MAC OS X - Truth Revealed

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gxsaurav

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Posting flaws in an OS actully helps the developers in making it better. Isn't that what beta testing is for. Well, I guess atleast Mac developers know how much we miss a cut feature in Mac. Who knows maybe after 5 years of relesing MacOS X they will finally add this basic feature.
 

Kiran.dks

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gx_saurav said:
Posting flaws in an OS actully helps the developers in making it better. Isn't that what beta testing is for. Well, I guess atleast Mac developers know how much we miss a cut feature in Mac. Who knows maybe after 5 years of relesing MacOS X they will finally add this basic feature.

They will refrain from doing it and instead say that cutting is not allowed as it's one of the core security feature to avoid loosing data due to inefficient copying! :))
 

gxsaurav

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blackpearl said:
I guess there is no option to submit error report in a Mac, 'coz mac users don't believe there can be errors. :))

lolz...there are errors indeed, but just like some macboys say "Whats the point of talking about a security bug :-", talking just makes it popular. So if there is a bug then keep quite about it & fix it. This way people will never know about the bug & Apple will sale there products"

They will refrain from doing it and instead say that cutting is not allowed as it's one of the core security feature to avoid loosing data due to inefficient copying! :))

ROFL dude..:)).

I just can't believe the level of jealousy & anger in arya's post. I mean, comon....I am using an OS & pointing out the flaws, whats wrong in that? Didn't he do the same when he was using Windows Vista ? Did we got angry & told him "Vista sux uninstall it"
 
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iMav

iMav

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linux and macs have to understand a simple thing ... windows is numero uno coz it is better than both coz of the features it provides and most of windows users are not cia, kgb, raw agents who require their machine to be absolutely secure running on 2048 bit ssl encrytion .... they will achieve nothing by hi-jacking threads and claiming that windows sux ... the fact is those posts give us an oppurtunity to tell others that windows is infact better in more ways than 1 and this thread also goes on to show the same

mac os x is the best implementation of the unix platform (undoubtedly) and it has some major basic flaws which are quite evident within 2 days of using it so well cant help it read my siggy :D

another problem in the mac is that u cnnot hide file extensions for even applications that the OS knows how to open/run for example my sify dialler works fine but the extension .jar cannot be hidden
 
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goobimama

 Macboy
This thread is a joke and should be merged with that joke thread that going on in the chit chat section....
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
OK, I'd thought I would just ignore this thread because everyone knows how baised the unbaised reviewers in this thread are. But apparently, the other users on this forum are just as stupid as the initiators of this thread.

You guys are acting like you are out here genuinely pointing out the pros and cons of the operating system. Well, I see none of the hundreds of things that Mac OS X does a lot better than Windows or that Windows does not do at all in this thread.

And the cons. You guys, after all your research, have come up with exactly two problems:
1. No option to cut and paste files between drives.
2. iTunes does not support WMA.

The first one is a genuine flaw and it is widely accepted. It will most probably be fixed in Leopard but anyway, it is a flaw. Point noted.
The second one is simple crap. No one expects iTunes and iPod to play WMA files and Apple will not give you this functionality. The 'DOC' format is a standard for documents so Mac OS X supports it. Windows Media formats are not the standard. AFAIK, they are used only for pornographic files. Windows Media Player does not play M4A files either and no one expects it too.
Oh, and BTW, there are media players on Mac OS X that do play Windows Media formats, starting with Windows Media Player itself. But if gx_saurav expects to rely on me for doing a basic search on MacUpdate, he'll be waiting forever because that aint gonna happen.


So, anyway, I challenge you (iMav and gx_saurav). Spend one week with the OS and then post every single flaw you come across in it. Post them pointwise, no matter how small they are. Let us see the best you can do. And then I'll do some myth-busting. Let's get started.

I know things will get rough so I'm starting a new thread in the Fight Club forum.
 
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iMav

iMav

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@arya dude looks like u jumped directly to this page and missed the rest of the points ;) go thru the first page also theres a point by point brief of some flaws ;)

@goobi actuallly the thread is not a joke but the posts are quite funny considering the fact that the so called best OS has some serious basics gone wrong
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
goobimama said:
This thread is a joke and should be merged with that joke thread that going on in the chit chat section....
Exactly. I'm hoping goobimama will later assist me in some of that myth-busting with his excellent sense of humour.
 
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iMav

iMav

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aryayush said:
You guys are acting like you are out here genuinely pointing out the pros and cons of the operating system. Well, I see none of the hundreds of things that Mac OS X does a lot better than Windows or that Windows does not do at all in this thread.
no 1 has reprimanded u from posting the goods if we hv missed some ... as i said there are only a handful some of which i hav spoken of

myth busting well the first 2 pages are myth busters enough coz these are facts that u, goobi, nep, & andy hav hidden and u still claimed that ur OS is the best
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Things start going downhill from your second point itself. It is wrong. The option is there in Mac OS X and it is more advanced than it is in Windows. But I won't point it out now.

I'm giving you time. Do your research. Try to make sure you don't post stupid points such as your second one. I want to give you a chance not to make a fool of yourself (but which I know you inevitably will).

Are you up to the challenge or not?
 

gxsaurav

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This thread is a joke and should be merged with that joke thread that going on in the chit chat section....
You can say that, pointing out the flaws of a so called Unflawed OS is indeed a joke right

OK, I'd thought I would just ignore this thread because everyone knows how biased the unbiased reviewers in this thread are.
What biased Did we pointed out something wrong, tell us if we did, we will fix the wrong post here.

Or is it that you just don't like accepting that MacOS has flaws.

The second one is simple crap. No one expects iTunes and iPod to play WMA files and Apple will not give you this functionality.
Oh, and BTW, there are media players on Mac OS X that do play Windows Media formats, starting with Windows Media Player itself
Did you read the previous post or just jumped to this post? Even I mentioned that QuickTime plays wma & wmv with Flip4Mac & iTunes uses QuickTime engine (that’s knows to all users), so why can't iTunes play wma or flac or ape or ogg? When most of them can be played fine in QuickTime. iTunes is a music player application for MacOS X, so shouldn't it support all music formats out there? Well if it doesn't & only support 2 formats then any sane computer user will say it sux.

So, anyway, I challenge you (iMav and gx_saurav). Spend one week with the OS and then post every single flaw you come across in it. Post them pointwise, no matter how small they are. Let us see the best you can do. And then I'll do some myth-busting. Let's get started.
nah, I don't stay at the Apple store whole day to find flaws, I got many other things to do so u can keep the challenge to yourself. About using the OS for a week, dude I am already using it since 5 years & I m roaming around the Apple store from the last 5 days. Only kids can chalange on forums :D

I know things will get rough so I'm starting a new thread in the Fight Club forum.
Don't know about iMav but I will only post flaws no flame wars :)


imav said:
2. As in windows If u right click on a file and select another application to open it and select it to be set as default same is not the case in MAC ... here if u choose another application for a file it will be only for that file and not the file type
Can we really set to open all files with that particualr application in Mac? Tell us how...you are a 8 months old mac user so help us. If you got good points to post then do so, we are not stoping you from pointing those things which are better then Windows, cos that is the thing which makes Mac better, right.
 
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iMav

iMav

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gx ur siggy is incomplete .... u forgot mac :lol: and iv also been posting the good and bad now its not my fault tht there is more bad than good :)
 

gxsaurav

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@iMav

Mac doesn't makes me fat man, I m trying to diet u know :p

(had a pastry in morning, couldn't resist didi's home made cake :drool)
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Forget the good. That's my department. Just post all the negative points in one thread and number them. If I start replying in this thread, my post will get buried here and then some days later, you guys will again start singing about the same negative points which I have already cleared. It happens all the time.

So just post all the flaws serially in that Fight Club thread.

Or wait. I guess you guys have only managed to come up with the two problems I mentioned and therefore, don't want to take me up on the challenge...
 
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iMav

iMav

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aaj tak breaking news:

arya ne challenge diya ab dekhna hai ki baki members kli kya pratikriya hai :D
 

gxsaurav

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Braking news : Windows users do not give a damn about challenges of macboys on an internet forum. :D.

We are neutral & not loyal to a brand. If we like something in Windows we praise it, if we like something in Mac we also praise it. If we don't like something in Mac & Windows we hate it. Simple

By the way arya, where is the option to change UI colours in MacOS X? I just found 2 Aqua & Graphite, but thats not what I want. i want to change that white color toolbar to blue cell shaded or black, can I do that within MacOS ?

I know about shapeshifter but thats a 3rd party application which is paid. Sorry I don't have enough money for that. Tell me if there is such feature in Mac itself.
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Just as a teaser for what is to come, all of these points are crap:
iMav said:
2. As in windows If u right click on a file and select another application to open it and select it to be set as default same is not the case in MAC ... here if u choose another application for a file it will be only for that file and not the file type

3. If u load ntfs drives they are loaded as connected servers (im still unable to make them writtable)

4. Dashboard & Expose are useful .... however at times i would say a sidebar for gadgets is better coz then i dont need to load another 'desktop' for accessing my gadgets

6. it also has a similar to aero effect ... ur menus are transparet

1) There is no Full Window concept. When you try to maximize a Windows it zooms to the size of content in it. This results in you having a lot of Windows on screen. Technically speaking this increases the load on Video frame buffer or Video memory. Mac UI is palate based, like in Photoshop there are 3 palates. Viewport, Toolbox & layers/history etc. To get an idea of how the plated UI of Mac is, try GIMP on Windows. It really hinders the usability, cos now Photoshop has 3 Windows, & all are separate entities. Just minimizing the viewport will not minimize Photoshop.

2) Dock shows all you frequent applications, but what about less frequent ones? There is no "Other apps" thing. The best way I was able to manage is to make a new folder "Applications" & put the shortcuts of non-frequent apps in it. Now to start these apps first click on the dock to open this folder & then the apps. This could have been solved if there was a Menu kind of option in dock

3) Non-Standard keyboard shortcuts.

5) WMA's doesn't play in iTunes, nothing does. Just mp3 & AAC. Despite of using aac it doesn't sync with my K750i.

6) Also there is no PIM. I do not have access to outlook/office on Mac, & m seriously missing it. There are 3 seperate application such as Mail, Calender & Address book.

and if u try to drag ur applications folder to the dock ... it gets deleted

Mav , to add applications to the dock , you have to run them , then when they're running you have to right-click em n then select add to dock . whew , wuite an excersise just to add a shorcut to dock

There is also another reason. On a Mac, what u see is what u get (in colour). However with Windows XP the ability to use your own color profile system wide on any monitor took away this novelty of Mac

Mac has bluetooth device onboard in the hardware, means no more using USB bluetooth stick. However file transfer using bluetooth is slow. My data cable of K750i isn't working to sync things thogh the memory card is visible. Vista does the same using bluetooth but only if you have a Windows mobile device.

3) Doesn't comes with a messenger client which works with all protocalls out there (I mean to say adium which is free)

All of these are crap. They are wrong.

Which leaves these genuine complaints:
1. No way to cut and paste between two drives.
2. Grab does not have advanced options for screen captures.
3. The UI is not very customisable by default.

Three people slaving day and night to come up with flaws and the best they can do is three...
 

gxsaurav

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No people is working day & night. MacOS isn't that important anyway.....

& about those points being crap. Well...will you post why?
 
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