buying advice for workstation/gaming laptop under inr 140K

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shubhamgarg55583

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SaiyanGoku said:
Giving 5 more points just for around 1kg lesser weight? :confused:

Carrying 3 kgs laptop in bag isn't a big deal.
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I gave it 5 points because of its selling point i.e. portability, similarly, dell has 5 points in warranty.

I just talked to a dell representative, I have to pay 5K extra for accidental damage warranty so the only thing i'll be getting covered is manufacturing faults.

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I just talked to dell customer representative, the maximum capacity of dell m4800 is of K2100M so I can not change the GPU to K5100M or any other in the future.
 
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shubhamgarg55583 said:
I gave it 5 points because of its selling point i.e. portability, similarly, dell has 5 points in warranty.

I just talked to a dell representative, I have to pay 5K extra for accidental damage warranty so the only thing i'll be getting covered is manufacturing faults.

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I just talked to dell customer representative, the maximum capacity of dell m4800 is of K2100M so I can not change the GPU to K5100M or any other in the future.
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Guess that sucks hardcore.
 
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BTW 7200RPM drives are better than 5400RPM SSHDs.
Also, Clevo's build quality is easily better than MSI. Clevos are robust machines.

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Basically, for Dell you are paying a premium for protection for a not so powerful machine.
Meanwhile, Clevo is all about raw power.
 
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shubhamgarg55583 said:
I gave it 5 points because of its selling point i.e. portability, similarly, dell has 5 points in warranty.

I just talked to a dell representative, I have to pay 5K extra for accidental damage warranty so the only thing i'll be getting covered is manufacturing faults.

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I just talked to dell customer representative, the maximum capacity of dell m4800 is of K2100M so I can not change the GPU to K5100M or any other in the future.
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The problem with Dell and other first party notebook manufacturers is that they follow the guidelines laid by core hardware suppliers. They use MXM A slot, which is smaller. Also they follow notebook size guidelines for gpu selection, i.e. K3100M an up are available only for 17" models only.
 
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Siddhartht said:
The problem with Dell and other first party notebook manufacturers is that they follow the guidelines laid by core hardware suppliers. They use MXM A slot, which is smaller. Also they follow notebook size guidelines for gpu selection, i.e. K3100M an up are available only for 17" models only.
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Is that because the cooling mechanism of 15" Dell laptops is not good enough to handle K4100M/K5100M?
 
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seamon said:
BTW 7200RPM drives are better than 5400RPM SSHDs.
Also, Clevo's build quality is easily better than MSI. Clevos are robust machines.

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Basically, for Dell you are paying a premium for protection for a not so powerful machine.
Meanwhile, Clevo is all about raw power.
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After a lot of searching I realized that Sager can be trusted with hardware. [MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] you're right, sager offers RAW power, but what good it is if it is not combined with equally powerful software support?!
I can not run LINUX smoothly on Sager Laptops. Even the customer Helpline declined to comment on linux. They don't offer support for linux.
Most of the physics research software I am longing to learn are linux based so Sager is definitely not an option. Driver support for Sager laptops in general is also not the best in the market.

So, I have narrowed it down to either Dell m4800 & MSI WS60 20J.
As far as warranty goes, MSI is offering Accidental damage free of cost! :D
 
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Is that because the cooling mechanism of 15" Dell laptops is not good enough to handle K4100M/K5100M?
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The schematics are actually top notch for cooling, maybe because they want the system to be completely stress free.
Individual fans/heatsink/pipes for GPU/CPU with heat zone separation from motherboard.
 
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seamon said:
Maxwell mobile GTX series is here. Wait a little while for Maxwell mobile quadro.
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I guess Maxwell K2200M is weeks not if months away. From Techpowerup GPU database, it seems like a Maxwell 860M with reduced clocks @ 128b bus. :/ I only wish that someday nvidia will try to really differentiate their Quadro and Geforce offering by additional hardware benefits, not just driver/software stability.
 
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seamon said:
Maxwell mobile GTX series is here. Wait a little while for Maxwell mobile quadro.
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I can't wait for K2200M because even after weeks, Dell or any other company won't release that GPU in India. Even if some reputable company releases a laptop, I'll have to wait min 2 months for decent reviews and comments, so it's not worth it.

I really wanna go for dell but I am worried about it's weight, 4.1Kg(with Adapter).
MSI is at 2.6 Kg(with adapter)

The battery life for both of them is more or less same.

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AbhMkh said:
Much money, so Laptop !...WOW !
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Hell Yeah! :D :p
 
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shubhamgarg55583 said:
I can't wait for K2200M because even after weeks, Dell or any other company won't release that GPU in India. Even if some reputable company releases a laptop, I'll have to wait min 2 months for decent reviews and comments, so it's not worth it.

I really wanna go for dell but I am worried about it's weight, 4.1Kg(with Adapter).
MSI is at 2.6 Kg(with adapter)

The battery life for both of them is more or less same.

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Hell Yeah! :D :p
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That is something you need to decide, build quality and heat management vs portability and looks(although MSI have more than average build)
 
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Siddhartht said:
That is something you need to decide, build quality and heat management vs portability and looks(although MSI have more than average build)
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I have decided to go with dell, keeping in mind the back pain i'll probably get! :(
Dell is more professional looking and durable and a lot more things. MSI has great looks but with something this flashy , I'll probably get bored in a month or two plus it wouldn't look nice during presentations & stuff like that...

So Dell it is! :D

I am posting the specs below with the price information...Might be helpful for someone :)

1 Intel Core i7-4810MQ Processor (Quad Core 2.80GHz, 3.80GHz Turbo, 6MB 47W, w/HD
1 39.6cm (15.6") UltraSharp FHD(1920x1080) Wide View Anti-Glare LED-backlit Premium Panel
Guarantee
1 SWIPE Fingerprint Reader and Smart Card Reader (Contact and Contactless) Palmrest,Dell
Precision M4800
1 Bezel cam/mic HD+/FHD
1 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L (2x8GB)
1 1TB 5400 rpm Hybrid Drive
1 8X DVD+/-RW Drive Tray Load
1 9-cell (97Wh) Lithium Ion battery with ExpressCharge
1 NVIDIA Quadro K2100M w/2GB GDDR5
1 Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 802.11ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 + Bluetooth 4.0 LE Half Mini Card
1 Internal US/International Qwerty Backlit Keyboard
1 Ubuntu Linux 12.04 SP1

Price: Rs.133756
[I am thinking of getting the windows too with Linux, so the final price will be more than this]

and guys, do you have any ideas if I can get a better deal than this?!

Anyways, a BIG THANK YOU for all of you guys [MENTION=284377]Siddhartht[/MENTION] [MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] for your suggestions and advises! :)
It helped me a lot and gotta love this forum! :D :lol: :)
 
SaiyanGoku

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shubhamgarg55583 said:
I have decided to go with dell, keeping in mind the back pain i'll probably get! :(
Dell is more professional looking and durable and a lot more things. MSI has great looks but with something this flashy , I'll probably get bored in a month or two plus it wouldn't look nice during presentations & stuff like that...

So Dell it is! :D

I am posting the specs below with the price information...Might be helpful for someone :)

1 Intel Core i7-4810MQ Processor (Quad Core 2.80GHz, 3.80GHz Turbo, 6MB 47W, w/HD
1 39.6cm (15.6") UltraSharp FHD(1920x1080) Wide View Anti-Glare LED-backlit Premium Panel
Guarantee
1 SWIPE Fingerprint Reader and Smart Card Reader (Contact and Contactless) Palmrest,Dell
Precision M4800
1 Bezel cam/mic HD+/FHD
1 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L (2x8GB)
1 1TB 5400 rpm Hybrid Drive
1 8X DVD+/-RW Drive Tray Load
1 9-cell (97Wh) Lithium Ion battery with ExpressCharge
1 NVIDIA Quadro K2100M w/2GB GDDR5
1 Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 802.11ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 + Bluetooth 4.0 LE Half Mini Card
1 Internal US/International Qwerty Backlit Keyboard
1 Ubuntu Linux 12.04 SP1

Price: Rs.133756
[I am thinking of getting the windows too with Linux, so the final price will be more than this]

and guys, do you have any ideas if I can get a better deal than this?!

Anyways, a BIG THANK YOU for all of you guys [MENTION=284377]Siddhartht[/MENTION] [MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] for your suggestions and advises! :)
It helped me a lot and gotta love this forum! :D :lol: :)
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Ask them to a give an OEM copy of Windows 7 pro/Windows 8.1 pro free of cost. it doesn't costs them much considering they are giving a 5400 rpm HDD instead of a 7200 one at the price. also Linux Mint (based on ubuntu itself) is better than Ubuntu IMO
 
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SaiyanGoku said:
Ask them to a give an OEM copy of Windows 7 pro/Windows 8.1 pro free of cost. it doesn't costs them much considering they are giving a 5400 rpm HDD instead of a 7200 one at the price. also Linux Mint (based on ubuntu itself) is better than Ubuntu IMO
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Okay, but will I be able to install Win10 later on if I go with OEM version? I read that it is fixed with the mobo.
 
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