From AMD FX to Core i5 Haswell Gaming RIG under 55,000

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bssunilreddy

bssunilreddy

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Hai,

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Pure Gaming & Database Administration. Games like BF4, Witcher 3, Nuclear Union, AC-Black Flag, Survarium. Applications like Oracle 9, Informatica 11, Office 2007, Virtual Machines.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 55,000.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 8 x64 Pro

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 256GB SSD

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No. Already have Dell ST2220L, 1920x1080.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Kingston V+200 240GB SSD, Corsair TX650M, Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz, Corsair 300R, Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW, Dell ST2220L LED, Microsoft Sidewinder X6, Logitech G400, Logitech Z313 Speakers.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: January 15th,2014.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Yes. I will assemble it myself.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Hyderabad. Getting locally only. No buying online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: What would be the optimum gaming configuration which should be sufficient for another 3 years.

I was thinking of the below configuration. Please suggest any other alternative options as I am open to suggestions always...

Intel Core i5 4570 -13800,
Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H -7500,
Sapphire R9 270X 2GB OC -15800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC BLUE LED fans -1400,
Coolermaster 120mm 2 BC BLUE LED fans -1200,
Coolermaster Hyper 103 -1800.
TOTAL -41,500.

An other alternative Config:

AMD FX 6300 -7400,
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 (rev. 3.0) -6000,
Sapphire R9 270X 2GB OC -15800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1400,
Coolermaster 120mm 3 BC RED LED fans -1800,
Coolermaster V4 GTS -4600.
TOTAL -37,000.
 
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ACidBaseD

ACidBaseD

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Does your data administration need heavy CPU power? if no then why such a beast CPU and such a mid end gpu.
Also no way 270X will last you for 4 years. I am thinking of buying it with the fact that i'll have to upgrade it in 1.5-2 years MAX

Also may i ask why are you switching over to intel ? [read my power saving post somewhere? :p] because 8320 is a very capable CPU.

Now to the balanced build i would suggest:

i5-4670k - 16.1
MSI Z87-G43 GAMING LGA 1150 Intel Z87 - 12.2k
Sapphire R9-280X - 23.6k
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
Belkin 1.4a 2mtrs HDMI Cable - 0 rs [Sapphire R9-280X Come's with a free HDMI Cable]
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Total - 56.2k

I am sure the 280X will serve you very well for atleast 3 years very well [thanks to it's extra VRAM you are more future proofed :p]

Save up money for little time and throw in a 212 Evo
 
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Cilus

Cilus

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Buddy, that won't be much of a upgrade. Check if you can squeeze a i7 4770K instead. And if you want to improve the existing system's gaming performance, just get the Sapphire R280X Dual Fan OC version @ 24K from mdcomputers.in. For running Oracle Server, Informatica and Office 2007, I don't think you will get good advantage by switching from FX-8320 to i5 4670K.
 
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bssunilreddy

bssunilreddy

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Cilus said:
Buddy, that won't be much of a upgrade. Check if you can squeeze a i7 4770K instead. And if you want to improve the existing system's gaming performance, just get the Sapphire R280X Dual Fan OC version @ 24K from mdcomputers.in. For running Oracle Server, Informatica and Office 2007, I don't think you will get good advantage by switching from FX-8320 to i5 4670K.
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Now I have increased my Budget to 68k from initial 55k. Please suggest accordingly. I have decided upon the following:

Intel Core i7 4770k -24500,
Gigabyte GA-Z87M-D3H -9700,
Sapphire R9 280X Dual-X -23500,
Corsair H60 2013 Edition -5000 or Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO -2800,
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
TOTAL -67,000.

I have a doubt. Whether Corsair H60 is better or Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is better in terms of maximum cooling both of them having push-pull setup.
Please clarify if GTX760 2GB is better than R9 280X in terms of price to performance ratio and will any of them will last for at least 4 years max.
 
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ACidBaseD

ACidBaseD

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bavusani said:
Now I have increased my Budget to 68k from initial 55k. Please suggest accordingly. I have decided upon the following:

Intel Core i5 4770k -24500,
Gigabyte GA-Z87M-D3H -9700,
Sapphire R9 280X Dual-X -23500,
Corsair H60 2013 Edition -5000 or Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO -2800,
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
TOTAL -67,000.

I have a doubt. Whether Corsair H60 is better or Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is better in terms of maximum cooling both of them having push-pull setup.
Please clarify if GTX760 2GB is better than R9 280X in terms of price to performance ratio and will any of them will last for at least 4 years max.
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You made a typo , it should be i7 4770k :p

That motherboard isn't good for extreme OC's with the i7 4770k, it's the lowest tier Z87 OCable mobos.
I say downgrade the CPU as i7 4770k is pretty overkill for your usage and save money.

Also can you please answer my question: " may i ask why are you switching over to intel ? [read my power saving post somewhere? ] because 8320 is a very capable CPU."


760 will definitely not last for 4 years and NO price to performance of a 280X is >> 760
If your GPU doesn't burn/crash/gets fried/brakes and does last 4 years somehow yes it MIGHT be able to play games on lowest settings. BUT MIND YOU the sapphire 280X has only 2 years of warranty.

Here's my suggestion:
i5-4670k - 16.1
MSI Z87-G43 GAMING LGA 1150 Intel Z87 - 12.2k
Sapphire R9-270X - 15.5k
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500
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Total : 48.1k

After 2 years replace 270X with a enthusiast level gpu of around 20k

Total after 2 years: 68.1k

Rig will last 4 years, playing all games with atleast high settings 1080p. Enjoy :)
 
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bssunilreddy

bssunilreddy

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ACidBaseD said:
You made a typo , it should be i7 4770k :p

That motherboard isn't good for extreme OC's with the i7 4770k, it's the lowest tier Z87 OCable mobos.
I say downgrade the CPU as i7 4770k is pretty overkill for your usage and save money.

Also can you please answer my question: " may i ask why are you switching over to intel ? [read my power saving post somewhere? ] because 8320 is a very capable CPU."


760 will definitely not last for 4 years and NO price to performance of a 280X is >> 760
If your GPU doesn't burn/crash/gets fried/brakes and does last 4 years somehow yes it MIGHT be able to play games on lowest settings. BUT MIND YOU the sapphire 280X has only 2 years of warranty.

Here's my suggestion:
i5-4670k - 16.1
MSI Z87-G43 GAMING LGA 1150 Intel Z87 - 12.2k
Sapphire R9-270X - 15.5k
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500
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Total : 48.1k

After 2 years replace 270X with a enthusiast level gpu of around 20k

Total after 2 years: 68.1k

Rig will last 4 years, playing all games with atleast high settings 1080p. Enjoy :)
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Thanks for a very good suggestion in fact.
Sapphire is giving 2 years of warranty where as Aditya Infotech is giving 3 years of warranty in India to Sapphire GPU's.


Reasons for me switching from AMD FX to Intel Haswell:

Power bills are spiking upwards to 3k per month.
My MB is not the best overclockable board.
My UPS which HP 800VA is not supporting my present config.
I need the best config which will last another 4 years definitely with best power savings.

I did not get any answer regarding my query of which is better in terms of performance to price ratio :Corsair H60 or Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO (both with push-pull setup)

As for as the present setup is concerned I am going to sell AMD FX 8320, Asus M5A97 R2.0,Sapphire HD7770,Corsair H60 which might fetch me 18k.
Here is the config finalized by me:

Intel Core i5 4670k -16100,
MSI Z87-G43 Gaming -12200,
Sapphire R9-270X Dual-X -15500,
Corsair H60 2013 Edition -5000,
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
TOTAL -53,100.

If any changes are to be made please convey...
 
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ACidBaseD

ACidBaseD

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bavusani said:
Thanks for a very good suggestion in fact.
Sapphire is giving 2 years of warranty where as Aditya Infotech is giving 3 years of warranty in India to Sapphire GPU's.


Reasons for me switching from AMD FX to Intel Haswell:

Power bills are spiking upwards to 3k per month.
My MB is not the best overclockable board.
My UPS which HP 800VA is not supporting my present config.
I need the best config which will last another 4 years definitely with best power savings.

I did not get any answer regarding my query of which is better in terms of performance to price ratio :Corsair H60 or Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO (both with push-pull setup)

As for as the present setup is concerned I am going to sell AMD FX 8320, Asus M5A97 R2.0,Sapphire HD7770,Corsair H60 which might fetch me 18k.
Here is the config finalized by me:

Intel Core i5 4670k -16100,
MSI Z87-G43 Gaming -12200,
Sapphire R9-270X Dual-X -15500,
Corsair H60 2013 Edition -5000,
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
TOTAL -53,100.

If any changes are to be made please convey...
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I am not sure about coolers though. Also @ high OC , even the intel will draw loads of power [That was the reason i went for i5-4570 + cheap mobo combo, it's a lot of power saving in the long run.. It's almost as good as buying a new cpu when i5 becomes slower so i really don't need to worry for OC because i already future proofed my cpu ]

One more reason i would like you to not buy i5 4670k is that many users have reported that haswell overclocking is very bad [though many can reach a stable 4.6-4.7, some can't OC to even 4.3


Here's another suggestion for future proofing [i.e saving money to upgrade sooner]

i5-4430 - 12.5k
any B85 board - 6.5k
R9-270X-15.5k
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
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Total = 38.7 k and trust me when i say that the i5 4430 is a very capable CPU

Amount of money saved = 29.3k

Amount of money saved approx from electricity in 2 years = 11k [compare to i5 4670k overclocked]

Total money after 2 years = 40.3k = Full new system :)

If you are a hardcore gamer i suggest upgrading from 270X to 280X , if not then the above setup is also fine.
 
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bssunilreddy

bssunilreddy

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ACidBaseD said:
I am not sure about coolers though. Also @ high OC , even the intel will draw loads of power [That was the reason i went for i5-4570 + cheap mobo combo, it's a lot of power saving in the long run.. It's almost as good as buying a new cpu when i5 becomes slower so i really don't need to worry for OC because i already future proofed my cpu ]

One more reason i would like you to not buy i5 4670k is that many users have reported that haswell overclocking is very bad [though many can reach a stable 4.6-4.7, some can't OC to even 4.3


Here's another suggestion for future proofing [i.e saving money to upgrade sooner]

i5-4430 - 12.5k
any B85 board - 6.5k
R9-270X-15.5k
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
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Total = 38.7 k and trust me when i say that the i5 4430 is a very capable CPU

Amount of money saved = 29.3k

Amount of money saved approx from electricity in 2 years = 11k [compare to i5 4670k overclocked]

Total money after 2 years = 40.3k = Full new system :)

If you are a hardcore gamer i suggest upgrading from 270X to 280X , if not then the above setup is also fine.
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Ok but I will go with this config anyways dude.

Intel Core i5 4670k -16100,
MSI Z87-G43 Gaming -12200,
Sapphire R9-270X Dual-X -15600,
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo -2800,
Coolermaster 120mm 4 XtraFlo RED LED fans -2800,
Coolermaster 140mm 2 BC RED LED fans -1500,
TOTAL -51,000.

Out of 68k-51k=17k+interest which will be used for my GPU upgrade 2 years from now. I think the above config is sufficient for me now. Thanks again.
 
M

Minion

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You don't need a upgrade only upgrade GPU as suggested by cilus and you are good to go.
 
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bssunilreddy

bssunilreddy

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ACidBaseD said:
lol Seriously? You missed one 0 maybe?
Mine comes at around 8k [But we are 4 people in house] [Lesser in winters]
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I think Rs.300-400 is very low for whole house of rijinpk1 and while in summers my electricity bills soars to 5k also sometimes.
If I disable my cores to 4 will I get lower power consumption by the whole RIG of mine ? Can anybody answer my query ?
 
rijinpk1

rijinpk1

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ACidBaseD said:
lol Seriously? You missed one 0 maybe?
Mine comes at around 8k [But we are 4 people in house] [Lesser in winters]
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no... not at all, i am not drunk :p
8K?? i am also one of the four members of my home. i am from kerala , that may be a reason for lower elcetricity bills :p .we have almost all electronic equipments except ac, microwave oven etc.
i think 8k is too much for a house with 4 members. save some electricity and money by reducing the usage.

bavusani said:
I think Rs.300-400 is very low for whole house of rijinpk1 and while in summers my electricity bills soars to 5k also sometimes.
If I disable my cores to 4 will I get lower power consumption by the whole RIG of mine ? Can anybody answer my query ?
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300 rs is fine for me. i dont want a change there :p
do your cpu runs at full load? then lowering the cores may help. else i dont think you will make a substantial increase in power consumption
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

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rijinpk1 said:
no... not at all, i am not drunk :p 8K?? i am also one of the four members of my home. i am from kerala , that may be a reason for lower elcetricity bills :p .we have almost all electronic equipments except ac, microwave oven etc. i think 8k is too much for a house with 4 members. save some electricity and money by reducing the usage. 300 rs is fine for me. i dont want a change there :p do your cpu runs at full load? then lowering the cores may help. else i dont think you will make a substantial increase in power consumption
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Just to clarify; Is your bi-monthly electricity for the FULL HOUSE equipped with all basic equipments (like fridge, TV, PC, fan, cooler, etc) just 300 to 400 rupees? What is the unit rate of electricity in your area?
 
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