MediaTek announces first true octa-core processor

Nerevarine

Incarnate
LG L7II was dissapointing, cortex a5 again, Sammy Galaxy core and grand quad are both cortex a5s as well ..
Its so sad because the same processor (dual core one) is available for 7k phones (like Huawei y300)..
if only they start adopting mediatek lol

I only took umbrage against MTK being put in the same category as AMD. MTK sure gives customers more choice, so power to them. Peace

And how am I wrong, might I ask ? AMD provides better performance per price than intel .. So does Mediatek as compared to qualcomm :?:

also, I wonder how well SGX 6xx series GPU perform against Adreno 3XX series
 

Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
LG L7II was dissapointing, cortex a5 again, Sammy Galaxy core and grand quad are both cortex a5s as well ..
Its so sad because the same processor (dual core one) is available for 7k phones (like Huawei y300)..
if only they start adopting mediatek lol



And how am I wrong, might I ask ? AMD provides better performance per price than intel .. So does Mediatek as compared to qualcomm :?:
QA my friend. All those silicones we buy don't even cost half that much to produce anyway.

also, I wonder how well SGX 6xx series GPU perform against Adreno 3XX series
More benchmarks...
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Dunno why people are bashing Mediatek? Afterall, all they're doing is using ARM's core design? Bash the SoC, not the company!

Repeating some Captain Obvious stuff:

In the ARM SoC world, people license Intellectual Property (IP) from ARM. Sometimes people license the whole core design from ARM and then they put it in their SoC. That's what TI, Samsung and Mediatek do.

Cortex A7, A9 and A15 are ARM designed cores. They license it from ARM and then simply put it in their SoC. In the case of this SoC, Mediatek is licensing Cortex A7 (because it's cheaper) and this core is an ARM design. Not Mediatek's. Though it is even slower than Cortex A9.

Next - Qualcomm actually licenses a bigger thing. They have such a license that they can make their own core designs with the same instruction set. That's what Scorpion, Krait et cetera are.

Next - in the ARM SoC world, people are also licensing the GPU from the third party, example PowerVR series from Imagination Technologies. Mali series of GPUs is licensed by ARM. Samsung was using it for SGS2 and SGS3. Galaxy Nexus had a TI chipset which had PowerVR SGX540. Qualcomm makes their own GPU - Adreno. Adreno was made by AMD earlier (jumble and you'll get Radeon). They sold to Qualcomm (bad decision) and mobile market exploded.

So basically an SoC developer makes a dish by getting readymade ingredients from everywhere else.

Bashing Mediatek is okay - but bash for the right reason. They're choosing Cortex A7 for this octa-core SoC - which is slow but it is a core design by ARM. ;)

aaaaaand they're perfectly capable of putting Cortex A15 in their new SoCs - all they'll have to do is just license it from ARM - then they'll be world class? That's how SoC world is.

Some day they might put the highest core design from ARM in their SoC - but for them it makes no sense because the big phone manufacturers won't use it. So their bread and butter is - putting their SoCs in desi/Chinese phones. Good strategy and it makes them easy money. ;)

Look into the other factors as well - Cortex A15 license will cost a bomb. Mediatek can't afford. If they even get it, will they actually sell enough phones to recover the amount? They rely on low-end desi/Chinese. If they'll start putting A15 in those phones, their margins will be low and these phones don't sell a whole lot. They won't recover money.

tl;dr - Bash the SoC. Not the company.

About battery draining issues even high end phones struggle to for a day with normal usage, a Quad core Mediatek can last even a day and half considering its price and performance.
yup.

Cortex A7 is power efficient.

I already mentioned this in one of my post and for sure MTK will never be at par with it's competitor.
They can easily get par. lol. Just license the damned A15. Eaaaaassssyyyyyyyyyyy.

And the very reason no company with good international standing uses MTK proccys is their poor build quality which would far outweigh that VFM factor.
Mediatek doesn't fabricate/manufacture their processors. TSMC does. Also, AMD and nVidia don't fabricate their GPUs as well. TSMC fabs them. Same company.

Even Qualcomm doesn't fab their SoCs. TSMC does. ;)

Nothing is even wrong with the "build quality" of Mediatek SoCs. Afterall, there are very few fabrication companies and all are well specialised.

Build quality of the phones using Mediatek SoCs? Then you have a point. :)
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
btw, give me a cheap development board with this SoC - like Raspberry Pi. I'll be the first one to buy.
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
ASUS MeMO Pad HD7 is gonna be using MediaTek MT8125
Read the full article here
AnandTech | ASUS MeMO Pad HD7 Review: $149 Nexus 7.1 Successor & Our First Look at MediaTek's MT8125
Id say for a $129/$149 tablet, this is superb, especially coming from a company like ASUS
MediaTek, a Taiwanese based fabless semiconductor manufacturer, is one of a number of ARM licensees that are presently giving Qualcomm (and other mobile SoC vendors) a hard time. They tend to take vanilla ARM (and 3rd party) IP, integrate it, and sell it for much less than the ARM licensees we're used to covering. Just as ARM's licensees are putting incredible pressure on Intel's margins in client computing, MediaTek is doing the same to the bigger ARM licensees.

Last year MediaTek shipped just under 1.7 billion chips. Granted that's across all markets that it serves (including APs, WiFi, GPS, DVD/BD player chipsets, etc…), but it's still tremendous volume.

If you look at any of the sub-$150 Android tablets these days, they all integrate some form of ultra low cost silicon. In large, cost-sensitive markets (e.g. China), MediaTek's presence is extremely high.
 

quagmire

Allllright !
^The GPU is PowerVR SGX 544MP1. Oh god why :banghead:

I'm game if Asus retains the price and slaps in a PowerVR series6 GPU.
 
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ZTR

ZTR

Cyborg Agent
Review of ASUS MeMO Pad HD7 and Mediatek MT8125

AnandTech | ASUS MeMO Pad HD7 Review: $149 Nexus 7.1 Successor & Our First Look at MediaTek's MT8125

All in all the GPU is good enough to play games and the CPU is also powerful enough to hold its own
 

ankush28

Bazinga
even if its octacore how can we tell that it'll perform better then existing quad cores huh!!! like FX 8350 is octacore & i7-4770 is quod core ao does it mean i7 is inferier !!! not at all... Comparing i3-3220(a dualcore, 55W TDP, ~6.7k) and FX 6300(a hexacore, 95W TDP, ~7.3)... i3-3220 give a very tough competetion to FX 6300, i3-3220 is only behind in OC potential... (see the anandtech benchmarks). PS:- I ain't comparing MTK & Quallcomm as amd & intel.
 
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ZTR

ZTR

Cyborg Agent
The OctaCore MT6592 gets benched on Antutu and scores an impressive 25.4k :-o

???MT6592??? - ??,MT6592,,?? - IT?
 
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