CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

hellknight

BSD init pwns System V
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Virtualization (max 2 VM at a time), watching HD movies via XBMC, programming.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 20k (+2k)

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Maybe.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: CentOS 6.5 & Arch Linux (primary), Windows 8.1 (only for gaming), OS X Mavericks (for testing the IPA files).

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: None, I have 2 TB.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: NO. I already have AOC F22 @ 1080p & Lloyd LCD TV at 768p. Intend to use them both.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, SMPS, HDD, ODD, Cabinet, graphics card.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Ist week of January

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Loads of time. I'll build it myself.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Himachal Pradesh.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Don't include AMD systems as they don't have support in OS X. Besides, the onboard Intel will be fine for me as I don't want to play games. I'm confused between Intel Core i5 4440 & 4570. Don't know which processor to pick as the price difference is just 1k.


Shortlisted this configuration.

Processor Intel Core i5 4440 - 11390
Motherboard Gigabyte H87M-D3H - 7090
RAM Corsair XMS 3, 4 GB - 2428
VAT 1045.4
Total 21953.4
 

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
I5 4430 -12.5k /i5 4570 -13.7k
asus b85m g -6.3k /Gigabyte H87M-D3H - 7090
kingston hyperx blu 4gb -2.5k
 

ASHISH65

Technomancer
Re: CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

Go with i5 4430 , just 200mhz difference between 4430 and 4570 (not worthwile for extra price you pay)

Get h87 board
 
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hellknight

hellknight

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AMD Kaveri is an APU and it will not have proper support for either Arch Linux & OS X. ATI has bad support when it comes to bleeding edge Linux distros. BTW, any idea about the price drop in the coming weeks?
 

URPradhan

Journeyman
Re: CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

AMD Kaveri is an APU and it will not have proper support for either Arch Linux & OS X. ATI has bad support when it comes to bleeding edge Linux distros. BTW, any idea about the price drop in the coming weeks?
What you are saying bro ? Linux distros do not work with AMD ??? Really laughable :D

It will not gone be faster than i5
It sits between high end haswell i5 and low end i7.
 
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hellknight

hellknight

BSD init pwns System V
Re: CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

What you are saying bro ? Linux distros do not work with AMD ??? Really laughable :D

I never said that they don't work with AMD. And update yourself, there's a difference between APU & CPU. Also you might want to search what is bleeding edge when it comes to Linux. AMD graphics has pathetic support for Linux. It is so bad that the open source driver is faster than the official driver from AMD in some instances.

AMD has only 2-4 guys who are working for Linux support whereas Intel has a dedicated team of 32 people who work for Linux support.

Besides this is my current configuration :-
  • AMD Athlon II X4 640.
  • Biostar TA 790 GX BE
  • 3 GB DDR2 RAM
  • Palit GTX 260 Sonic Core 216 graphics card.
  • Corsair TX 650 V2.
  • AOC F22 monitor.

Earlier I had ATI 4870 card, but it was so bad in Linux that I swapped it with my friend's NVIDIA GTX 260 card. Besides that, I'm a Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) so don't educate me about Linux support, kid.
 
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ASHISH65

Technomancer
Earlier I had ATI 4870 card, but it was so bad in Linux that I swapped it with my friend's NVIDIA GTX 260 card. Besides that, I'm a Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) so don't educate me about Linux support, kid.

Cool down :cool:
 
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hellknight

hellknight

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^OK. But he started it :D. Besides, I never said that AMD does not work with Linux. I've been running CentOS, Arch Linux, Debian, Ubuntu etc etc on that processor (including AMD Athlon X2 4400+) since 5 years.

Now back on topic, what is the difference between Corsair's Vengeance series & the XMS3 series? And is paying extra for Vengeance series justified?
 

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
Re: CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

xms3 runs at 1600mhz with 1.65V while vengeance and most others like ripjawsx etc can do it at 1.5v.
i recommend kingston hyperx blu>gskill ripjawsx> corsair vengeance> corsair xms3

They both are same in performance, XMS3 has better overclocking potential. get whichever is cheaper
over vengeance? how? any proof?

Oh! Sorry uncle, Pranam :D

ha ha :D :D
 

avinandan012

Cyborg Agent
@op get corsair value more than enough for usage. If you are not going to write/run any memory intensive code then the x-tra speed by vengence/xms is not worth it.

:offtopic: btw does anyone running any XEON based system ???
 

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
@op get corsair value more than enough for usage. If you are not going to write/run any memory intensive code then the x-tra speed by vengence/xms is not worth it.

:offtopic: btw does anyone running any XEON based system ???

there will be significant difference between 1333mhz and 1600mhz ram, but higher that does not have much effect on daily life. refresh time is better and overall performance would be even more snappier provided the cpu is compatible.
 
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hellknight

hellknight

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So, apparently, VT-d is supported only on Q87 chipset. Whereas AMD provides the equivalent AMD-Vi on almost every chipset. If it weren't for this hackintosh I would've gladly went with FX-8350. But then, FX-8350 and the compatible board doesn't have onboard graphics I think.
 

avinandan012

Cyborg Agent
Re: CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

search local markets for Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1240 v3(on FCLGA1150) should be around Rs.16000.
 
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rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
Re: CPU, Motherboard & RAM upgrade for 20k

search local markets for Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1240 v3(on FCLGA1150) should be around Rs.16000.

within a budget of 22k, it seems impossible.

So, apparently, VT-d is supported only on Q87 chipset. Whereas AMD provides the equivalent AMD-Vi on almost every chipset. If it weren't for this hackintosh I would've gladly went with FX-8350. But then, FX-8350 and the compatible board doesn't have onboard graphics I think.

vt-d is supported by non-K series intel cpus
 
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