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mikael_schiffer · Apr 9, 2020

Guys i have multiple queries so i didnt create a separate thread.
I know there is a Lockdown on delivery too, so i wont be able to order/purchase anything for the next month or so for sure.
Anyways, i checked online stores and found that the RTX 2070 price has really dropped :smile:

INNO3D at Rs33,000 (3 yr warranty)

*www.theitdepot.com/details-Inno3d+GeForce+RTX+2070+Twin+X2+(N20702-08D6-1160VA22)_C45P31011.html

Zotac at Rs 35,000 (2+3 yr warranty)

*mdcomputers.in/zotac-gaming-geforc...20700e-10p.html?search=rtx 2070&category_id=0

So i have decided that i will buy either of these two. (its funny how my choice went fron 1660ti to 2060 and now 2070, getting free salary during Lock-down with zero money spending on dining out and movies does increase the budget )
However, check my specs

Ryzen 1500x
Gigabyte B350M DS3
16GB 2666MHZ RAM
Antec VP500PC Power Supply

Should i upgrade these components too?

I wanted to wait for the next gen Ryzen CPUs (4 series) which seems to be pretty sweet looking as of now, 7nm and all, so i dont really want to upgrade my CPU. However, should i upgrade my PSU for the RTX2070, or wait till i purchase the next gen 7nm Ryzen??

I checked this site Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 GPU Compatible PC PSUs
And it seems my PSU can handle the RTX 2070. Add to the fact that my processor has very low power consumption.

ps. should i open a new thread?

quicky008 · Apr 9, 2020

Change the psu if you can, all other components seem good enough as of now.

mikael_schiffer · Apr 9, 2020

quicky008 said:
Change the psu if you can, all other components seem good enough as of now.

PLZ reccomend a a good PSU between Rs5000-6000 . It should be able to handle RTX 2070 and Ryzen Zen 2 CPU that will launch next year
Is this good? Buy Antec NE600G Zen at Best Price in India - www.mdcomputers.in

whitestar_999 · Apr 9, 2020

*www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070/amd-ryzen-5-1500x/

Ryzen 1500x is just ok for RTX 2070,you should definitely upgrade processor later. Also,get zotac among these these 2 options. You also need to upgrade power supply to at least Corsair CX550.

@chimera201 anything on this antec neo eco zen series?

quicky008 · Apr 9, 2020

You can go with cx 550 as suggested by whitestar_999. It would be even better if you can procure a tx 550 as its supposed to be a gold rated psu-i remember buying it for around 6k back in jan 18,however it's price may have increased /decreased since then, i am not sure.

While antec's psu may be good, i still suggest going with corsair as their after sales service is a lot better than that of other brands.

The performance of 1500x is almost at par with 4770/4790,which is quite popular among gamers even now-so i think it should suffice for the time being. You can sell it later and buy something like a 2600 for increased power.

chimera201 · Apr 9, 2020

There's just one Korean review for Antec Neo Eco Zen. It seems to be better than Corsair CX but less than Antec Eathwatts Gold Pro or Corsair TXM.
For RTX 2070 I would recommend getting either Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro or Corsair TXM series. Whatever you buy make sure you are getting the latest model.

mikael_schiffer · Apr 10, 2020

chimera201 said:
There's just one Korean review for Antec Neo Eco Zen. It seems to be better than Corsair CX but less than Antec Eathwatts Gold Pro or Corsair TXM.
For RTX 2070 I would recommend getting either Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro or Corsair TXM series. Whatever you buy make sure you are getting the latest model.

how much watt shud i get??

mikael_schiffer · Apr 10, 2020

quicky008 said:
You can go with cx 550 as suggested by whitestar_999. It would be even better if you can procure a tx 550 as its supposed to be a gold rated psu-i remember buying it for around 6k back in jan 18,however it's price may have increased /decreased since then, i am not sure.

While antec's psu may be good, i still suggest going with corsair as their after sales service is a lot better than that of other brands.

The performance of 1500x is almost at par with 4770/4790,which is quite popular among gamers even now-so i think it should suffice for the time being. You can sell it later and buy something like a 2600 for increased power.

TX550M costs 7000 :sad:

TX650M costs 7400 :-(

mikael_schiffer · Apr 10, 2020

my PSU is already 500Watt.
Going for 550W is such a small upgrade but huge expense

omega44-xt · Apr 10, 2020

Your PSU is definitely not a high-quality one. Usually for something like RTX 2070, I recommend Corsair TX650M at 7.4k. But if you can't buy that, Corsair CX550 at 4.5k is a good one. 550W is definitely enough for R5 4600 (65W) + RTX 2070, but a cheap PSU has lower quality parts & low efficiency resulting in not being able to deliver close to 550W, let's say. I think Gold rated ones have close to 90% efficiency.

If you are sure about upgrading to Ryzen 4000 later, Zotac RTX 2070 is a good choice. If you can utilize it or not is a different thing, highly recommend at least a freesync 1080p 144Hz display as even RTX 2060 can hit 1080p ultra 60+fps in all games I think.

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whitestar_999 · Apr 10, 2020

mikael_schiffer said:
my PSU is already 500Watt.
Going for 550W is such a small upgrade but huge expense

It is not extra 50W but the quality,if your 500W psu was a good quality model not older than 3-4 years then there would have been no need to upgrade.

sling-shot · Apr 10, 2020

What is the equivalent of integrated graphics of Ryzen 2200G in AMD discrete card lineup? Like RX 550 or RX 560 etc.

I have a desktop with Ryzen 2200G, 16 GB RAM (dual channel, 3000 MHz), Corsair CX450. I am able to run Alan Wake at 1600 x 900 with low settings at around 50 FPS.
Control runs at around 30 FPS for a slightly lower resolution and low settings.

I want to know which low power discrete card can help me reach Full HD and 50+ FPS in Control?

SaiyanGoku · Apr 10, 2020

sling-shot said:
What is the equivalent of integrated graphics of Ryzen 2200G in AMD discrete card lineup? Like RX 550 or RX 560 etc.

I have a desktop with Ryzen 2200G, 16 GB RAM (dual channel, 3000 MHz), Corsair CX450. I am able to run Alan Wake at 1600 x 900 with low settings at around 50 FPS.
Control runs at around 30 FPS for a slightly lower resolution and low settings.

I want to know which low power discrete card can help me reach Full HD and 50+ FPS in Control?

*www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-vega-8/11.html

*www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-vega-8/12.html

Vega 8 is about 20% slower than a desktop GT 1030. Anything higher than a RX570 or GTX 1060 would be bottlenecked by the CPU. In that case, consider buying them used.

sling-shot · Apr 10, 2020

I need to look for RX 570 brands that consume the least power then.

Would RX 560 suffice to reach my expectations? In which case power draw would be minimal.

quicky008 · Apr 11, 2020

sling-shot said:
What is the equivalent of integrated graphics of Ryzen 2200G in AMD discrete card lineup? Like RX 550 or RX 560 etc.

I have a desktop with Ryzen 2200G, 16 GB RAM (dual channel, 3000 MHz), Corsair CX450. I am able to run Alan Wake at 1600 x 900 with low settings at around 50 FPS.
Control runs at around 30 FPS for a slightly lower resolution and low settings.

I want to know which low power discrete card can help me reach Full HD and 50+ FPS in Control?

Control is not that well optimized - i have seen frequent fps drops and stutter on an i5 9th gen pc with 1060 6gb which was trying to run it at medium settings at 1080p.So i think you will be hard pressed to get a steady 50 fps at 1080p if you use an entry level gpu like rx 550/560.

sling-shot · Apr 11, 2020

Oh. Then RX 570 it is.

SaiyanGoku · Apr 11, 2020

sling-shot said:
Oh. Then RX 570 it is.

Don't buy a new one though. You might get a used one for 7-8k.

gameranand · Apr 19, 2020

What's the major difference between Zotac RTX 2070 mini and Zotac RTX 2070 super mini.
Is the price increase of around 10K worth it or not? Because both are from same chipset.

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chimera201 · Apr 19, 2020

gameranand said:
What's the major difference between Zotac RTX 2070 mini and Zotac RTX 2070 super mini.
Is the price increase of around 10K worth it or not? Because both are from same chipset.

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They are not the same chipset RTX 2070 and RTX 2070 Super are 2 different Nvidia cards.

*tpucdn.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-5600-xt-phantom-gaming-d3/images/relative-performance_3840-2160.png

Then again "mini" versions of cards are not recommended. They just have worse coolers in general.

gameranand · Apr 19, 2020

chimera201 said:
They are not the same chipset RTX 2070 and RTX 2070 Super are 2 different Nvidia cards.

*tpucdn.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-5600-xt-phantom-gaming-d3/images/relative-performance_3840-2160.png

Then again "mini" versions of cards are not recommended. They just have worse coolers in general.

Is the price hike worth it? I checked with the reviews and found that cooling is pretty good on Zotac mini cards, also they are cheaper.
My 970 died recently and I am in need of a Replacement. What would you suggest?

I need a card which would enable me gaming at full settings and best value for money. I want it work for 5-6 years.

Also I don't play latest games. I am a patient gamer. I usually play games after 2-3 years of release date.

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