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Help with a gaming PC config within 40 K

Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Mostly gaming besides lots of browsing and movies. I'm moving from my Acer 5755G lappy to desktop just for gaming performance otherwise I love that mobility. Basically FPS and RPG. None of the CPU intensive titles like BF3 or planetside 2. I plan on hitting GTA IV and skyrim again though

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Maximum 38K for the CPU itself. Will be selling my lappy and camera for the cash. 2K for the rest stuff.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: NO. With bad experiences and maintenance problem with cooling systems, I don't plan on that. So NO Z77 MoBo

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 500 GB is enough, I've 2 external HDD for my data and movies.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: A 20" LED, but since I'm on a tight budget right now I'll buy an used CRT one for 900 Rs, will upgrade a few months later.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Mouse only, since I have a lappy, I'll be buying a cheap keyboard and manage with my headphones for the time being.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Within next month.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I do have some experience, but probably I'll get it assembled in some shop.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Berhampur, Odisha. Yes, I'll buying everything online except the cabinet and monitor.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?

My planned config is

Processor Core i3 3210
MoBo Not decided yet. No Z77 though
RAM G skill ripjaws 4 GB
GPU ATI Radeon HD 7850
PSU Corsair 650 W (model not decided yet)
HDD Any 500GB seagate model should do

This comes to about 31K. Keyboard and optical drive would be another 1500. Within 6K range I'm yet to decide on the MoBo and a cabinet. I'm planning on buying a used CRT monitor for cheap right now. In 7-8 months' time I'll be getting a 20" LED monitor and another 4GB RAM stick. There's also a big chance of upgrading to a Haswell based core i5. So please suggest a good MoBo that won't bottleneck my config and also a cabinet that has enough cooling capability and can accomodate the HD 7850

Any other suggestions are welcome too. But please keep the considerations within 38 (could extend to 40K for any future proofing)
 

hitman4

In the zone
i3 3220 6996
intel dz75ml-45k 4558
g skill 1x4gb 2100
wd blue 1tb 4108
gigabyte gtx 660 13500
cm k281 2855
corsair cx500 3900
any dvd wr 900
logitech keyboard 300
TOTAL 39217

if you want to reduce the cost you can go for 500gb hd
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
get Asus DRW-24B3ST for the ODD @1 ~ 1.1 k

and as OP says 500 GB is enough,
he can get a better GPU or Proccy with the amount saved.

@ OP : have you already bought win 7 ?
if you are planning to buy it , then the GPU might have to be Downgraded a bit.
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
No I'm happier with a better 500 Gb hdd than a 1Tb hdd. My PC would probably be online for about 15 hrs a day for downloads so I guess a better hdd counts. I'd rather invest in a better MoBo...probably get a better cabinet when I upgrade the cpu. Do you think those Frontech or Zebronics ones@800 Rs will hold up for a year before I get NZXT gamma or CM.

Also what's with HD 7850 vs GTX 660?
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
^^ they can hold up, but it doesn't make any sense, you'd be putting .8 k + 2.5 k (approx) for the cabby just 1.7 k difference.
get gamma now if its within the budget.

you might use linux distros for some time and get win 7 later.
no idea about GPU's though.
 
i3 3220 6996
intel dz75ml-45k 4558
g skill 1x4gb 2100
wd blue 1tb 4108
gigabyte gtx 660 13500
cm k281 2855
corsair cx500 3900
any dvd wr 900
logitech keyboard 300
TOTAL 39217

if you want to reduce the cost you can go for 500gb hd

Gigabyte B75M DH3 is a better motherboard. Also, as i3 3220 has no turbo boost, so the z7 chipset will go in vain.

i3 3220 (7000)
Gigabyte B75M DH3 (4000)
Corsair Value Select 4GB (1800)
WD Blue 500 GB HDD (2800)
Antec VP450P (2800)
NZXT Gamma (2500)
Zotac GTX660 (15000)
Asus Optical drive (1000)
Logitech KB (400)

total: 37300
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
you may get a better Proccy if you dont plan to buy a UPS. since 2k still left and local prices will be a bit lower.
i mean an i5 3rd gen
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
Forgot to answer that, yeah my bro has a copy of Win 7 x64 and since he'd be buying a new lappy, I'll get it from him. No point of using ubuntu on a gaming desktop. I can get an used UPS from my uncle, besides we do have inverter too.

Think I mentioned it already, but I'll mention it again. There's a 90% chance I'll upgrade to a Haswell core i5 when I get an LED monitor 7-8 months later, so I want that MoBo to stand solid for the next 5 yrs. (i5 4770 probably?)

Also do you think 2 GB version of the GPU is worth 3K extra on my tight budget? I won't be going above 21.5" monitor.

Will be upgrading to i5 with TB later. But Antec VP450P? By my calculations 600 W 80+ PSU should hit the sweet spot. 650 W is just cautionary. I'd have gotten a corsair 600W PSU for ~4K.

Any budget cuts possible in this field to pump it over to GPU department?
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
^^ why the hell on this planet are you going to waste the 7k to a "Temporary processor"

sorry if you feel this a bit exaggerated, but there's no point in investing 7k for a temp processor, unless you buy a completely new config later instead of upgrading this one.


and as for the budget cuts, if you're planning to get an i5 later, better get it now. (their prices are high though)
and why not i5 3rd gen ?
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
The temporary proccy can be sold for 4-4.5K I suppose, no? If my budget weren't so tight like Kim Kardashian's *** I'd have gotten a i5 3570 right away. But I think the rest of the system should be good enough to NOT bottleneck the new proccy I get. I'm dying to play Assassin's Creed 3 but my lappy overheats and won't let me. That's why it's so hard to wait :'( I've already killed my lappy's hdd with my thermal shutdowns and after chkdsk could no longer handle it I had to replace it xD
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
three things :
1. if you buy a mobo for an 2nd/3rd gen proccy now, it wont work with the 4th gen proccy you buy afterwards, so you would need a new mobo too.
2. if you get a 3rd gen i5, i'm not pretty sure, it will be that good as the 4th gen.
3. if you can even increase your budget by merely 4 k ,you can have latest i5 4th gen, (I dont know whether they are at the right price clot to be bought now)
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
Yes I was actually talking about a mobo that'd support 4th gen Haswells. same LGA 1155 with h61 that'll be backwards compatible. Are you sure there's a market for old proccy?
My shallow research says 4th gens are 8~10% more efficient. 3rd and 4th gens are about 1k apart.
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
Yes I was actually talking about a mobo that'd support 4th gen Haswells. same LGA 1155 with h61 that'll be backwards compatible. Are you sure there's a market for old proccy?
My shallow research says 4th gens are 8~10% more efficient. 3rd and 4th gens are about 1k apart.


couldn't get this.
would you mind to explain a little bit ?

and yes, 8~10 % more efficient is generally with every update Intel does, so that info is correct.
and as for the Processors, the i5 4th gen proccys are available for 1k difference with first price at 12k i.e., 12k, 13k, 14k, like that.

the thing to consider is , will you use any of the further Effeciency which is available with 4th gen i5 and not with 3rd gen i5 ?
IMO, the upgrade will not be much with a casual gamer.

are you in a condition to increase the budget?
because both your Processor and MOBo will have to be sold if you plan to upgrade in 7-8 months.
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
Ah I see, it's 1150 pins! Hadn't noticed. So I'll stick to the 3rd gen (Actually I had a crazy plan originally, to buy the 4th gen Haswell directly without a GPU and buy the GPU 7 months later. I had heard HD graphics 4600 can hold its own ground, but chuck that idea anyway: The price to performance ratio with a MoBo replacement together ain't worth it). So what do you say, core i3 3220+GTX 660 (2GB GDDR5) or core i5 3550+HD 7850 (1GB GDDR5)
 
Ah I see, it's 1150 pins! Hadn't noticed. So I'll stick to the 3rd gen (Actually I had a crazy plan originally, to buy the 4th gen Haswell directly without a GPU and buy the GPU 7 months later. I had heard HD graphics 4600 can hold its own ground, but chuck that idea anyway: The price to performance ratio with a MoBo replacement together ain't worth it). So what do you say, core i3 3220+GTX 660 (2GB GDDR5) or core i5 3550+HD 7850 (1GB GDDR5)

i5 3550 + HD7850
 

mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
^^ obvious choice :)

so the config stands at :
Intel i5 3550
Gigabyte B75M D3H
HD7850 (1GB GDDR5)
Corsair Value select 4 GB
WD Blue/Seagate 500 TB
Asus DRW-24B3ST
Corsair cx600 V2
Logitech Keyboard
NZXT Gamma

have I left something ?
somebody quote the prices. :|
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
thank you mastercool, harshil and hitman for this information overload. Yes everything is final (mastercool, you left the optical drive :p).

Cabby 2700 (http://www.bitfang.com/nzxt-gamma-mid-tower-black-interior-cabinet-pid39135)
PSU 4450 (http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-cmpsu-600cxv2uk-600-watts-psu/p/itmd5xz4qhbpvvzk)
MoBo 4350 (http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga...sem,1,G,9226359,g,search,,19319548220,1o1,,,c,,,,,,,)
Proc 12500 (http://www.snapdeal.com/product/intel-33-ghz-lga-1155/585005?utm_source=earth_feed&utm_campaign=21)
GPU 15500 (http://www.snapdeal.com/product/forsa-geforce-with-cuda-gtx660/1337323/?pos=2;0;15)
RAM 2200 (http://www.snapdeal.com/product/corsair-vengeance-ddr3-4gb-1/435132)
HDD 3300 (http://www.flipkart.com/seagate-bar...f8-d32006cd4536&srno=t_2&otracker=from-search)
Optical 1000 (locally)

Totals to 46000 :'( . The proccy is i5 3550+GTX 660. If I downgrade GTX 660 to HD 7850, I get a leeway of only 2500, But if I cut down on i5 and get i3 3220, I get a cut of 5500 even with GTX 660. That comes *VERY* close to my budget.
 
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mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
thank you mastercool, harshil and hitman for this information overload. Yes everything is final (mastercool, you left the optical drive :p).

Cabby 2700 (NZXT Gamma MID TOWER Black interior cabinet, Compare and Buy latest Cases Online in India: bitFang.com)
PSU 4450 (Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2UK 600 Watts PSU - Corsair: Flipkart.com)
MoBo 4350 (Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard - Gigabyte: Flipkart.com,,,,,,,)
Proc 12500 (Intel 3.3 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5 3550 Processor - Buy Computer Components @ Best Price | Snapdeal)
GPU 15500 (Forsa Geforce with CUDA GTX660 2GB DDR5 192 BIT PCI EXP w/HDMI Graphic Card - Buy Computer Components @ Best Price | Snapdeal)
RAM 2200 (Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4GB (1 x 4GB) Laptop RAM (CMSX4GX3M1A1600C9) - Buy Computer Components @ Best Price | Snapdeal)
HDD 3300 (Seagate Barracuda 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (ST500DM002) - Seagate: Flipkart.com)
Optical 1000 (locally)

Totals to 46000 :'( . The proccy is i5 3550+GTX 660. If I downgrade GTX 660 to HD 7850, I get a leeway of only 2500, But if I cut down on i5 and get i3 3220, I get a cut of 5500 even with GTX 660. That comes *VERY* close to my budget.


no buddy, i wrote the ODD see the Asus DRW-24B3ST
:rolleyes:

DONT DOWNGRADE THE PROCESSOR.
even if you dont feel any lag in any work or gaming, you'll still feel like " yaar wahi le aate toh accha rehta" (It would have been better if i would have took that one) or like "why did I not bring that one, it costed just 2.5 k bucks more."

and more importantly, when you go from i5 to i3, you might actually face lags under heavy load.

actually, I still get jealours of someone having an i5 2400 due to unavailability, so had to buy i5 2310 instead, and i think like that almost every week :D

Street prices will be less than the price on websites.
 
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Nerevarine

Incarnate
thank you mastercool, harshil and hitman for this information overload. Yes everything is final (mastercool, you left the optical drive :p).

Cabby 2700 (NZXT Gamma MID TOWER Black interior cabinet, Compare and Buy latest Cases Online in India: bitFang.com)
PSU 4450 (Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2UK 600 Watts PSU - Corsair: Flipkart.com)
MoBo 4350 (Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard - Gigabyte: Flipkart.com,,,,,,,)
Proc 12500 (Intel 3.3 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5 3550 Processor - Buy Computer Components @ Best Price | Snapdeal)
GPU 15500 (Forsa Geforce with CUDA GTX660 2GB DDR5 192 BIT PCI EXP w/HDMI Graphic Card - Buy Computer Components @ Best Price | Snapdeal)
RAM 2200 (Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4GB (1 x 4GB) Laptop RAM (CMSX4GX3M1A1600C9) - Buy Computer Components @ Best Price | Snapdeal)
HDD 3300 (Seagate Barracuda 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (ST500DM002) - Seagate: Flipkart.com)
Optical 1000 (locally)

Totals to 46000 :'( . The proccy is i5 3550+GTX 660. If I downgrade GTX 660 to HD 7850, I get a leeway of only 2500, But if I cut down on i5 and get i3 3220, I get a cut of 5500 even with GTX 660. That comes *VERY* close to my budget.

Never quote flipkart prices, get locally or through MD computers/SMC
 
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Coldbreeze16

Journeyman
I don't live in a metro. Even in the biggest city of my state, Bhubaneswar, I'd suppose prices would be same or slightly higher. If it were only 2.5k difference I'd have gotten core i5 but it's a whopping 5.5k yaar!

no buddy, i wrote the ODD see the Asus DRW-24B3ST
:rolleyes:

DONT DOWNGRADE THE PROCESSOR.
even if you dont feel any lag in any work or gaming, you'll still feel like " yaar wahi le aate toh accha rehta" (It would have been better if i would have took that one) or like "why did I not bring that one, it costed just 2.5 k bucks more."

and more importantly, when you go from i5 to i3, you might actually face lags under heavy load.

actually, I still get jealours of someone having an i5 2400 due to unavailability, so had to buy i5 2310 instead, and i think like that almost every week :D

Street prices will be less than the price on websites.

*that* feeling is totally relatable :D Felt the same when i bought my first smartphone 3 yrs ago

this looks too good to be true! http://www.sethiainfotech.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-660-oc-2gb-gddr5-pci-e-graphic-card-gv-n660oc-2gd.html
 
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