Hardcore Gaming in 80k budget

[amit.tiger12]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Gaming Gaming Gaming.
Which games? ohhh.. every new games + action based. (Call of duty, battlefield GTA 5)
I did not use any application as of now. But will use it when I will have new Computer. Nero, Video Conversion
And lots of application I used for Blogging.

And please suggest both intel haswell and amd computer system..


2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 80K maximum +/- 5K, but suggest me below 80k only.
Intel and AMD both budget computer configuration required.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes why not. if you are suggesting k series cpu will surely overclock it, i have now Intel Pentium D820.


4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Will use Windows 8.1 or 8. And will buy from streets.


5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: So much backups. So 3TB is selected already. And SSD is needed as gaming concern.
SSD required 840 pro 128 GB, HDD 3tb at least.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Yes. Will buy new monitor for all budget. But dont include it in budget will buy it separately. And please give better suggestion according to my budget.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: I will buy whole new computer. but cabinet part budget is 80K and for others will have separate budget.

will buy this components
Cabinet Parts + Disk Drive (DVD or Blueray) + Keyboard Mouse +
Headphone with mic (@ separate budget 5-6k)
Monitor (for all budget @ separate budget LCD/LED below 10K.. please give better suggestion according to my budget)
good webcam (@ separate budget 1-2K,)
printer (@ separate budget 5K budget)

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: After 22 December.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: No. But I have done some useless course hardware and networking. And I know how to remove and install parts. Other than this I don't know. I don't know whether i need assembler or not. Help me in this also.
Link for guidance.


10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Yes locally. In Mumbai place called Lamington Road.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: I made some research and considered some of the parts.

Intel Core i5 4670K
ASUS GeForce GTX 760 DirectCU II
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 16 GB 1600MHz (2 x 8 GB)
ASRock Z87 Extreme4 (never used this) / Asus Maximus V1 Hero (asus and gigabyte are familiar.) (For BIOS settings oc purpose is ASRock difficult to use?)
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128 GB
Seagate Barracuda 3 TB
Asus Blu-ray BW-12B1ST or Asus DVD Burner DRW-24D3ST/BLK/G/AS
(dvd is usefull or not as for gaming. Or most games uses Bluray)
(Or difference between Bluray player / bluray burner? player cant burn bluray??)
Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650 Watts / Corsair CMPSU-GS600W 600 Watts
Cooler Master Seidon 120M Cooler / Corsair H100 Cooler
Steelseries Siberia Full-Size V2

Suggest me both amd and intel haswell

I already posted here at least 3-4 times asking for this budget, but not got better opinion. So please help.

 

[The Incinerator]

Overclocking a Intel is no more the fun it used to be. And then theres the heat tackling that is spending money on better coolers and what do you get after all that a minor increment in FPS. If your sole purpose is gaming keep the overclocking part a bit easy and invest in a better GPU like the R9 280x or R9290.Chuck the SSD off for now and also the watercooling. For a 80K pure performance rig those are sheer waste of money.

Its very confusing,your post. What do you want in Rs 80K please mention them in a clear manner.

 

[ASHISH65]

Intel i5 4570 @ 14k

Asus H87 Pro @ 10k

G-skill ripjaws 4x2 = 8gb @ 5.2k

Asus R9 280x 3gb ddr5 @ 24k

Seasonic M12 II 650 @ 7K

Samsung S840 evo 128gb @ 7k

Nzxt Phantom 410 @ 6.5k

Seagate 3tb @ 10k

Total - @ 83,700

​For monitor - Dell s2240l led @9k

 

[ankush28]

Intel i5 4570 @ 14k
Asus H87 Pro @ 10k
G-skill ripjaws 4x2 = 8gb @ 5.2k
Asus R9 280x 3gb ddr5 @ 24k
Seasonic M12 II 650 @ 7K
Samsung S840 evo 128gb @ 7k
Nzxt Phantom 410 @ 6.5k
Seagate 3tb @ 10k
Total - @ 83,700

​For monitor - Dell s2240l led @9k

ditch SSD and get Asus R9 290, change mobo with Gigabyte z87mx-d3h ~9.5k (did i've spelled wrong )
change psu with SS750-JS ~5.7k


OP first think 280x with SSD will perform better or 290 alone.
SSDs are totally waste of money, it just helps to load game faster.
In gaming all you need is GRAPHICS CARD along with processor (which won't bottleneck it- the only requirement), 4-8GB of ram, decent cabinet with good airflow, capable psu...and other standard part
whether you game with i7-4770k or i5-4330 with same graphics card performence difference is negligible, the fact is i5 will allow better graphic card within same budget

 

[amit.tiger12]

Its very confusing,your post. What do you want in Rs 80K please mention them in a clear manner.

okay.
will buy this components..
Cabinet Parts (my budget is 80k maximum +/- 5k, but please save as much as you can)..

these below list for other components will have separate budget.
Please suggest these components also and save money here also.

Disk Drive (DVD or Blueray)(@seperate budget 2k)
Keyboard Mouse (@seperate budget 2k)
Headphone with mic (@ separate budget 5-6k)
Monitor (for all budget @ separate budget LCD/LED below 10K.. please give better suggestion according to my budget)
good webcam (@ separate budget 1-2K,)
printer (@ separate budget 5K budget)

please suggest me both amd and intel.

Overclocking a Intel is no more the fun it used to be. And then theres the heat tackling that is spending money on better coolers and what do you get after all that a minor increment in FPS. If your sole purpose is gaming keep the overclocking part a bit easy and invest in a better GPU like the R9 280x or R9290.Chuck the SSD off for now and also the watercooling. For a 80K pure performance rig those are sheer waste of money.

As per you are saying to invest in gpu but gpu are so costly here in india. 760 is some of the best so i decided to go fot this.
And for overclocking, please suggest any cpu (not unlocked) will give better performance than this cpu.
And water cooling can be neglected. I'm also thinking to stick to stock cooler.

please suggest me both amd and intel.

its good configure. please suggest amd also..

Intel i5 4570 @ 14k

Asus H87 Pro @ 10k

G-skill ripjaws 4x2 = 8gb @ 5.2k

Asus R9 280x 3gb ddr5 @ 24k

Seasonic M12 II 650 @ 7K

Samsung S840 evo 128gb @ 7k

Nzxt Phantom 410 @ 6.5k

Seagate 3tb @ 10k

Total - @ 83,700

​For monitor - Dell s2240l led @9k

its good configure..

Asus H87 Pro @ 10k

motherboard is good?

G-skill ripjaws 4x2 = 8gb @ 5.2k

which ram is it? 1600Mhz?

Asus R9 280x 3gb ddr5 @ 24k

Not Available

Suggest AMD also.

Suggest these below list also and save money here also.

Disk Drive (DVD or Blueray)(@seperate budget 2k)
Keyboard Mouse (@seperate budget 2k)
Headphone with mic (@ separate budget 5-6k)
Monitor (for all budget @ separate budget LCD/LED below 10K.. please give better suggestion according to my budget)
good webcam (@ separate budget 1-2K,)
printer (@ separate budget 5K budget)

 

[harshilsharma63]

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (12000)
CM hyoer 212 EVO (3000)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB x2 (4600)
Samsung 840 EVO 128 GB (7800)
Sapphire R9 280X 3 GB OC (23500)
Seasonic S12II 620 W (6350)
Corsair 500R (7400)

total: 77650

Monitor: Dell S2240L (9000)
Disk Drive: Asus optical drive (1050)

Anything above 280X is overkill for single monitor

 

[ASHISH65]

@op h87 pro is really good mobo and yes that ram is of 1600mhz speed.you can opt for kingston hyperx blue @4.6k also

 

[The Incinerator]

FX-8350 @ 12.5K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ Rs 6960 *www.deltapage.com/products/Asus-MotherBoard-%2d-M5A97-R2.0.html
Kingston HyperX Blue 4GB X 2 1600 MHz DDR3 @ 4.7K
DeepCool iceblade Pro CPu Cooler @ 3K
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA III HDD @ 4.1K
Asus R9 290 @ 36K (ASUS GRAPHICS CARD R9 290 4GB DDR5 (R9290-4GD5 - 90YV0560-U0IA00 - 886227632565 - 38,095.23))
Asus 24BS5T 24X SATA DVD R/W 1K
Corsair Carbide 400R Cabinet @ 5.35K (CORSAIR CABINET 400R (CC-9011011-WW - CC-9011011-WW - - 6,850.00))
Seasonic SS750-JS 750W 80+ PSU @ 5.6K (SeaSonic SS-750JS 750W 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply)
APC 1.1KVA Black @ 5.6K

Total: Rs 84,360






This rig was recently suggested by Cilus in another thread. A very balanced system.Get it if you care.

 

[Cilus]

^^ Thanks for suggesting it here. Actually now I wait a bit more for suggesting an AMD configuration, even though there are plenty of points to support it, just to avoid an AMD vs Intel war....that costed me a lot...you know it. Only suggest it when OP is asking it for explicitly or he has some requirements which can only be handled by the AMD config, within his budget.

 

[harshilsharma63]

Isn't R9 290 overkill for single monitor?

 

[The Incinerator]

It is now but even now in games like BF4 or Crysis3 or Metro or the upcoming GTA5 with all eye candies to the fullest the card will be less stressed than say a 280 and in a years time it wont be the same when games will demand more and 4K desktop monitors will start rolling out from likes of Benq and AOC,with reasonable pricing. Moreover OPs budget safely accommodates the R9 290 with a very capable processor which has a valid upgrade path, overclocking capabilities and then theres this well built motherboard from A lister manufacturer,I see no reason why not to get the suggested configuration but go for a lesser rig.

 

[amit.tiger12]

i5 4440 is good choice to buy?? if I dont want to overclock my cpu..

 

[harshilsharma63]

i5 4440 is good choice to buy?? if I dont want to overclock my cpu..

i5 4570 (non k) is better. BTW if you get a non-k CPU, replace the Z87 board with an H87 board as the chipset will not be useful.

 

[ankush28]

FX-8350 @ 12.5K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ Rs 6960 *www.deltapage.com/products/Asus-MotherBoard-%2d-M5A97-R2.0.html
Kingston HyperX Blue 4GB X 2 1600 MHz DDR3 @ 4.7K
DeepCool iceblade Pro CPu Cooler @ 3K
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA III HDD @ 4.1K
Asus R9 290 @ 36K (ASUS GRAPHICS CARD R9 290 4GB DDR5 (R9290-4GD5 - 90YV0560-U0IA00 - 886227632565 - 38,095.23))
Asus 24BS5T 24X SATA DVD R/W 1K
Corsair Carbide 400R Cabinet @ 5.35K (CORSAIR CABINET 400R (CC-9011011-WW - CC-9011011-WW - - 6,850.00))
Seasonic SS750-JS 750W 80+ PSU @ 5.6K (SeaSonic SS-750JS 750W 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply)
APC 1.1KVA Black @ 5.6K

Total: Rs 84,360






This rig was recently suggested by Cilus in another thread. A very balanced system.Get it if you care.

+1..

 

[bssunilreddy]

AMD FX 8350 -12500,
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 -7500,
Corsair Vengeance (4GBX2) 1600MHz -5300,
Corsair H60 2013 Edition CPU Cooler -4800,
WD Caviar Black 1TB -6500,
Sapphire R9 280X 2GB OC -23800,
Asus 24BS5T 24X DVD-RW -1100,
Corsair 400R Cabinet -6500,
Seasonic SS750-JS -4600,
APC 1100VA -5500,
Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100,
Coolermaster Devastator Gaming Combo -2800.
TOTAL -81700.

Separate Budget items:

Headphone with mic -Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset -5200,
Monitor -Dell S2240L 22" LED IPS -8800,
Webcam -Microsoft LifeCam HD-5000 -2000,
Printer -HP Lasejet P1108 -6000.
TOTAL -22000.

 

[amit.tiger12]

i5 4570 (non k) is better. BTW if you get a non-k CPU, replace the Z87 board with an H87 board as the chipset will not be useful.

thnx. I will buy 4570. (15k on flipkart.)
Intel Core i5 4570 vs 4440

what about 4670? (15k on flipkart)
Intel Core i5 4670 vs 4570

which H87 board should i buy??

 

[ASHISH65]

thnx. I will buy 4570. (15k on flipkart.)
Intel Core i5 4570 vs 4440

what about 4670? (15k on flipkart)
Intel Core i5 4670 vs 4570

which H87 board should i buy??

Gigabyte H87M-D3H Motherboard - Gigabyte: Flipkart.com

 

[amit.tiger12]

+1..

at same price on flipkart
8350 (14K) and 4570 (15K)

Intel Core i5 4570 vs AMD FX 8350

Today’s programs and games are becoming increasingly complex. Thus, chipmakers are experimenting with multi-core processors in order to keep up. But does having more cores automatically equal to better performance? To answer this question, we’re testing the Quad Core Intel Core i5 4570 versus the Octa Core AMD FX 8350 to find out.

The 4570 is part of the Core i5 series, which is Intel’s mainstream Quad Core brand. It’s clocked at 3.2 GHz, with 4 threads and 6 MB cache. It also packs an HD 4600 for its integrated graphics; quite decent, but not suited for gaming. Thanks to Haswell’s improved 22nm manufacturing process, it’s able to run more efficiently, consuming only 84W TDP of power.

Its competition, the 8350, is part of AMD’s FX series which is geared towards multi-core performance. It has Eight Cores clocked at a whopping 4 GHz, with 8 threads and 8MB cache. Its multiplier is also unlocked, thus well-equipped for overclocking. But these specs come at a cost: it’s less power efficient at 125W; additionally, it doesn’t have integrated graphics so you have to buy a discrete video card.

Benchmarks show that the 8350 has the slight advantage: It posted 10% better results in Geekbench, and 21% in PassMark. To the 4570’s credit however, it posted a 41% advantage in the PassMark Single core test, which means that it performs much faster in a core to core comparison.

In conclusion, both CPUs are well matched and are suited to different scenarios. If you’re after a feature packed processor that’s easy on the wallet, opt for the capable performance of the AMD FX 8350. But if you’re after a cutting edge CPU that’s also power efficient, then we recommend the Intel Core i5 4570.

 

[ASHISH65]

For Gaming intel is way to go..if you can afford it

 

[amit.tiger12]

Separate Budget items:

Headphone with mic -Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset -5200,
Monitor -Dell S2240L 22" LED IPS -8800,
Webcam -Microsoft LifeCam HD-5000 -2000,
Printer -HP Lasejet P1108 -6000.
TOTAL -22000.

can you suggest more options and better for headphone with mic.?
Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset is 6.2k on flipkart.
Razer Carcharias Headset - Razer: Flipkart.com
please suggest below that price..

I like this headset. Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset.

For Gaming intel is way to go..if you can afford it

thnx. but is it really good? 4570?
will it run all latest games? smoothly?