Dragon Age III : Inquisition

Aditya11

Aditya11

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Apparently, since the game features a well-advertised homosexual characters and same sex romance, it goes against the article 377 of the Indian constitution. These are the "local content laws" against which EA has no standing. In essence, it's the fault of the Indian Government/Court for criminalizing the same-sex relationships...and the butterfly effect is that we can't play this game. I read in ToI that Aamir Khan received a legal notice for "promoting" homosexuality in the recent Satyamev Jayate episode. Its understandable if EA wants to steer clear of such legal mess.
 
gameranand

gameranand

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It was there in their previous games also. All Bioware games in fact for that matter and yet they didn't raised the eyebrow. :|
 
Aditya11

Aditya11

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New right-wing government is now ruling the country and anything potentially offensive to the sensibilities of the majority is being keenly watched on and subsequently banned. Slip-ups of the past government won't guarantee liberal action from the present government. After all, they have just made Sanskrit as a mandatory third language in Kendriya Vidyalayas, even during mid-term, citing laws.
 
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seamon

seamon

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gameranand said:
That doesn't mean that its right as per LAW.
Hey I raped someone but didn't advertised, does that makes me innocent ??
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The question is not about innocence.
It's about the issue not surfacing.

eg. FC 3 had a full explicit ending but nobody gave a damn.
 
sam_738844

sam_738844

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gameranand said:
That doesn't mean that its right as per LAW.
Hey I raped someone but didn't advertised, does that makes me innocent ??
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And who decides the LAW? Just because some country reeking of debauchery is not sensible enough to accept homosexuality and other sexual contents in a Video game simply contextual, does not make the game or its publisher ostensibly promoting it. There is no stupid law about that. EA is absolutely right to do it. India needs to grow up and improve on these, and fast. And so should your choice of words in collating perspectives, Rape is something so heinous that its mentioning should only be done with extreme caution. Its nowhere relevant in here.
 
Aditya11

Aditya11

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seamon said:
The question is not about innocence.
It's about the issue not surfacing.
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Also, one needs to remember that previous Bioware games with homosexual content were released at a time when the anti-LGBT laws in India were officially relaxed (2009-2013), due to Delhi HC judgement. However, since the end of last year, these laws are back in full force, when the SC re-criminalized homosexuality. This is most likely preventing EA from releasing DA:I, with its prominently featured gay content.
 
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gameranand

gameranand

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They did release their previous games here which had homosexuality, they could have released this one also. They didn't chose to.
Well doesn't matter to me, wasn't gonna buy the game anyway.
 
Nerevarine

Nerevarine

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<RANT>I remember fallout 3 was banned as well because of the presence of the two headed mutant cows.. Im a vegetarian, i dont eat beef or anything, and I am against Animal Cruelty.. but logically speaking, I dont consider there is something sacred in a cow... Fallout portrayed the effect of radiation on flora and fauna, Im sure they didnt intentionally want to hurt the sentiments of hindus.. But the biggest question is, Why does the government always intrude in matters like these ? If you are f**king OFFENDED by a GAME, then dont play it...Is the indian govt truly ruled by archaic dark aged era 60 year old hindu priests ? LOL, they dont ban a 3 minute commercial of a condom starring a porn star in skimpy clothes and suggestive themes but ban a 30+ hours game for 2-3 minutes of "suggestive" content (DA : I) and a mutated animal (Fallout ) ? WTF
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Sry for ranting, really hate injustice
 
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TheFallenLord

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Wait! I don't get it. Has the govt banned DAI or is it EA who've decided not to release the game in India in order to not breach the so called local content laws? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I don't know much about how these things work.
 
Aditya11

Aditya11

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Nerevarine said:
..but ban a 30+ hours game for 2-3 minutes of "suggestive" content (DA : I)? WTF
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The scale of homosexual content is MUCH more than that, actually. There is a homosexual companion who can accompany you for much of the game, has many suggestive dialogues and apparently the "love making" scenes (both straight and gay) are much more explicit than previous Bioware games.

TheFallenLord said:
Has the govt banned DAI or is it EA who've decided not to release the game in India in order to not breach the so called local content laws?
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It's the latter case. This seems an pre-emptive action taken by EA, going by the advice of their legal department. Bethesda did the same for Fallout 3. Companies tend to avoid getting into any legal mess, and who can blame them.

Edit: But it's entirely possible that the "gaming censor board" from the government, such as it it, reviewed the gaming content and found it objectionable. Then EA, instead of censoring the content, chose to withdraw the game from the market entirely.
 
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Nerevarine

Nerevarine

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Aditya11 said:
The scale of homosexual content is MUCH more than that, actually. There is a homosexual companion who can accompany you for much of the game, has many suggestive dialogues and apparently the "love making" scenes (both straight and gay) are much more explicit than previous Bioware games.
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I know what a bioware RPG is, I clearly remember Zevran Aranai, Fenris and Anders.. My point is, you have a CHOICE whether you want to engage in gay themes or not.. There is nothing Explicit even if you choose to pursue the "gay" romance option in previous games (not saying i did that myself :p :lol:)..
I really doubt there is "EXPLICIT SEX" scenes in DA I,. I guess we will never find out until the game comes out
PS: Zevran was one of my favourite characters of all time, i dont care if he's bi.. that guy is hillarious
 
Aditya11

Aditya11

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Nerevarine said:
I know what a bioware RPG is, I clearly remember Zevran Aranai, Fenris and Anders.. My point is, you have a CHOICE whether you want to engage in gay themes or not.. There is nothing Explicit even if you choose to pursue the "gay" romance option in previous games (not saying i did that myself :p :lol:)..
I really doubt there is "EXPLICIT SEX" scenes in DA I,. I guess we will never find out until the game comes out
PS: Zevran was one of my favourite characters of all time, i dont care if he's bi.. that guy is hillarious
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I understand where you are coming from, but here the point is about the existence of such content, which was well advertised by its developers and publishers before the game's launch.
I am guessing they were informed, although very late, about the potential legal problems of "promoting" such content in India where homosexuality is a criminal offence, and they pulled the plug on the game to avoid any legal hassles.
 
TheFallenLord

TheFallenLord

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Aditya11 said:
It's the latter case. This seems an pre-emptive action taken by EA, going by the advice of their legal department. Bethesda did the same for Fallout 3. Companies tend to avoid getting into any legal mess, and who can blame them.

Edit: But it's entirely possible that the "gaming censor board" from the government, such as it it, reviewed the gaming content and found it objectionable. Then EA, instead of censoring the content, chose to withdraw the game from the market entirely.
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All right, but if such is the case then how come games like Witcher 2 and Far Cry 3 which contained full frontal nudity and explicit lovemaking scenes, got released in India?

Nerevarine said:
I remember fallout 3 was banned as well because of the presence of the two headed mutant cows.. Im a vegetarian, i dont eat beef or anything, and I am against Animal Cruelty.. but logically speaking, I dont consider there is something sacred in a cow... Fallout portrayed the effect of radiation on flora and fauna, Im sure they didnt intentionally want to hurt the sentiments of hindus.. But the biggest question is, Why does the government always intrude in matters like these ? If you are f**king OFFENDED by a GAME, then dont play it...Is the indian govt truly ruled by archaic dark aged era 60 year old hindu priests ? LOL, they dont ban a 3 minute commercial of a condom starring a porn star in skimpy clothes and suggestive themes but ban a 30+ hours game for 2-3 minutes of "suggestive" content (DA : I) and a mutated animal (Fallout ) ? WTF
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I disagree here. If I remember correctly, the mutated cows in Fallout 3 were called "Brahmin" which doesn't necessarily mean a priest. Brahmin is one of the higher castes in Hinduism along with the Kshatriya. And that's what possibly offended certain sections among the Hindus. Now, like you I too don't consider cows to be sacred or holy but many do. Suppose if the game had mutated pigs called "Muslim", it could have offended some sections of the Muslim community similarly. Bethesda sure could have gone with some other name but they decided on Brahmin.

Anyway, as for me, I don't even believe in Religion, let alone castes. Heck I'm not even sure if God exists. I'm of the belief that IF God created man and while doing so he didn't differentiate, then who are we to decide that who will be a Hindu or a Muslim or a Sikh or a Christian? Who are we to decide who's gonna be a higher caste or a scheduled caste? But I can't expect everybody to think like me, can I? So we gotta respect others religious beliefs and sentiments even if we don't give a damn. Yeah it's just a freakin game and as you said, if you're offended by it then don't play it, but again not everyone thinks the same.

Piyush said:
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Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.
 
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