Just to add some info regarding mobos,don't buy any gigabyte ryzen mobo for now.MSI has best ryzen mobos in budget/mid range price(mainly msi tomahawk & msi gaming pro carbon ac) so get one of them(gaming pro carbon if possible).
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was thinking to go with msi series.. gaming pro carbon is a bit costly. whats your view on this MSI B450M MORTAR Motherboard (AMD Socket AM4/Ryzen 2nd Gen Series CPU/Max 64GB DDR4-3466MHz Memory)
B450M Mortar Titanium has similar VRMs as Tomahawk but not sure about this non-titanium mortar version.Better to wait for tomahawk to come back into stock because mortar titanium is actually a little costlier than tomahawk.
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Am a noob about this vrm thing.. heard its important for overcloking. Can you throw some light about what is vrm & why its imp?
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VRM basically regulate voltage being supplied to processor & are the most crucial component in a mobo.Not just OC,a powerful processor(like 2700x) running at 90% load without OC for few hours cannot be handled by poor VRMs found on many B450 mobos(practically all gigabyte & majority of asus/msi). A poor quality VRM has to work more & because of that it gets heated faster resulting in thermal throttling of processor & reduced life of mobo. At least some asus budget mobos can handle stock/mild OC of 4core/6core ryzen but if you want peace of mind & good OC potential in future then stick with msi(carbon pro ac(must for something like 2700x) followed by tomahawk & mortar titanium).
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Thanks @whitestar_999 very well explained.. what is the measure of vrm & does the specification page of mobo lists it so that we can compare diff. mobo vrm wise
VRMs are not mentioned in specs of mobo,reviewers have to physically examine the mobo & test it for finding VRMs efficiency.Some experienced reviewers can make educated guesses by just looking at VRMs in mobo pics.Check out this video,it is done by a guy who has a bit of reputation at reddit & he buys mobos for testing out of his own pocket money so he rely mainly on observation to pick only those mobos which he thinks are worth testing.
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@whitestar_999 in case of mobo which will be a better choice MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM Motherboard (Amd Socket AM4/Ryzen 2nd Gen Series CPU/Max 64GB DDR4-3466 MHz Memory) or ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Motherboard (Amd Socket AM4/Ryzen 2nd Gen Series CPU/Max 64GB DDR4-3200MHz Memory) considering an amd ryzen 5 1600 ?
All asus mobo below 20k(aka except their crosshair series) have average quality VRMs(still somewhat better than gigabyte though). Definitely go for mortar titanium or if you can wait & save 2-3k more then msi carbon pro ac is the best B450 mobo considering VRMs.
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You don't need a top of the line motherboard. BZ is more concerned about world record overclocks, and cares only about the VRM MOSFETs. Price wise, going from 8k mobo to 20k mobo will maybe give you a few percent more performance out of your overclock, but spending that money on a faster processor will give you a much higher performance boost.
^^The thing is there are some good 8-10k mobo with good VRMs from MSI(tomahawk,mortar titanium) so why purchase anything else & then there is ~13k msi gaming carbon pro with best VRMs in any B450 board.Good VRMs are not just for OC but they are also helpful when one is planning on using a processor like 2700x at 90% cpu usage for few hours daily.
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I am not disagreeing, but premium motherboards are significantly less value for money. On a fixed budget, you are better off with a 2700x and mid range motherboard, than a 2600 and a top end motherboard.
What you are saying is right but only under the conditions that 2700x is not used at a heavy load(say 90% cpu usage) for 4-5 hours daily because as per buildzoid reviews some of the B450 mobos VRMs can't even handle power draw of 2700x at stock but at heavy load for even few hours.For 2700x the only good B450 mobo is msi gaming carbon pro which costs ~13k which is reasonable because this much should be spend on a mobo if processor itself costs ~28k.
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a friend is offering gigabyte gtx 1050ti oc edition 4 gb less than 1 yr old & within warranty period... for 9.5 k. Should i get it? what you guys think about the offer? @SaiyanGoku @whitestar_999 @ssb1551 @Minion
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Not worth it.New ones are available for 13k but get a GTX1060 atleast lets you play all current title in ultra in 1080p
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Ok thanks.. will stick to my plan of getting a rx580 8gb or gtx 1060 6gb
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Finally ordered the following components :
Proc : AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - ₹ 11700/- ( starcomp.in)
Mobo : MSI B450M mortar - ₹ 8500/- (vedant)
Ram : Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB DDR4 3000 mhz
- 5668/- ( after 10% credit card discount on amazon)
SSD : WD 120 GB - 2100/- (Amazon)
PSU : Antec NE550M 550 watt Semi Modular -
₹ 3920/- (mdcomputers) (corsair cx550 out of stock everywhere)
Cabinet : Corsair Spec-4 Tempered glass side panel
₹ 3914/- ( great deal in amazon after 10% credit card discount)
GPU : Saphhire RX580 Nitro+ 8 GB - ₹ 24000/- ( vedant)
Monitor : LG 22MP68VQ - ₹ 8459/- (after 10% credit card discount on amazon)
Total - ₹ 68261/- ( comfortably within my budget
) . Thanks to everyone for their help.
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Proc : AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - ₹ 11700/- ( starcomp.in)
Mobo : MSI B450M mortar - ₹ 8500/- (vedant)
Ram : Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB DDR4 3000 mhz
- 5668/- ( after 10% credit card discount on amazon)
SSD : WD 120 GB - 2100/- (Amazon)
PSU : Antec NE550M 550 watt Semi Modular -
₹ 3920/- (mdcomputers) (corsair cx550 out of stock everywhere)
Cabinet : Corsair Spec-4 Tempered glass side panel
₹ 3914/- ( great deal in amazon after 10% credit card discount)
GPU : Saphhire RX580 Nitro+ 8 GB - ₹ 24000/- ( vedant)
Monitor : LG 22MP68VQ - ₹ 8459/- (after 10% credit card discount on amazon)
Total - ₹ 68261/- ( comfortably within my budget
) . Thanks to everyone for their help.Sent from my ASUS_X00TD using Tapatalk
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