Its offtopic but let me say it. Around 7 years ago, I joined this forum to get VFM PC config. A member named Choto Cheeta (His real name was Saurav Basu from Kolkata) along with other members were very helpful and open hearted in giving suggestions. Infact I remember those days when I was really crazy about overclocking and choto cheeta came to my city (Ahmedabad) just to teach/show me overclocking. We went to 4Ghz on air on Intel Core 2 Duo E6750. That was real fun. I don’t know why, but after few months this guy disappeared from everywhere. No contacts since then. I wonder if any forum member from Kolkata is in touch with him, Pls message me as I am really curious to know what happened to him.
Anyways this is just a whole hearted thanks call to all those forum members helped me 7 years ago. That configuration ran successfully and smoothly without any issues so far. Thanks to Digit Forum. Its still running like a bull, technology keep moving forward and sadly there is no country for old men, expiry is destiny. Its time to move with time. I did my best to search that old post of mine but forum links are changed now.
Coming back to the topic, Few days back one of my friend asked for 35k budget pc. After reading replies and many other forum posts, I have finalized few things for my new PC. Let me answer questions first.
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:I do new experiments on daily basis, like Installing/Running memory and cpu intensive applications in HOST and Guest (Virtual) OS, Making Ram Drives to test speed of various installations.
To define #My_Usage, I can say…
Lots of multitasking simultaneously at a given time like…
3+ Firefox windows with 20+ tabs in each,
3+ Chrome Windows with 20+ tabs each with continuous streaming data,
Yahoo Messenger with tons of message windows,
Outlook & MS Office Apps,
Stock market charting tools which are java based and others softwares like Diet Odin,
Photo & Vector editing tools like Photoshop CC and Corel (NO hardcore video editing or 3D),
Virtual PC for guest OS,
High resolution Full HD movies
and Sometimes Autocad.
It is not the case that these tasks are always running whenever I am working, but possibility is such that these tasks may be required to run simultaneously. To be on safer side, I have listed most of them, but I cant predict the future
PC will be running 14 hours a day and sometimes 24x7
No Gaming, No Overclocking.
2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 20 to 25k for processor (nothing more than that)
3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No, No more
4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win 7 SP1 Ultimate or WIN 9/10 if it releases soon)
5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: No hard drive needed. I purchased 2 TB sata 3.
6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: I will go with Dell S2240L for now, will upgrade once I get 27” in 1444p in decent price
7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: HDD, Cabinet, SSD, Monitor, Motherboard(?), RAM, Keyboard, Mouse, Speaker, DVD RW
8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: ASAP if nothing mind blowing releasing soon
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I have an assembler friend.
10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Ahmedabad, Local + Online shopping is fine.
11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Yes, I am looking for best performing processor for #My_Usage posted above.
After reading lots of posts and suggestions made on this and other forum posts, I have prepared my final configuration, which is…
Cabinet : Deepcool Tesseract
good features in a great price, decent cooling, finalized and purchased.
CPU : I have questions for this, pls see below.
#Mobo : Gigabyte B85M-D3H Motherboard
I have heard a lot about this mobo in forum, infact someone said it’s a forum’s stapled mobo, Great features in very decent price, It supports almost every latest processor (1150 sockets) including Xeon’s. I have few questions regarding this, see below.
CPU Cooler : SunBeam Core-Contact freezer with 120mm
7 years old, still running without any issues, Even fan is healthy with good airflow.
SSD : Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB SATA III SSD
I will install win7 sp1 ultimate + softwares mentioned in #My_Usage + Virtual PC with another win7 sp1 ultimate + Lots of data files in small sizes (I was suggested for 120gb 840 evo, but I think that will be insufficient for #My_Usage)
RAM : 16 GB
I know 16GB is more than enough. I have to allot some ram for virtual pc. I heard that Samsung magician latest version allows 4GB ram to be included to run in RAPID MODE and so to be on safer side, 16gb selected. Though I have questions regarding this, see below.
HDD : Seagate 2TB Desktop Internal Sata Drive ST2000DM001
purchased, got cheap deal @ 4.8k + 5% cash back
PSU : Antec vp450p
Monitor : Dell s2240l
Keyboard : TVS Gold
I am addicted with this one, any other similar button tap sound keyboard available with similar or greater quality ?
Mouse : Pls suggest some good quality mouse in decent price which lasts longer and smooth operation.
DVD RW : Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W
No graphics card included as I don’t want to play games now.
My work requires consistent performance and speed, it matters the most. Computer should not get slow or should not hang no matter if it runs for 24x7.
Few questions and confusions:
1. I am not going to play games now, but if in future (Mood Ban Gaya to
) Will I be able to add high end discrete graphics card in this #Mobo ?
2. #Mobo has inbuilt graphics? I mean if we add a processor without integrated graphics, will I get display ?
3. Do I really need 16GB of ram for #My_Usage + Virtual PC + Magician Rapid Mode ?
4. For RAM, which one is better … 4x4GB or 2x8GB ? Why ? #Mobo supports quad channel ?
5. Which RAM is better 4GB 1600Mhz CL9 Latency 9-9-9-24 or 8GB 1600Mhz CL10 Latency 10-10-10-27 or 10-10-10-30, I understand that in real world latency doesn’t matters a lot user hardly see any difference, but for the benchmark sake Pls do me a favour & mention the model number or LINK. It is really confusing to select the right one, RAM specs says things like quad channel ram (and I thought only mobo has such dual channel and quad channel features), lots of confusion in selecting ram. I will be happy with Corsair Vengeance series or Gskill Ripjaws X.
6. I heard about RAM Drives long ago, Are there any such drives available in India to replace SSDs. Now a days M.2 gathering attention, whats this …. A ram drive or SSD with more speeds ?
7. Antec vp450p PSU can handle this config ? I will add one more 2TB HDD in near future.
8. Any good HDMI cable ? Are there any difference between cables costing 200rs vs 1200rs or just a brand and marketing gimmick ?
Finally, The Processor
I am looking for Quad Core (or more core if available or going to be available in near future) Intel CPU. I did read lots of forum posts regarding intel xeons (1230v3 & 1246v3) i5s (4440,4570,4690) and i7s (4770 etc) and by reading so many posts I realized that since I am not going to overclock I don’t need those K ones like 4690K (is it so ?). Now for the rest of the latest 4[SUP]th[/SUP] generation processors I am not able to figure out the best one for #My_Usage + (possibility of future gaming, ofcourse with high end gfx card)
I feel even i5 4440 (available at 11k) has enough power to handle #My_Usage then why to invest more for processors like xeon 1246v3 (18k) or i7 4770 (20k). But if it is worth, I have a budget of 20k for only CPU and I can pull it more.
Here I am stuck with price performance ratio and unable to calculate it as per #My_Usage.
How much performance difference in cpu with 4 threads vs cpu with 8 threads (hyper threading), are there any real world differences on day to day working.
Are there any OCTA-CORE Intel CPUs coming in very near future ? Should I wait ?
If you feel that any of the above mentioned components are not fit for this config, pls do mention.
Atlast, thanks to current and old members of this forum. Oh yeah, it was too lengthy post, but hey its once in a 7 years (for my own pc
)
Waiting for the responses.
Anyways this is just a whole hearted thanks call to all those forum members helped me 7 years ago. That configuration ran successfully and smoothly without any issues so far. Thanks to Digit Forum. Its still running like a bull, technology keep moving forward and sadly there is no country for old men, expiry is destiny. Its time to move with time. I did my best to search that old post of mine but forum links are changed now.
Coming back to the topic, Few days back one of my friend asked for 35k budget pc. After reading replies and many other forum posts, I have finalized few things for my new PC. Let me answer questions first.
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:I do new experiments on daily basis, like Installing/Running memory and cpu intensive applications in HOST and Guest (Virtual) OS, Making Ram Drives to test speed of various installations.
To define #My_Usage, I can say…
Lots of multitasking simultaneously at a given time like…
3+ Firefox windows with 20+ tabs in each,
3+ Chrome Windows with 20+ tabs each with continuous streaming data,
Yahoo Messenger with tons of message windows,
Outlook & MS Office Apps,
Stock market charting tools which are java based and others softwares like Diet Odin,
Photo & Vector editing tools like Photoshop CC and Corel (NO hardcore video editing or 3D),
Virtual PC for guest OS,
High resolution Full HD movies
and Sometimes Autocad.
It is not the case that these tasks are always running whenever I am working, but possibility is such that these tasks may be required to run simultaneously. To be on safer side, I have listed most of them, but I cant predict the future
PC will be running 14 hours a day and sometimes 24x7
No Gaming, No Overclocking.
2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 20 to 25k for processor (nothing more than that)
3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No, No more
4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win 7 SP1 Ultimate or WIN 9/10 if it releases soon)
5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: No hard drive needed. I purchased 2 TB sata 3.
6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: I will go with Dell S2240L for now, will upgrade once I get 27” in 1444p in decent price
7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: HDD, Cabinet, SSD, Monitor, Motherboard(?), RAM, Keyboard, Mouse, Speaker, DVD RW
8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: ASAP if nothing mind blowing releasing soon
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I have an assembler friend.
10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Ahmedabad, Local + Online shopping is fine.
11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Yes, I am looking for best performing processor for #My_Usage posted above.
After reading lots of posts and suggestions made on this and other forum posts, I have prepared my final configuration, which is…
Cabinet : Deepcool Tesseract
good features in a great price, decent cooling, finalized and purchased.
CPU : I have questions for this, pls see below.
#Mobo : Gigabyte B85M-D3H Motherboard
I have heard a lot about this mobo in forum, infact someone said it’s a forum’s stapled mobo, Great features in very decent price, It supports almost every latest processor (1150 sockets) including Xeon’s. I have few questions regarding this, see below.
CPU Cooler : SunBeam Core-Contact freezer with 120mm
7 years old, still running without any issues, Even fan is healthy with good airflow.
SSD : Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB SATA III SSD
I will install win7 sp1 ultimate + softwares mentioned in #My_Usage + Virtual PC with another win7 sp1 ultimate + Lots of data files in small sizes (I was suggested for 120gb 840 evo, but I think that will be insufficient for #My_Usage)
RAM : 16 GB
I know 16GB is more than enough. I have to allot some ram for virtual pc. I heard that Samsung magician latest version allows 4GB ram to be included to run in RAPID MODE and so to be on safer side, 16gb selected. Though I have questions regarding this, see below.
HDD : Seagate 2TB Desktop Internal Sata Drive ST2000DM001
purchased, got cheap deal @ 4.8k + 5% cash back
PSU : Antec vp450p
Monitor : Dell s2240l
Keyboard : TVS Gold
I am addicted with this one, any other similar button tap sound keyboard available with similar or greater quality ?
Mouse : Pls suggest some good quality mouse in decent price which lasts longer and smooth operation.
DVD RW : Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W
No graphics card included as I don’t want to play games now.
My work requires consistent performance and speed, it matters the most. Computer should not get slow or should not hang no matter if it runs for 24x7.
Few questions and confusions:
1. I am not going to play games now, but if in future (Mood Ban Gaya to
) Will I be able to add high end discrete graphics card in this #Mobo ?2. #Mobo has inbuilt graphics? I mean if we add a processor without integrated graphics, will I get display ?
3. Do I really need 16GB of ram for #My_Usage + Virtual PC + Magician Rapid Mode ?
4. For RAM, which one is better … 4x4GB or 2x8GB ? Why ? #Mobo supports quad channel ?
5. Which RAM is better 4GB 1600Mhz CL9 Latency 9-9-9-24 or 8GB 1600Mhz CL10 Latency 10-10-10-27 or 10-10-10-30, I understand that in real world latency doesn’t matters a lot user hardly see any difference, but for the benchmark sake Pls do me a favour & mention the model number or LINK. It is really confusing to select the right one, RAM specs says things like quad channel ram (and I thought only mobo has such dual channel and quad channel features), lots of confusion in selecting ram. I will be happy with Corsair Vengeance series or Gskill Ripjaws X.
6. I heard about RAM Drives long ago, Are there any such drives available in India to replace SSDs. Now a days M.2 gathering attention, whats this …. A ram drive or SSD with more speeds ?
7. Antec vp450p PSU can handle this config ? I will add one more 2TB HDD in near future.
8. Any good HDMI cable ? Are there any difference between cables costing 200rs vs 1200rs or just a brand and marketing gimmick ?
Finally, The Processor
I am looking for Quad Core (or more core if available or going to be available in near future) Intel CPU. I did read lots of forum posts regarding intel xeons (1230v3 & 1246v3) i5s (4440,4570,4690) and i7s (4770 etc) and by reading so many posts I realized that since I am not going to overclock I don’t need those K ones like 4690K (is it so ?). Now for the rest of the latest 4[SUP]th[/SUP] generation processors I am not able to figure out the best one for #My_Usage + (possibility of future gaming, ofcourse with high end gfx card)
I feel even i5 4440 (available at 11k) has enough power to handle #My_Usage then why to invest more for processors like xeon 1246v3 (18k) or i7 4770 (20k). But if it is worth, I have a budget of 20k for only CPU and I can pull it more.
Here I am stuck with price performance ratio and unable to calculate it as per #My_Usage.
How much performance difference in cpu with 4 threads vs cpu with 8 threads (hyper threading), are there any real world differences on day to day working.
Are there any OCTA-CORE Intel CPUs coming in very near future ? Should I wait ?
If you feel that any of the above mentioned components are not fit for this config, pls do mention.
Atlast, thanks to current and old members of this forum. Oh yeah, it was too lengthy post, but hey its once in a 7 years (for my own pc
)Waiting for the responses.
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