buying advice for workstation/gaming laptop under inr 140K

[seamon]

I know I can't upgrade/customize this laptop but at 0.85" and 1.9 kg, I am willing to close the deal right now for the next 4+ years.

I'll not be using eGPU

That'll be a very bad decision. This is because Maxwell is coming soon.
This. is still a better option. It is only 10k above your budget.
I don't think K2100M will be sufficient for next 2+ years(let alone 4+ years).

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Maxwell GPUs=mobile version of the newly released GTX 980 and GTX 970.

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

That'll be a very bad decision. This is because Maxwell is coming soon.
This. is still a better option. It is only 10k above your budget.
I don't think K2100M will be sufficient for next 2+ years(let alone 4+ years).

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Maxwell GPUs=mobile version of the newly released GTX 980 and GTX 970.

Thank you for the explanation , i think the link is dead, could you please look into it?

and my budget initially was 125K, I am throwing 5K of my own and 10K borrowed from my sister, I don't think I can go any higher

 

[seamon]

Thank you for the explanation , i think the link is dead, could you please look into it?

and my budget initially was 125K, I am throwing 5K of my own and 10K borrowed from my sister, I don't think I can go any higher

I strongly advise you to wait for Nvidia to release Quadro Maxwell mobile GPUs. Don't buy a laptop worth 1L+ with a weak GPU.

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

[MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] How long would I have to wait, assuming that after their release, it'll take some time(3-4 months) for their price to come down and 1-1.5 month for the order to arrive?

 

[seamon]

[MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] How long would I have to wait, assuming that after their release, it'll take some time(3-4 months) for their price to come down and 1-1.5 month for the order to arrive?

Forget it, price won't come down. You'll get the same price at launch that you'll get after 3-4 months. Electronics in USA get replaced faster than prices can come down. The mobile segment is entirely different from desktop because you can buy old GPUs/CPUs in the case of desktops.

It'll definitely take some time but the wait will be worth it.

 

[Siddhartht]

Thank you for the explanation , i think the link is dead, could you please look into it?

and my budget initially was 125K, I am throwing 5K of my own and 10K borrowed from my sister, I don't think I can go any higher

If you are ready to wait for something new, say Maxwell based Gpu, then you really don't need laptop now. I played the wait game.....and it lasted for a good 2 years. If you need something, just buy it. Considering electronics, kepler will be succeeded by maxwell in coming months, maxwell will again be succeeded by a refresh at the end of 2015 and a major refresh in 2016....so yeah, it's a perpetual thing. I got Vaio Z one and a half years ago, and it is close to being obsolete now? But will I stop using it? No, I don't regret the decision, because it is one hell of a fine machine, which I use when on long trips. It does have that fancy external gpu/bluray dock which I find a gimmick mostly, but it is a subnotebook which has a quad core i7 which is still enough for most of the tasks I do. I have also used HP pavilion which was quickly outdated(second gen to third gen) but still I didn't regret buying it because it completed all the tasks which I required it to do, now it might have taken a minute or more than new cards in encoding, but that is fine by me. The end line is, go for the thing you like, and then just don't look back at things you left. If you want Sager or Dell, just see their present value, not future, because in future, things might be drastically different then they are now. The next generation of Intel processors might have graphics which might equivalent to mid range dgpus (see Iris pro 5200), but then again that is next generation, not present.

And just think about the money you are investing.

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

[MENTION=284377]Siddhartht[/MENTION] You're absolutely right, I need a laptop right now, so i won't be waiting for maxwell GPUs.....

MSI WS60 20J
Do I need to be worry about heating issues with this laptop? I know it has a weaker GPU(& not upgradable) but it has great mobility(& warranty) which I prefer more because I'll be moving alot.

 

[seamon]

[MENTION=284377]Siddhartht[/MENTION] You're absolutely right, I need a laptop right now, so i won't be waiting for maxwell GPUs.....

MSI WS60 20J
Do I need to be worry about heating issues with this laptop? I know it has a weaker GPU(& not upgradable) but it has great mobility(& warranty) which I prefer more because I'll be moving alot.

Go for it if you really want a laptop now. No heating issues or as such.
Also, the this laptop has a thunderbolt port. You can easily add a NVIDIA TESLA later with no bottleneck as Thunderbolt has 10GBit/sec bandwidth.

 

[kunalgujarathi]

Guys uhh.....

A bit of offtopic but genuine suggestion!

You want laptop right?
Get this-
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Price in India- 1,49,000 FK

Price on Newegg- 71000
Add Customs 15000
Its 86000/-

Rest of your saving deposit in Bank!
Make an F.D.(SBI or Cooperative Banks preferred! More Interest)

After 2 years upgrade-
Nice new gen CPU and A good Quadro!

This 870m will suffice easily uptill now!

Regards,
kunalgujarathi

 

[kunalgujarathi]

Guys uhh.....

A bit of offtopic but genuine suggestion!

You want laptop right?
Get this-
Runtime Error

Price in India- 1,49,000 FK

Price on Newegg- 71000
Add Customs 15000
Its 86000/-

Rest of your saving deposit in Bank!
Make an F.D.(SBI or Cooperative Banks preferred! More Interest)

After 2 years upgrade-
Nice new gen CPU and A good Quadro!

This 870m will suffice easily uptill now!

Regards,
kunalgujarathi

I don't know why its showing runtime error-
Actual link-
Runtime Error
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[shubhamgarg55583]

[MENTION=266361]kunalgujarathi[/MENTION] I've seen this laptop before, I loved it but I just can't come to terms with it's weight! 4.5Kg is alot to travel around.

 

[Siddhartht]

Go for it if you really want a laptop now. No heating issues or as such.
Also, the this laptop has a thunderbolt port. You can easily add a NVIDIA TESLA later with no bottleneck as Thunderbolt has 10GBit/sec bandwidth.

Actually, I don't think anyone will buy Tesla for themselves(Unless they are totally into research and have a huge government grants). It took my University four months to decide if they want to buy Teslas or not.
In the end they did, and it was like 30L ? for 12 of them.
Let me tell you the Typical scenario we follow with Tesla. I use a Windows tablet, upload the task remotely to a Tesla server, wait for a while and then view the result directly on my tablet. Efficient. Fast. Convenient. (Also, they now considering nvidia GRID servers).

Second thing, Tesla will never work with Thunderbolt port, trust me, when you work with Tesla, you don't want any intermediate between CPU/Chipset/Bridge and GPU, their are driver issues, and simply, it has never been tried before I guess.

Thunderbolt port has no utility unless you are willing to spend large amount of money on Thunderbolt/Intel certified peripherals , and even Displayport can daisy chain displays. Or unless you want to use custom cards from AVID and RED...(or an external gpu solution xD ).


Edit: To the thread starter, if you really want an upgradable system which is present in India, go for Alienware 17 base. 145K with 860M. Standard MXM slot with accidental damage protection and 1 year warranty.

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

Actually, I don't think anyone will buy Tesla for themselves(Unless they are totally into research and have a huge government grants). It took my University four months to decide if they want to buy Teslas or not.
In the end they did, and it was like 30L ? for 12 of them.
Let me tell you the Typical scenario we follow with Tesla. I use a Windows tablet, upload the task remotely to a Tesla server, wait for a while and then view the result directly on my tablet. Efficient. Fast. Convenient. (Also, they now considering nvidia GRID servers).

Second thing, Tesla will never work with Thunderbolt port, trust me, when you work with Tesla, you don't want any intermediate between CPU/Chipset/Bridge and GPU, their are driver issues, and simply, it has never been tried before I guess.

Thunderbolt port has no utility unless you are willing to spend large amount of money on Thunderbolt port certified peripherals , and even Displayport can daisy chain displays. Or unless you want to use custom cards from AVID and RED...(or an external gpu solution xD ).


Edit: To the thread starter, if you really want an upgradable system which is present in India, go for Alienware 17 base model present in India. 145K with 860M. Standard MXM slot with accidental damage protection and 1 year warranty.

A Big NO! I don't need tesla, or thunderbolt(I know how expensive these devices are)!

 

[SaiyanGoku]

I am creating a comparison between Sager and Dell and will reply with that soon. I'm also looking at the presence of SAGER Brand in India.

Meanwhile, Should I consider this laptop. It was just released around a month ago(I guess). It is based on the design of GS60 GhostPro but is made as a workstation rather than a gaming laptop.

Update:
I like it very much. It's sleek, light and beautiful, so i am also willing to settle on lower specs(Processor). The only thing I am concerned about is heating issues. I have heard that the heat produced in a laptop can actually melt the components inside. If that's the case then I'll be in trouble as I won't get service for this laptop in India though warranty is relatively great(1 year global and accidental damage)

you can configure the clevo one to have better specs at the same price compared to this one.

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

ALienware is a no, again the weight issue...The laptop has to be less that 3Kg...I need it to be portable...The key reason I am eyeing MSI

 

[kunalgujarathi]

ALienware is a no, again the weight issue...The laptop has to be less that 3Kg...I need it to be portable...The key reason I am eyeing MSI

If you want portability!
Then there are only two workstation class ultrabooks-
ZBook 13/15 And Dell Precision M3800!

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

I compiled a list and gave every config rankings accordingly, Please do tell me about any pointers/config I should add and/or change the rankings in the chart.

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If you want portability!
Then there are only two workstation class ultrabooks-
ZBook 13/15 And Dell Precision M3800!

[MENTION=266361]kunalgujarathi[/MENTION] Zbook--too expensive, I am looking at dell 4800 instead of 3800.

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you can configure the clevo one to have better specs at the same price compared to this one.

Yes, but MSI offers great portability, that's why I am considering MSI.

 

[seamon]

I compiled a list and gave every config rankings accordingly, Please do tell me about any pointers/config I should add and/or change the rankings in the chart.

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[MENTION=266361]kunalgujarathi[/MENTION] Zbook--too expensive, I am looking at dell 4800 instead of 3800.

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Yes, but MSI offers great portability, that's why I am considering MSI.

Can't see attachment. Upload somewhere else.

 

[shubhamgarg55583]

Here, It's on google drive now.

 

[SaiyanGoku]

Giving 5 more points just for around 1kg lesser weight?

Carrying 3 kgs laptop in bag isn't a big deal.