Help me assemble my pc

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rock2702

Padawan
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Playing all the modern games like borderlands2,bf3,guild wars 2,metro 2033,witcher 2 and upcoming ones like gta v,crysis 3,ac 3 etc.Also will be doing some graphics designing using 3d maya and other softwares.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:50k,can go up to 52k max.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:Yes,but not now,maybe in a year,so want that option open

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:win 7 64 bit

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:I have a hard drive,also ssd is not needed.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:No,i have 23inch full hd monitor.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Monitor,case,psu,hdd,dvd r/w,keyboard,mouse.I have a seasonic s12ii 80+bronze 620w psu.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:This week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:I havent assembled before,will need tdf's advice on how to.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Locally not possible,will be buying online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:Basically i need cpu,mobo,ram and gpu within my budget.My main emphasis is on cpu and gpu,dont want a z77 mobo now as wont be overclocking the cpu for quite some time.Want to play games at ultra settings at playable fps or more for 3 years.
 
Cilus

Cilus

laborare est orare
So you basically need Processor + Motherboard + Graphics card + RAM, nothing else:

Here is the AMD based suggestion:
FX 8150 @ 11.3K
MSI 990FXA-GD65 Motherboard @ 9.45k
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GBX2 @ 3K
MSI R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC Graphic Card @ 28.5K


Total: 52.25K

INTEL CONFIG
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 12.5k
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 @ 10.6K
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GBX2 @ 3K
MSI R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC Graphic Card @ 28.5K

However, the Intel Config will be slightly overpriced compared to your budget but that is the minimum processor that can be overclocked. If you can drop the idea of overclocking then go for:-

Intel® Core™ i5-3550 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz) @ 12.5k
Asus P8B75-M @ 6.3K/GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H @ 6.9K

Now choice for AMD or Intel, at the same price point, when you're going for Intel i5 3550, Intel Ivy Bridge Processor, then the gaming performance is better with Intel as well as the power consumption. But you'll get a locked processor that can't be overclocked. On the other hand with AMD FX 8150, you will get a serious boost in Multi-threaded apps like Video Encoding, 3D designing etc and that can also be overclocked beyond 4 GHz (in expense of high power consumption) to increase the performance in future.

You should keep one thing in mind, gaming @ 1080P or higher, the Graphics card matters more than the CPU and if you have a strong enough CPU to push the Graphics card, even an age old 1st gen Core i7 920 will perform almost same as a 3rd Gen i5 3450 @ 1080P.

So facts are there, decide now.
 
A

_AkasH_

Broken In
the 3570k is 13.5K. One thousand difference for an unlocked processor which can go up to 4.5GHz. I'd say it's worth the money.

Isn't a 7970 overkill for a single monitor setup? I've always seen 7970 used with eye-finity.

If you're doing professional 3d work, have a look at NVidia cards. They are a little more expensive but better than AMDs for 3D work.

EDIT : Strike that, NVidias are better for CAD, apparently Maya doesn't have and Cuda plug-ins.
 
Cilus

Cilus

laborare est orare
_Akash, the current GCN based AMD cards are better in Compute performance by a big margin than the competitive Nvidia cards, both 600 and the previous gen 500 series. Current Nvida 600 series has very poor compute performance, even very poorer than 500 series. Initially when CUDA was the main API for boosting GPU performance in 3D work, Nvidia cards used to have some upper edge, but not due to superior architecture but due to API support. But that was a Closed environment API and only supported by Nvidia hardware and now getting phased out in the emergence of DirectCompute and OpenCL language which are generic in nature and can be used with any SIMD design, even with the Multi Core CPU. As a result, now GCN based AMD cards perform better due to their superior support for OpenCL and DirectCompute and a 7970 is sometimes 100% faster than GTX 680 Ti.
And I have suggested the best Gfx card within OP's budget for making it future proof. Sure, 7970 can handle XD resolution but if you wanna play even the most demanding games @ 1080P with the highest settings and max out the AA and AF then the 384 bit Bus and 3 GB memory of 7900 series will come very handy.
 
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rock2702

Padawan
Thnks cilus for your suggestions.The msi 7970 oc version is 28.5k while the non oc is around 29.7,this seems a bit strange,why is it so?Also is it ok to go with reference amd card having the blower style fan,will i be able to overclock it in future?Compared to the asus gtx 670 dcu ii non top version is this card better?
 
V

vkl

Cyborg Agent
@_AkasH_
In CAD also GCN based hd7000 cards are much faster than there geforce counterparts.In some applications they are like 2-3X faster.
 
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rock2702

Padawan
I have 28k cash to spare.I m using a 4 year old case which is a bit smaller than a mid tower,is not branded,airflow is very minimal but can house upto 12 inch gpu inside.I have 2 things in mind.
1.Get the 7950 vapor x for 23k and use 5k for a good case.
2.Get the asus gtx 670 diect cu ii non top model and use my old case.

If I go with 670 will I lose a lot on fps in games?I just want my graphics card to be good enough for maybe 3 years.Plz advice.
 
CyberKID

CyberKID

In search for Tech Gyan!
Seems like you've bought the components. Anyways, had a suggestion.
Quoting Flipkart Prices/Products:

Motherboard: Quoting a Z77 based mobo because you wanted to keep the OC option open.
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard : Rs. 10660
Processor: Intel 3.5 GHz FCLGA1155 Core i7 3770K Processor: Rs. 21347
Graphics Card: MSI AMD R7850 Power Edition 2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card: Rs. 15264
RAM: G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM: Rs. 3190

GRAND TOTAL: Rs. 50461

Also, if you're considering a case upgrade, do check out the NXZT Phantom 410. Looks great.
 
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rock2702

Padawan
Here is what I ordered
intel i5 3570k
Gigabyte ga-b75m-d3h(I will get a z77 board later if I feel the processor cannot keep up)
Gskill ripjawx 2*4gb ddr3 1600mhz ram
Seasonic s12ii 620w 80+bronze psu

I got a cheapo mobo now just to fit in a 7950 or a 670 in my budget.My cabinet is a very basic one,can fit in upto 12 inch graphics card but is a dust magnet,also there r a total of 4 fans on the cabinet,mainly 120 & 80mm ones.If I get a 7950 I can fit something like a corsair carbide 400r in my budget but am a bit worried about its performance in comparison to a 670.I just don't want to compromise on fps at highest settings.
So Plz suggest what should I spend my 28k in?
 
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_AkasH_

Broken In
Cilus said:
_Akash, the current GCN based AMD cards are better in Compute performance by a big margin than the competitive Nvidia cards, both 600 and the previous gen 500 series. Current Nvida 600 series has very poor compute performance, even very poorer than 500 series. Initially when CUDA was the main API for boosting GPU performance in 3D work, Nvidia cards used to have some upper edge, but not due to superior architecture but due to API support. But that was a Closed environment API and only supported by Nvidia hardware and now getting phased out in the emergence of DirectCompute and OpenCL language which are generic in nature and can be used with any SIMD design, even with the Multi Core CPU. As a result, now GCN based AMD cards perform better due to their superior support for OpenCL and DirectCompute and a 7970 is sometimes 100% faster than GTX 680 Ti.
And I have suggested the best Gfx card within OP's budget for making it future proof. Sure, 7970 can handle XD resolution but if you wanna play even the most demanding games @ 1080P with the highest settings and max out the AA and AF then the 384 bit Bus and 3 GB memory of 7900 series will come very handy.
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Thanks, I didn't know that. My friend wants a Photoshop/Flash animator build. Should I suggest a Quadro or any of the 7xxx AMDs? I checked the Quadro 400, it's priced at 10K and only supports Direct X 10.1. Any suggestions on this?

I think it'll be better to make a new topic, let me first do some research on my own.
 
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royal punjabi

Right off the assembly line
hi
i use computer for surfing and gaming like gta and watching hd videos.
i ve got display unit, ups, speakers, keyboard, mouse, dvd writer, 500gb hard disk.
plz suggest me rest of the stuff under 15k. earlier i decided to go for any i5 processor.
 
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