that people around the world are not suffering? Yes they are suffering...yes the races have suffered in the past and (god forbids) might keep suffering in future as well. We can all come together and work for their betterment but if that has to come by using ammunitions and by killing innocent people...then I am not ready to support it.

 

[vaithy]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

I'm shocked that even educated people in a certain part of india are sympathising with the LTTE. They have no right to demand any piece of land from sri lanka. The LTTE would never succeed in making a country, they didn't have a chance. They knew it.

@vista_noob: +1.

Can I not have the right to say the same words."I'm shocked that even educated people in a certain part of india are sympathising with the killing of the innocents civilians in the guise of terrorism"

@vista__noob.& unix..is it not possible attributing personal motives to continue the discussion..
Did I ever says that I supported LTTE? Read the whole postings again..The whole posting arise because of extra judicial killings appear in the news channel.. So every events has the two sides..
You are in the north and I am in the south...What You see from the north I may not able to see from the south.. what I see from the south you may not able to see from the North
Discussions in such forums can bridge that divide..
Since the Video was obtained by the Journalists for Demogracy in srilanka (JDS) a organisation of both Tamil and Singalese journalists NGO organisation which work for the media freedom,it led to credence to Channel4 which published broadcast it..
Naturally singalese GOVT denied it..HItler never admit that he exterminate the JEWS.. and even today some sections beleive 'Holocaust never happened..
If they are actually LTTE cadres then they could be tried them in War Tribunals.. the best course is Srilanka 's Court can probe it but it remained to be seen whether the regime allow the court probe?
My assumptions is based on the Video may be genuine where as your assumption is other wise
I'llbe happy if your assumptions is correct..because from your assumptions nobody lose lives!!
Thanks for your comments

 

[Nishant]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

It is called cultural ties..

may be thats why i hate LTTE coz they killed my PM.

So why Islamic countries are trying to intervene in India's affairs when communal violence taken place.. So why USA is poking the nose because some minor incident against Chiristians...Nobody has told that countries that it is India's internal matter...

here is the point... its USA and not state of Alaska ppl. Similarly its India who should decide what to do.. not the state of Tamil nadu.

But India never raised it voice whether it is Fiji or Srilanka when Hindus are murdered, their temples have been demolished..

India has too many other things to worry about than these, and ofcourse india dont have the power like USA to do it... but if remember correctly.. at least india condemned when things go wrong in fiji or australia ..


now coming back to LTTE.. lets suppose sri lankan ppl treated tamils very badly.. but LTTE did the same thing to them...their suicide bombers has claimed the life of thousands of sri lankan ppl, secondly most of the world (except our tamil nadu state) has declared LTTE as a terrorist organization... and i dont think the whole world is stupid.

 

[solomon_paulraj]

now coming back to LTTE.. lets suppose sri lankan ppl treated tamils very badly.. but LTTE did the same thing to them...their suicide bombers has claimed the life of thousands of sri lankan ppl, secondly most of the world (except our tamil nadu state) has declared LTTE as a terrorist organization... and i dont think the whole world is stupid.

^^
Everything which has been accepted is not correct
and everything which has not been accepted in not wrong!
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Can I not have the right to say the same words.
@vista__noob.& unix..is it not possible attributing personal motives to continue the discussion..

You are in the north and I am in the south...What You see from the north I may not able to see from the south.. what I see from the south you may not able to see from the North

Discussions in such forums can bridge that divide..

+1..for you sir.

 

[vista__n00b]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

Did I ever says that I supported LTTE? Read the whole postings again..

In almost every post of yours, you are vehemently supporting the so-called "armed struggle" (read terrorism) by Tamils in Sri Lanka by telling us how badly they were treated and how they deserve to be given a separate country. AFAIK its only LTTE that is working towards realism of the horrendous idea. So how wrong are we in understanding from your posts that you support LTTE? Or are you saying that you support the whole idea (Armed struggle...Eelam) but do not support LTTE? You want a new organization?

The whole posting arise because of extra judicial killings appear in the news channel..So every events has the two sides..

The thread started because of a killing appearing on a news channel but the debate started because a few of you were NOT ready to see that it could actually have any other side to it but a Tamil being shot by oh-so-inhuman Sri Lankan soldiers. You were the adamant one not to see any other side. Its good to see a softening of stand from you and ACCEPTING that the video could actually have other facets.

Since the Video was obtained by the Journalists for Demogracy in srilanka (JDS) a organisation of both Tamil and Singalese journalists NGO organisation which work for the media freedom,it led to credence to Channel4 which published broadcast it..

...and we are back to square one! Another claim with no factual backing. All I could find about JDS on internet is this one blog
*jdsrilanka.blogspot.com/
No where does it say that JDS is an organisation...nor does it talk about any NGOs either. All it tells about them is this

Journalists for Democracy in Sri Lanka (JDS) is an action group of journalists, writers, artists and human rights defenders in exile who are campaigning for democracy, human rights and media freedom in Sri Lanka.

I wonder how you know who all are involved in this group while claiming in such a matter-of-fact way about their organization structure and being NGO & stuff. Seriously my dear sir...you really should check your facts before you put them on table.
Considering the vastness & sophistication of LTTE as an organisation...this JDS could very well be a group of news manufacturers for them.

If they are actually LTTE cadres then they could be tried them in War Tribunals..

But how do we know that the person being shot is not a Sri Lankan soldier or a civilian while the one shooting them is not a LTTE terrorist? Where is the question of War Tribunals then?

the best course is Srilanka 's Court can probe it but it remained to be seen whether the regime allow the court probe?

Court probe? Didn't you in your earlier posts claim that everything in Sri Lanka was against Tamils? How are you expecting a fair court probe now? The judges doing the probe might very well be Sinhalese after all? The ones who bow before Mahabothi Seat and take orders from them. Or may be for this probe we should find (or appoint may be) some Catholic Tamil Judges who are completely against Buddhism and Sinhalese people & support the idea of Eelam to the core. Now that would be an idea...hmm...

My assumptions is based on the Video may be genuine where as your assumption is other wise I'llbe happy if your assumptions is correct..because from your assumptions nobody lose lives!!

Wow! So if I say that the person dying in the video could very well be a Sri Lankan soldier or a civilian shot by a terrorist...then it doesn't mean anything? No one loses life in that video because he is not Tamil? According to you the life of a Sri Lankan soldier or a civilian means nothing?

 

[vaithy]

Re: Naked, bound and shot: how ‘Tamil rebel’ was killed by Sri Lankan soldier

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In almost every post of yours, you are vehemently supporting the so-called "armed struggle" (read terrorism) by Tamils i

That's the point!! All along whole of the discussion, my assumption is that your hatred is only against LTTE (which I can Understand) But I never understand that actually you clubbed whole of the Tamils Race with them...
Perhaps you attended in your Logic class..
Statement 1. LTTE is a Terrorists
Statement 2 LTTE is Tamilians

Conclusion: So all Tamils are Terrorists

Now I understand why You vehemently condemned the 3 lahks Tamils to slow death inside the camps...

The Photos are from BBC news


*newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46186000/jpg/_46186118_camp_ap226b.jpg *admin.bytecom.co.uk/tamilnewsnetwork.com/image.axd?picture=2009/06/WindowsLiveWriter/TamilslanguishinginSriLankanDeathCampsRi_7603/s320x240_e548d515-59c8-48ac-8f0e-b520bba7dc95.jpg

See the above picture from the infamous IDP camp..Location Srilanka.Time current

*admin.bytecom.co.uk/tamilnewsnetwork.com/image.axd?picture=2009/06/WindowsLiveWriter/TamilslanguishinginSriLankanDeathCampsRi_7603/0001zffg_b20a6602-47df-46e8-a77b-83387c95c2e5.jpg
Location Auschwitz extermination camps
jewish children behind Barbed wires time 1945

Two different time stamp..same faces same pictures.. and same result?

*i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/11/article-1180055-04E26E00000005DC-475_468x354.jpg

I was careful not to post this photos previously..,because anyone intelligent as you, if you want to see it is not to difficult too search the news portal repository..

"I strongly believe that this country belongs to the Sinhalese”
General Sarath Fonseka, Commander of the Sri Lanka Army

_ So what happened to Tamils there.. whether India accept them? or they have to jump to Sea..
*news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/08/south_asia_fleeing_sri_lanka_war/html/1.stm


**newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46186000/jpg/_46186118_camp_ap226b.jpg