Indians and privacy

whitestar_999

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This hits too close to home, with some interaction with my peers man :(
You know the worth of privacy in a nation/culture when people worry more about their neighbours' opinions of their choices than themselves(a 50k sofa set is useless unless all neighbourhood aunties have seen it(online & offline) & given compliments, never mind the actual utility of the sofa set).
 

theterminator

Wise Old Owl

UP Police will monitor online pornography.
This is because too much pornography is one of the causes of Rape. An old user with the handle ‘chaitanya2106’ tried to put this infront of forum users but got thrashed by all corners from even users like ico. Nobody here believed this theory but it has been written about again and again.
 

Extreme Gamer

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exactly the kind of amateurish attitude that continues with the users in this thread.
go out and live with the people first , know their culture not in your colony or college
If you're that Indians abuse women because of adult content, I would like to know your sources or studies which point to this.
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
You made a statement, you should prove it. You should not ask others to debunk a statement you made.

Regardless, here is the first study in Google I found.


Results presented needs to be interpreted with extreme care and caution. Nevertheless, the results from this study suggest that easy access to pornography did not have a significant impact on rape rates and crime rate against women.

There were statistically significant positive correlations between number of internet users and; total number of rapes (r = 0.857, P < 0.002), total crimes against women (r = 0.791, P < 0.006), and the percentage of total crime that was directed against women (r = 0.842, P < 0.002). There was no correlation between the number of internet users and total number of sexual harassment cases (r = 0.335, P = 0.313). However, there was also a significant positive correlation between total population and; total number of rapes (r = 0.933, P < 0.001), total crimes against women (r = 0.95, P < 0.001), the percentage of total crime that was directed against women (r = 0.933, P < 0.001), and the total number of sexual harassment cases (r = 0.844, P < 0.001). In addition, total population positively correlated with number of internet users (r = 0.935, P < 0.001). Hence, to control for the influence of population growth, linear regression was done using the number of rapes as the dependent variable; total population, number of internet users, and other crime rates as independent variables. None of the variables were significant.

This study is not 100 percent conclusive, if you have a study that claims otherwise, please link.

I am not going to delude anyone into thinking ANY study like this can be conclusive. Not at all, there are too many variables involved. But when lawmakers use their pre-conceived notion and bring in arbitrary laws WITHOUT any study, that's a call for protests. IMO, any law that comes into effect because of some study, however biased it might be, it has to be in public domain. Lawmakers dont get to tell us, dude trust me.. this is for the best and pass in some judgement.
 
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whitestar_999

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I don’t have that much time to research for you. Try to debunk the theory.
Trump also has/had a theory about his rightful election being stolen. Rapes were happening in India long before internet/pornography. Much more than this, it is the victim blaming culture(she must have asked for it) & the lax police & judicial system that encourages many people to think they can get away with it with some planning & money/muscle power.
 

theterminator

Wise Old Owl
You made a statement, you should prove it. You should not ask others to debunk a statement you made.

Regardless, here is the first study in Google I found.




This study is not 100 percent conclusive, if you have a study that claims otherwise, please link.

I am not going to delude anyone into thinking ANY study like this can be conclusive. Not at all, there are too many variables involved. But when lawmakers use their pre-conceived notion and bring in arbitrary laws WITHOUT any study, that's a call for protests. IMO, any law that comes into effect because of some study, however biased it might be, it has to be in public domain. Lawmakers dont get to tell us, dude trust me.. this is for the best and pass in some judgement.

First put a theory and then say that it’s not conclusive
 

theterminator

Wise Old Owl
Trump also has/had a theory about his rightful election being stolen. Rapes were happening in India long before internet/pornography. Much more than this, it is the victim blaming culture(she must have asked for it) & the lax police & judicial system that encourages many people to think they can get away with it with some planning & money/muscle power.

No buddy , you’re only talking about influential people’s rape. And sure there was rape before internet. But you can’t deny the correlation between pornography and rapes.
If you’ll read the news reports of any rape/molestation thoroughly then you will always find the accused made a video. Many times that video gets leaked to internet.
 

RumbaMon19

Feel Pain.
There are a number of factors to the "RAPE" problem in India.

-The definition of rape varies country to country. in some countries like germany, Sweden and even UK, these laws are very liberal. For eg. this thing, if had happened in India, would have resulted in death penalty.

-In india, there is no thing as consensual s## it is legal only between married couples. So even if it happened with consent, a case can be filed against it.

-There's a lot of problem in the school curriculum. Students are not taught anything related to personal space OR respecting and treating opposite gender like Human. this thing makes children very unaware. And when these children explore the internet, they see Pornographical content and think that is a NORMAL thing (and can be done with anybody), and ultimately their thinking becomes that way. And the real reason behind porn ban in India was this. Untill students are not taught to stop behaving withthe opposite gender like a "S#x Object" , this problem will retain.

-In India, Since a long time, Men are encouraged to be more powerful than women. Women are told from birth to be disciplined and often this leaves an impression on men that they are stronger and can do anything and impression left on women is that they have to be disciplined. BUT remeber, this was done at very old times, AND is still practised in highly backwards areas of our country. this Mentality of Male dominanace is the main reason behind it.

- Rapist have been classified into two major categories.
-Biological:- Who feel that in order to continue there race, they should rape and increase population(Not much research is done on this, as if this was true, there would have been constant rapes in all countries.
-Societal rapists:- These either are of the belief that the victim is of lower class and hence would not be taking action accordingly. This category also has people who have a fetish to rape. Rape gives them pleasure.
All these categories are limited to india though.

So ultimately conclusion is that "Porn" is not the only cause of rape, But does have an intense role in it.
 

theterminator

Wise Old Owl
There are a number of factors to the "RAPE" problem in India.

-The definition of rape varies country to country. in some countries like germany, Sweden and even UK, these laws are very liberal. For eg. this thing, if had happened in India, would have resulted in death penalty.

-In india, there is no thing as consensual s## it is legal only between married couples. So even if it happened with consent, a case can be filed against it.

-There's a lot of problem in the school curriculum. Students are not taught anything related to personal space OR respecting and treating opposite gender like Human. this thing makes children very unaware. And when these children explore the internet, they see Pornographical content and think that is a NORMAL thing (and can be done with anybody), and ultimately their thinking becomes that way. And the real reason behind porn ban in India was this. Untill students are not taught to stop behaving withthe opposite gender like a "S#x Object" , this problem will retain.

-In India, Since a long time, Men are encouraged to be more powerful than women. Women are told from birth to be disciplined and often this leaves an impression on men that they are stronger and can do anything and impression left on women is that they have to be disciplined. BUT remeber, this was done at very old times, AND is still practised in highly backwards areas of our country. this Mentality of Male dominanace is the main reason behind it.

- Rapist have been classified into two major categories.
-Biological:- Who feel that in order to continue there race, they should rape and increase population(Not much research is done on this, as if this was true, there would have been constant rapes in all countries.
-Societal rapists:- These either are of the belief that the victim is of lower class and hence would not be taking action accordingly. This category also has people who have a fetish to rape. Rape gives them pleasure.
All these categories are limited to india though.

So ultimately conclusion is that "Porn" is not the only cause of rape, But does have an intense role in it.

Thanks .. I only read the conclusion which is in agreement .
 
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Desmond

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My interpretation would be that Indians are not mature enough for porn. But that does not mean porn must be banned. If porn must be banned, then also ban alcohol.
 

Extreme Gamer

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-In india, there is no thing as consensual s## it is legal only between married couples. So even if it happened with consent, a case can be filed against it.
This is wrong. There is enough case law to establish the concept of consensual relations between individuals, and there are several specific judgements at both the high court and supreme court levels that have ruled against rape charges where the defendants were able to establish that the relationship was consensual, even if bonds of marriage were not entered into.
 
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