buying new pc under 60 -65 k

[gagan_kumar]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:hardcore heavy gaming, light programming, watching hd movies, net surfing, image editing using photoshop and other tools. in gaming, games like need for speed -(the run, latest most wanted), ac 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry , max payne 3, call of duty black ops 2, GTA IV, GTA V(when it comes)


2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: around 60-65k. The last i can extend is 70k for really considerable config..

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:have no knowledge how to do so... therefore no.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:windows 7 and windows xp(pro) simultaneosly. will upgrade to win 8 later.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:1TB-2TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:yes,preferably any >20 inches monitor with LED display will do. resolution full hd

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:eyboard , mouse and speaker (i already have 5.1 channel speakers)

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:january

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:no... will be done by assembler don't want to mess up the new rig

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:bangalore, koramangala, planning to buy components from s.p.road

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: i want the rig should be like that it can play the games that will be releasing for atleast one year or so....
and ram should be >=8 GB
if suggesting intel processor please suggest gen III model integrated intel 4000 hd graphics(i7 prefarably)
have no idea about amd processors..
also any news on intel 4th gen cpu???

 

[The Incinerator]

Intel Core i5 3570 / i7 3770 - Rs 12750 / 17000 ( All Generation 3)
Gigabyte H77DS3H - Rs 7200
Gskill 8GB RAM F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL- Rs 2750
GPU - Gigabyte GTX 660Ti / Sapphire HD 7950 - Rs 19700 / 21000 ( you can game on for more than a year no problem!)
HDD - WD Caviar Blue 2TB - Rs 5400
SMPS - Corsair CX500V2/CX600V2 - Rs 3450/3750
Cabinet - NZXT Beta EVO/Source 210 - Rs 2600
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975
Monitor - Dell ST2220MB (21.5 inch LED Full HD 1920 x 1080) - Rs 8200

Total
Rs 62,775 (i5) / 67,025 (i7)

Add an SSD later on.And you wont need an i7 for gaming you are better off with an i5 at that budget.

 

[Neo]

Aren't you under quoting the prices? WD Blue 2TB at 5.4k? lol?
The rig is good btw, just change the ram to 4gb * 2 gskill ripjawsx 1600mhz

 

[gagan_kumar]

Intel Core i5 3570 / i7 3770 - Rs 12750 / 17000 ( All Generation 3)
Gigabyte H77DS3H - Rs 7200
Gskill 8GB RAM F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL- Rs 2750
GPU - Gigabyte GTX 660Ti / Sapphire HD 7950 - Rs 19700 / 21000 ( you can game on for more than a year no problem!)
HDD - WD Caviar Blue 2TB - Rs 5400
SMPS - Corsair CX500V2/CX600V2 - Rs 3450/3750
Cabinet - NZXT Beta EVO/Source 210 - Rs 2600
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975
Monitor - Dell ST2220MB (21.5 inch LED Full HD 1920 x 1080) - Rs 8200

Total
Rs 62,775 (i5) / 67,025 (i7)

Add an SSD later on.And you wont need an i7 for gaming you are better off with an i5 at that budget.

ok the GTX 660Ti has 2GB memory while sapphire hd7950 has 3 gb
which one is better?

 

[Cilus]

1st of all, Video Ram is not a good measure of performance, even GTX 680 does have 2GB memory but it performs far faster than HD 7950. Now coming to the topic, HD 7950 is a better card than GTX 660 Ti. Opt for the Sapphire HD 7950 VAPOR-X OC with boost model, available around 22K.
I am also suggesting you another AMD alternative, the FX 8 Core processors as you've mentioned applications like Photoshop and other editing tools.

AMD FX 8350 (8 Core, 4GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo, 8MB L2+ 8MB L3) @ 12.5K
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 @ 9.5K
G-Skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3 @ 2.9K
Seagate Barracuda 2 TB (ST2000DM001) 64MB Cache, 7200 rpm SATA III @ 5.8K
Corsair GS600 80+ PSU @ 4.2K
Sapphire HD 7950 VAPOR-X OC @ 21.8K

Rest of the parts are same as incinerator has suggested.

 

[gameranand]

ok the GTX 660Ti has 2GB memory while sapphire hd7950 has 3 gb
which one is better?

As Cilus already explained that performance does not depends on VRAM much specially at lower resolution, it would take advantage on very high resolutions which is not the case for OP. As for GPU with latest drivers by AMD 7950 is better.

RIG suggested by Incinerator and Cilus are both very good, Cilus RIG would give better performance in Application than Intel RIG. Choose what you want.

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

Intel Core i5 3570 / i7 3770 - Rs 12750 / 17000 ( All Generation 3)
Gigabyte H77DS3H - Rs 7200
Gskill 8GB RAM F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL- Rs 2750
GPU - Gigabyte GTX 660Ti / Sapphire HD 7950 - Rs 19700 / 21000 ( you can game on for more than a year no problem!)
HDD - WD Caviar Blue 2TB - Rs 5400
SMPS - Corsair CX500V2/CX600V2 - Rs 3450/3750
Cabinet - NZXT Beta EVO/Source 210 - Rs 2600
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975
Monitor - Dell ST2220MB (21.5 inch LED Full HD 1920 x 1080) - Rs 8200

change the mobo to MSI ZH77A-G41 @ Rs.5880 on expensivekart

 

[gagan_kumar]

hey guys will i need to buy some sort of cooling arrangement in this rig???

Till now this is the hardware m planning to go for

Processor:
Intel Core i7 3770 - Rs 17000

mobo:
Gigabyte H77DS3H - Rs 07200

RAM:
Gskill 8GB RAM F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL - Rs 02750

GPU:
Sapphire HD 7950 VAPOR-X OC - Rs 22000

HDD:
WD Caviar Blue 2TB - Rs 05400

SMPS:
Corsair CX600V2 - Rs 03750

Cabinet:
NZXT Beta EVO - Rs 02600

OPD:
Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 00975

Monitor:
Dell ST2220MB - Rs 08200

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Total - Rs 68975

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waiting for recommendations on cooling system(is it required)
and also any further performance changes
and is the price of WD Caviar Blue 2TB Rs 5400??

 

[gagan_kumar]

hey one more thing i read somewhere in the blog cilus mentioned that fx8350 is better than 3770 .
is it true??
and will it make any huge performance upgrade if choose 3770k over 3700??
which gpu should i prefer as gtx 660 ti got new driver updates and is almost same in performance as hd 7950??

 

[gameranand]

hey one more thing i read somewhere in the blog cilus mentioned that fx8350 is better than 3770 .
is it true??
and will it make any huge performance upgrade if choose 3770k over 3700??
which gpu should i prefer as gtx 660 ti got new driver updates and is almost same in performance as hd 7950??

Well Cilus don't make pointless posts so yes he is right. In multi threaded applications FX8350 performs better but choosing it over 3770K is not a good idea if you have the budget.
As for 3770 and 3770K. The K version means it has unlocked multiplier which means that its easily and more overclockable than their non K counterparts so its better to choose a K version rather than the simple version of the same CPU.

 

[Neo]

which gpu should i prefer as gtx 660 ti got new driver updates and is almost same in performance as hd 7950??

HD7950 performs better than the GTX660Ti

 

[gameranand]

Get 7950 as it also have awesome computing performance.

 

[Cilus]

Man, I never mentioned FX-8350 is better than i7 3770 or 3770K, I mentioned than it is better than similarly priced 3470 in terms of raw performance and features and better than slightly higher priced i5 3570K in terms of value for money and Multi threaded performance. If you have the budget then go for i7 3770 (non K).

Regarding performance of GPU, with the latest Nvidia Beta driver, GTX 660 Ti has narrowed the performance gap compared to HD 7950 with Catalyst 12.11 beta Driver but that is for only couple of gaming, specially the Nvidia promoted games like Far Cry 3. But HD 7950 does have an advantage that can't be caught by Nvidia 660 Ti, the higher Vram (3 GB compared to 2 GB) and wider memory bus (384 bit compared to 192 bit of 660 Ti). Due to these two reason, with AMD card, user can use higher Anti-Aliasing and Anisotrophic Filtering (AF) values and still can get playable or good FPS. in 660 Ti, the performance drops quickly in most cases with higher AA and AF setting.

 

[gameranand]

Man, I never mentioned FX-8350 is better than i7 3770 or 3770K, I mentioned than it is better than similarly priced 3470 in terms of raw performance and features and better than slightly higher priced i5 3570K in terms of value for money and Multi threaded performance. If you have the budget then go for i7 3770 (non K).

Regarding performance of GPU, with the latest Nvidia Beta driver, GTX 660 Ti has narrowed the performance gap compared to HD 7950 with Catalyst 12.11 beta Driver but that is for only couple of gaming, specially the Nvidia promoted games like Far Cry 3. But HD 7950 does have an advantage that can't be caught by Nvidia 660 Ti, the higher Vram (3 GB compared to 2 GB) and wider memory bus (384 bit compared to 192 bit of 660 Ti). Due to these two reason, with AMD card, user can use higher Anti-Aliasing and Anisotrophic Filtering (AF) values and still can get playable or good FPS. in 660 Ti, the performance drops quickly in most cases with higher AA and AF setting.

Looks like he got the wrong idea about the CPU. In some cases FX8350 comes very near to even 3770K and in some it was able to beat it IIRC but choosing it over 3770K is plain stupid.

 

[hitman4]

hey one more thing i read somewhere in the blog cilus mentioned that fx8350 is better than 3770 .
is it true??
and will it make any huge performance upgrade if choose 3770k over 3700??
which gpu should i prefer as gtx 660 ti got new driver updates and is almost same in performance as hd 7950??

gagan if you are willing to spend 25k for cpu and motherboard than it is better if you opt for FX8350 and asus Sabretooth 990fx....
or i5 3570k and gigabyte z77x d3h.....

 

[gagan_kumar]

Thanks for your replies guys.
Sorry got confused cilus u said this:
"At stock speed, i5
3470 is even faster than i7 3770 but that does
not stop us recommending i7 3770."
Is it true ...?
Then i7 3770 is not worth its cost...
And too bad we don't have vedant here at bangalore...

 

[hitman4]

Thanks for your replies guys.
Sorry got confused cilus u said this:
"At stock speed, i5
3470 is even faster than i7 3770 but that does
not stop us recommending i7 3770."
Is it true ...?
Then i7 3770 is not worth its cost...
And too bad we don't have vedant here at bangalore...

he said i7 3770K NOT i7 3770

 

[The Incinerator]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:hardcore heavy gaming, light programming, watching hd movies, net surfing, image editing using photoshop and other tools. in gaming, games like need for speed -(the run, latest most wanted), ac 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry , max payne 3, call of duty black ops 2, GTA IV, GTA V(when it comes)

Is the image editing and photoshop is of primary importance or it is like a normal non pro user.... day to day basis. Are you in to encoding and decoding heavily? Is this Rig primarily for gaming?

 

[vkl]

i5 3470 is not faster than i7 3770/3770k at stock.It might be a typo

 

[Cilus]

No Vkl, that is not a typo. 3470 performs better than i7 3770K in most games, . I don't know why but it does.

Check here: Benchmark Results: Battlefield 3 : AMD FX-8350 Review: Does Piledriver Fix Bulldozer's Flaws?