Is this A hardware problem?

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malay.keshav

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The problem started a few days back. i started getting BSOD randomly on my Windows Vista Home Basic after a fresh a instal and a day of updating from the windows update. The updates failed to install most of the times, but eventually after a few tries it worked. Except for the SP2. i tried installing it once , but failed. and the BSODs started. Even after a system restore,it didnt work. So i tried installing it again, and the OS got stuck in an infinite loop of restart-> reverting update changes -> restart -> and so on.
so i tried to startup repair and the safe mode, both failed.
After hrs of try, i did a clean format, and tried installing Windows 7 Enterprise edition trial from the digit DVD.
But in every install i am facing a BSOD, each with different error.
sometimes MEMORY_MANAGEMENT, some times PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA , and odr times just a BSOD.
Even after smhow once it would install, wen the OS boots for the first time , i have a BSOD just before the welcome screen.
I tried My friends Windows 7 disc (Ultimate), and the same problem.
At times the DVD wouldnt boot saying "NDIS.sys" not found.
I thought the problem might have been the RAM or my graphics card so i removed them both, and replaced my ram sticks with my older ones. Still the problem continues. (Exccept its a lot slower thanks to less ram and no GFX card D: )
Is all hope really lost ? :S
PLZ HELP

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This time i got CHACHE_MANAGER bsod.
 
Cool Buddy

Cool Buddy

Wise Old Owl
is it possible for you to try to install it from a different DVD writer or a pen drive? Doesn't seem to be a hard disk problem. Try using a live CD (Like linux or Hiren boot CD) and see what happens.
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Zip the last 5 memory dumps, and upload them here. They should be at:C:\Windows\Minidump.

Sort them by date modified, and pick 5 most new. Also, please tell us your complete system configuration.
 
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malay.keshav

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@Cool Buddy
I tried Using Hiren Boot CD.
Everything looked normal there.I tried repartitioning, Full Format . But nothing. Still Getting The same errors.

@Asigh
I formatted the Hard Disk during the Windows Installation. So the Dump files are lost.

Now i have also run Windows Memory Diagnostic Test and received 30,000 LRAND errors.(WMD From the Hiren Boot CD).

Also Now, None of the Boot CDs r working. Not Windows, Linux or anything :S

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My System Config is As follows ::
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13 GHZ (4 MB L2 Cache)
(512 x 2 + 2048 x 1) MB DDRII Ram
Geforce 8800 GT 512 Mb
160 GB Samsung HDD
Targan 500W PSU

Its a Dell Dimension E050, but sadly way past its warranty period.

Also in the Memory Diagnostic Test, All the tests are passed except for the LRAND.

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Cool Buddy said:
is it possible for you to try to install it from a different DVD writer or a pen drive? Doesn't seem to be a hard disk problem. Try using a live CD (Like linux or Hiren boot CD) and see what happens.
Click to expand...

And Yes. i did try installing using a USB.

But now even the Boot is failing. 3 out of 5 times, Hiren or Windows Boot Fails.
And even if it does, Most of the tools dont work. :\

Is it really the RAM? Or my motherboard? or the PSU ?
The PSU is the newest hardware to be installed about 6 months ago.
 
pulsar_swift

pulsar_swift

Youngling
Try replacing your DVD ROM. If it doesn't work, your HDD has gone KAPUT.As you said you replaced the RAM and it still dint work.
 
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malay.keshav

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pulsar_swift said:
Try replacing your DVD ROM. If it doesn't work, your HDD has gone KAPUT.As you said you replaced the RAM and it still dint work.
Click to expand...

I tried the USB . but still the same problem.
The problem is only getting worse, everytime i boot :S
More BSODs and File Not Found errors, less Boots.
 
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malay.keshav

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pulsar_swift said:
hhm, May be setup is unable to write files to your HDD ?
Click to expand...

I thought the same, but the HDD diagnostics show no problem in the Harddisk. But around 30,000 LRAND errors in the RAM :S

I will check the 3 RAM sticks one by one and then post again soon.

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So i ran the tests one by one on each RAM stick. And each of them has a problem.
But how can all 3 RAM have a LRAND problem all at once? 2 of them are factory default and the third one is new(8 months old).
 
pulsar_swift

pulsar_swift

Youngling
Check this URL.

*www.techspot.com/vb/topic76246.html

*www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?38471-LRAND-Errors-!!!!-Please-Help-Me/page2
 
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malay.keshav

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pulsar_swift said:
check the second URL.
Click to expand...

I checked all my RAM sticks one by one. All of them have LRAND error.
But since the error is on all of them , i am thinking that maybe the Motherboard is Frying my RAM sticks or is it just 3 new RAM sticks for me? :S

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So i have Run All the Diagnostics there is to run.
Everthing is PASSED except for the RAM (specifically the LRAND, in Windows Memory Diagnostic Tests and Memtest86 *img3.imageshack.us/img3/3184/10062010008.jpg )
I guess that explains everything.
The BSODs in the Games durning the past 2 weeks, the BSOD during the Windows Install (as it makes a RAM Drive to install) and the Problems in the boot of Hiren's Boot CD which again makes a RAM Drive.

The most surprising thing is that all 3 of my RAM sticks are gone at once.
Most prolly due to the over heating Issues or keeping my computer ON for 4-5 Days non stop. Or maybe running Graphic and memory Intensive Games and programmes.

Will Post a reply when i get a new set of RAM sticks, which might take time as i am really short of money thanks to my new Digi Cam and Desktop Speakers(Which i cant use at the moment).
Hopefully the New RAM works.
Cheers on my First Hardware Failure. :|
*img3.imageshack.us/img3/3184/10062010008.th.jpg
 
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malay.keshav

Broken In
:C_tired:
So i replaced my RAM,Hard Disk And even the PSU with brand new ones and removed my graphics card. And guess wat ? :razz: It still didnt work :-|
So in the End either the NEW RAM got fried as well, meaning a problem with the motherboard or the RAM is fine and my motherboard is Fried.
Either way, i need a new Motherboard.

Any other ideas? I dont want to waste my money on a new Motherboard to find it doesnt work as well.
 
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