Flash and Arrow thread

[Flash]

OT: But yes, I actually started watching Friends recently, found it more real and funny.

Actually you can't compare Flash with HIMYM or Friends, it's totally a different genre. The closest you can compare is with TBBT.

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Right now, I only wish to Time Travel to 14th April when it's aired.

..and i'm straight to one day (future) after the final season (not S01, the final episode of the final season) was aired to bring back all the episodes from the future, and watch it like a marathon.

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The Flash - Different Person Trailer



Dr. Harrison Wells is not the original... Eobard Thawne, who had just killed Nora Allen only hours (or days, it's unclear) before, steals the real face of Dr. Harrison Wells and assumes his identity... epic!!!

Flash’s Real Eobard Thawne, Matt Letscher, Explains ‘Trickster’ Twist | Variety

next episode 18 All-Star Team-Up, can't wait more...

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I was like W T F, when i saw someone inside the Reverse Flash's suit other than Wells.

1. IMO, it's the same day. We saw RF running first and then F, so it's evident that F is there to stop RF from killing his mom or his younger version. They fight with each other around Nora Allen, and finally RF succeeds in his motive. We also saw RF was running towards younger Barry only to be hit by F. F should've taken younger Barry away from the scene (ie., few blocks away) and RF tries to escape at that time thereby fell on road only to discover he's depleted of Speed Force and can't return to future. F then returns to his current timeline leaving younger Barry with a hope that younger Joe West (Iris's father) will take care of him. Now the only option for RF is to wait for younger Barry to grow into adult, and become Flash - so that he can use F's speed force to return to future. Hence, he kills Wells and assumes his identity.

2. Since Thawne is from future, he should've used some mind-mapping technology which absorbs not only the physical traits of Wells but also his emotions, mind and feelings. I feel like Wells is composed to two men like Firestorm with Eobard Thawne and Real Harrison Wells inside the same body.

S01E18 gonna break its previous record of Arrow-Flash crossover for sure. It got'em all - Flash, Arrow, ATOM, FireStorm as Heroes and pits against Reverse Flash, Weather Wizard, Captain Cold (heatwave & golder glider too probably) and Bug eyed bandit as villains.

 

[RCuber]

Everyones reaction after the previous Flash episode (shamelessly stolen from reddit)

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*i.imgur.com/jnPS7XF.jpg

 

[ariftwister]

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2. Since Thawne is from future, he should've used some mind-mapping technology which absorbs not only the physical traits of Wells but also his emotions, mind and feelings. I feel like Wells is composed to two men like Firestorm with Eobard Thawne and Real Harrison Wells inside the same body.

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I think thats not the case here.. He told that he need to fasten the process of wells and tess creating star labs and also particle acclerator. He also mentions that it took them 20 years to do that. But thawne built the PA in 15 years. So he might be using Wells body on top of his feeling,emotions,knowledge etc

 

[Vyom]

S01E18 gonna break its previous record of Arrow-Flash crossover for sure. It got'em all - Flash, Arrow, ATOM, FireStorm as Heroes and pits against Reverse Flash, Weather Wizard, Captain Cold (heatwave & golder glider too probably) and Bug eyed bandit as villains.

It's going to be mini movie. I really think Ep 18 should be a double episode. 80 min of pure fun! But that would raise too much for the finale.

 

[Flash]

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I think thats not the case here.. He told that he need to fasten the process of wells and tess creating star labs and also particle acclerator. He also mentions that it took them 20 years to do that. But thawne built the PA in 15 years. So he might be using Wells body on top of his feeling,emotions,knowledge etc

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Ya. Thawne's mind may be the Dominant, suppressing Wells's .

BTW, from wiki

Eobard stalks Dr. Wells and reveals the particle accelerator is not built until the year 2020. He then appears to kill Wells and steal his appearance and identity so he can develop the particle accelerator sooner and return to his timeline.

 

[RCuber]

you know one thing I didn't get from the flashback

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where did The Flash disappear after saving the young Barry? It seems like after rescuing him, he looks as if he hit the electricity pole in the back ground and then disappeared.

 

[Flash]

you know one thing I didn't get from the flashback

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where did The Flash disappear after saving the young Barry? It seems like after rescuing him, he looks as if he hit the electricity pole in the back ground and then disappeared.

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He must've returned to his timeline.

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Everyones reaction after the previous Flash episode (shamelessly stolen from reddit)

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*i.imgur.com/jnPS7XF.jpg

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Ya. Especially the unmasking of Real Eobard Thawne. Btw, i find the fan theories in Reddit sometimes amazing. Also the comments are a lot funny like this.

That one kid who just stares as the bomb present as it floats towards his stupid little head deserves to die.

 

[theserpent]

My guess is that flash will probably be only 2 seasons

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you know one thing I didn't get from the flashback

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where did The Flash disappear after saving the young Barry? It seems like after rescuing him, he looks as if he hit the electricity pole in the back ground and then disappeared.

This is why

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For what I know, Only BARRY ALEN is capable of opening the time hole(paradox) so that, they can time travel, So basically Barry saved his younger self and went back to the future, and Thwane coudn't make it back, and that's the reason he(AS HARISSON WELLS) wanted BARRY TO RUN FASTER

 

[Flash]

My guess is that flash will probably be only 2 seasons

May or may not. Remember Barry Allen character was only contracted for 2 episodes for Arrow, but after it received huge reception from fans - they've hired writers and started a spin-off. Am sure it won't end with 2 seasons as "Flash" is one of the best superhero tv series with a gripping story accompanied by budget-free CGI.

 

[RCuber]

This is why

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For what I know, Only BARRY ALEN is capable of opening the time hole(paradox) so that, they can time travel, So basically Barry saved his younger self and went back to the future, and Thwane coudn't make it back, and that's the reason he(AS HARISSON WELLS) wanted BARRY TO RUN FASTER

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No, Both reverse flash and the Flash are capable of opening the time portal. IIRC, Speed force is the one responsible for everything including time travel and it can also be shared or stolen. What happened to Thawne is that there was no speed force left for him to time travel. What bugs me is that why didn't the Flash go back to save his mom and at least check on her. Only Time will tell.

 

[Flash]

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No, Both reverse flash and the Flash are capable of opening the time portal. IIRC, Speed force is the one responsible for everything including time travel and it can also be shared or stolen. What happened to Thawne is that there was no speed force left for him to time travel. What bugs me is that why didn't the Flash go back to save his mom and at least check on her. Only Time will tell.

In comics, there were 2 Speed force - One's the created by Barry Allen which is the usual and the negative speed force which Eobard Thawne uses by corrupting the actual speed force.

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With what TV show is portraying, Wells has no speed force of his own - the tachyonic prototype device which was stolen from Mercury labs energizes the suit in some way (maybe feeding of Barry's speed force). In last episode, we saw Gideon saying time jump drained of his speed force, thereby leaving him to wander in the past. Wells true motive is to make Flash faster than ever as a means of generating/using his speed force. For Quantum splicer of firestorm, Gideon warned Wells that it will delay "his schedule" (to return to future), if the splicer was taken off the suit. So my guess is, it's the suit which aids the time travel capability of Reverse Flash.


*d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1422778/harrison-wells-flash.jpg

But there's a contradiction here - If the suit is the reason of speed of RF, how Wells moved fast in his civilian clothes when Pied Piper was breaking the glass ceiling of Wells's house.

IMO, Barry's time travel is purely based on his instincts and Wells can travel time only via some device.

 

[amit.tiger12]

^ interesting..

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My doubt:

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flash ep 15, barry allen experienced time travel in last scene of ep 15. So he traveled time (past) for 1 day, and barry was same again (just the day before) to start things.
But as we all watching flash from 1st episode barry was child and another barry (from future) came in scenario, from time travel.
My doubt is this we saw 2 barry in his childhood, but what we saw in episode 15 was getting back to past, but there were no 2 barry.
they really messed up things for time travel?, or its early to say when they are revealing secrets of time travel?

 

[ashs1]

^ interesting..

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My doubt:

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flash ep 15, barry allen experienced time travel in last scene of ep 15. So he traveled time (past) for 1 day, and barry was same again (just the day before) to start things.
But as we all watching flash from 1st episode barry was child and another barry (from future) came in scenario, from time travel.
My doubt is this we saw 2 barry in his childhood, but what we saw in episode 15 was getting back to past, but there were no 2 barry.
they really messed up things for time travel?, or its early to say when they are revealing secrets of time travel?

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yeah..thats a good point.. maybe its because when barry goes back in time (ep 15), the time reversed is very small..( sounds stupid i know )

 

[amit.tiger12]

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Arrow Promo "Broken Arrow"



The Flash Promo "All Star Team Up"

 

[Vyom]

^ interesting..

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My doubt:

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flash ep 15, barry allen experienced time travel in last scene of ep 15. So he traveled time (past) for 1 day, and barry was same again (just the day before) to start things.
But as we all watching flash from 1st episode barry was child and another barry (from future) came in scenario, from time travel.
My doubt is this we saw 2 barry in his childhood, but what we saw in episode 15 was getting back to past, but there were no 2 barry.
they really messed up things for time travel?, or its early to say when they are revealing secrets of time travel?

We already discussed this. Read couple of posts from here: *www.digit.in/forum/chit-chat/190501-flash-arrow-thread-4.html#post2211322

 

[Flash]

My doubt:

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flash ep 15, barry allen experienced time travel in last scene of ep 15. So he traveled time (past) for 1 day, and barry was same again (just the day before) to start things.
But as we all watching flash from 1st episode barry was child and another barry (from future) came in scenario, from time travel.
My doubt is this we saw 2 barry in his childhood, but what we saw in episode 15 was getting back to past, but there were no 2 barry.
they really messed up things for time travel?, or its early to say when they are revealing secrets of time travel?

This is what i infer.

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Lets say, when Barry was running to morgue at the start of S01E15 - he sees another flash mirage. Lets say this (first) flash as F1 and the behind flash or future flash as F2. As the episode unfolds, F2 disintegrates (maybe the timeline wouldn't accepted two same persons to co exists in the same timeline) and F1 reaches morgue - bla- bla- bla- - and F1 runs back and forth to stop tsunami thereby accidentally time traveled to 1-day prior as F2 (he's the future flash now) by rupturing the space time continuum.

He then sees F1 (past flash) running before him, and F1 vanishes here. F2 then sets back everything right.

It means he have created two separate timelines - one in which whatever happened on S01E15, and the other one which is current.

Barry Allen time traveled to where he already exist in the timeline as Flash - which is one day prior. But during the death of Nora Allen there's only younger Barry who's not flash and he's just like a normal kid. There were no 2 Barry's at that time. So, he saved his younger self and returned back to his original future timeline.

 

[ariftwister]

Guys, I just noticed this.. When barry allen moves in superspeed, he makes a yellow streak.. also when Reverse flash moves in superspeed, he makes red streak. Is this intentional?? If so why was flash called as red streak (In Iris blog, for example) before he was given the name as flash. ?

 

[Flash]

Guys, I just noticed this.. When barry allen moves in superspeed, he makes a yellow streak.. also when Reverse flash moves in superspeed, he makes red streak. Is this intentional?? If so why was flash called as red streak (In Iris blog, for example) before he was given the name as flash. ?

Now only you're noticing. Just go and see "The Man in the Yellow suit".

*i.ytimg.com/vi/6vDTX3aRfnE/maxresdefault.jpg

 

[icebags]

"feeling the need to give a hug."

why the feeling isn't universal

 

[amit.tiger12]

We already discussed this. Read couple of posts from here: *www.digit.in/forum/chit-chat/190501-flash-arrow-thread-4.html#post2211322

please tell me post no.
So I can find it easily

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This is what i infer.

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Lets say, when Barry was running to morgue at the start of S01E15 - he sees another flash mirage. Lets say this (first) flash as F1 and the behind flash or future flash as F2. As the episode unfolds, F2 disintegrates (maybe the timeline wouldn't accepted two same persons to co exists in the same timeline) and F1 reaches morgue - bla- bla- bla- - and F1 runs back and forth to stop tsunami thereby accidentally time traveled to 1-day prior as F2 (he's the future flash now) by rupturing the space time continuum.

He then sees F1 (past flash) running before him, and F1 vanishes here. F2 then sets back everything right.

It means he have created two separate timelines - one in which whatever happened on S01E15, and the other one which is current.

Barry Allen time traveled to where he already exist in the timeline as Flash - which is one day prior. But during the death of Nora Allen there's only younger Barry who's not flash and he's just like a normal kid. There were no 2 Barry's at that time. So, he saved his younger self and returned back to his original future timeline.

little complicated, need to read again.

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Arrow - Sacrifice Look Ahead

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Those who want to know more about Time Travel..
watch "Back To The Future Trilogy" movie