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Better laptop package (geforce GT830m vs geforce GT740m) 2GB each.Confused.

vishnov

Journeyman
I am getting 2GB GeForce GT740m in HP Pavilion 15-n208tx it got Intel i5 4200u processor
and other is in HP Pavilion 15-p001tx providing 2GB GeForce GT830m and having Intel 4210u processor and beats audio. All other specs are more or less similar. Which one you feel is better me? I am college student would be using it for Adobe Illustrator, After Effects, Dreamweaver etc. I'll be also using it for some pretty serious gaming. Which laptop you think has better gpu abilities?? Please recommend. (I'll be buying amongst these two laptops only, so questionnaire seems unnecessary.)
 

powerhoney

Cyborg Agent
Well, first of all, avoid those ulv processors... But, since you stated that you'll be buying from those two, i5 4210u is marginally better than the 4200u...
About the graphics cards, they are both almost of the same level, give or take 1 or 2 fps here and there...
 

Hrishi

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Performance wise ( official benchmarks , and test ) the GT830m is having a small upper hand over the old 740m , but it's very marginal difference and will depend a lot on the fact that at what configuration it is being sold for.( DDR3 / Core Clock Speed ,etc )

Still saying that , it's not a very powerful GPU for high end games , but will suffice for most of the games that do not requires very high-end graphics.
For graphic computing applications , it should suffice.
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I would like to second what [MENTION=139494]powerhoney[/MENTION] said in the above post.
Also when it comes to choosing a processor , I would highly insist on not choosing a laptop with ULV CPU if performance in your top priority. ULVs are targeted towards efficiency and battery lasting time.
ULV CPU should be your last option , if rest other options are not budget friendly.

In most cases , an ULV CPU will give much lesser performance than a fully blown laptop CPU. At least , for gaming an ULV CPU is a big no. They will be a big bottleneck.
 

kkn13

Cyber Genius FTW
+1000 to z510,hp isnt worth at that price range for that sorta build and keyboard
it isnt bad but hps keyboards have really tiny keys compared to lenovos offerings or even dells
z510 is a delightful laptop for gaming and cools pretty well as well

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note the arrow keys to see my point
 

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
+1000 to z510,hp isnt worth at that price range for that sorta build and keyboard
it isnt bad but hps keyboards have really tiny keys compared to lenovos offerings or even dells
z510 is a delightful laptop for gaming and cools pretty well as well

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note the arrow keys to see my point

The arrow keys used by HP is becoming somewhat of a standard in the 14" gaming laptop category. Even Razer Blade(laptop with the best build quality) uses that style.
But still, Lenovo is better as long as overall build quality is concerned.
 

kkn13

Cyber Genius FTW
The arrow keys used by HP is becoming somewhat of a standard in the 14" gaming laptop category. Even Razer Blade(laptop with the best build quality) uses that style.
But still, Lenovo is better as long as overall build quality is concerned.

yeah thats true,i prefer bigger arrow and other keys -chiclet ones only
 
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vishnov

vishnov

Journeyman
Well, first of all, avoid those ulv processors... But, since you stated that you'll be buying from those two, i5 4210u is marginally better than the 4200u...
About the graphics cards, they are both almost of the same level, give or take 1 or 2 fps here and there...
[MENTION=139494]powerhoney[/MENTION] are ulv's that bad when it comes to performance? so, you are telling me to avoid laptops with variant like i5 4210U and go for laptops with variants i5 4200M ?? (as in case of lenovo z510). forgive me if i'm stating 'em wrong!

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[MENTION=140405]Hrishi[/MENTION] so you recommend laptops with chipset variants like "4200M" and not "4210U" ??? forgive me if i'm stating them wrong..

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The arrow keys used by HP is becoming somewhat of a standard in the 14" gaming laptop category. Even Razer Blade(laptop with the best build quality) uses that style.
But still, Lenovo is better as long as overall build quality is concerned.

also i heard z510 screen is not upto the mark. i know its not full HD, but even still, how good it is?? website says its "1920 x 1080 Pixel Slim 15.6 HD LED Anti-Glare"..even it's webcam is not FHD. I will also use it for occasional video conferencing too, that's why. how is it's video quality?? did you ever happen to come across this laptop and saw these things with your own eyes?? (Sorry, i ask a lot of questions!)
 
Z510 has anti glare display, though 1366x768 resolution.

Camera would be 720p one.
Z510 has 1GB DDR3 GT740M, which is good for most gaming. 2GB is better, that's sure.

DDR3 & GDDR3 are same, you'll find performance difference if its GDDR5 version of the same card

And ULVs are not recommended. Go with i5 4200M variant or similar ones. Check for the "M" at the end of CPU model name & not "U"
 

rish1

Cyborg Agent
is the warranty offered by lenovo covers ADP ?

if no then buy HP only as they are giving 3 years onsite ADP by paying 2k extra .. that gives it alone the super duper status...

ADP is awesome.. when i was in the service centre the guy showed me a laptop that was literally Bent from the middle and was in U shaped .. completely shattered and crushed as it had come under a car .. he got a brand new lappy in front of me..

even i am thinking of selling my lappy just for The ADP .. plus like you know it , Lenovo ASS is just crappy and pathetic... compared to HP/Dell Class of service

is dell also providing the same offer ?

yup that arrow key is a problem when playing games... its a single key divided into 2 but i remap those to the numeric keys ..
 
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Hrishi

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[MENTION=139494]powerhoney[/MENTION] are ulv's that bad when it comes to performance? so, you are telling me to avoid laptops with variant like i5 4210U and go for laptops with variants i5 4200M ?? (as in case of lenovo z510). forgive me if i'm stating 'em wrong!

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[MENTION=140405]Hrishi[/MENTION] so you recommend laptops with chipset variants like "4200M" and not "4210U" ??? forgive me if i'm stating them wrong..

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also i heard z510 screen is not upto the mark. i know its not full HD, but even still, how good it is?? website says its "1920 x 1080 Pixel Slim 15.6 HD LED Anti-Glare"..even it's webcam is not FHD. I will also use it for occasional video conferencing too, that's why. how is it's video quality?? did you ever happen to come across this laptop and saw these things with your own eyes?? (Sorry, i ask a lot of questions!)

Yes , you comprehended it correctly.
 

powerhoney

Cyborg Agent
Nvidia N14P-GV2 is the codename for the NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M.

You don't need 2 GB memory for the GT 740M.

All the GT740M's in India are the slow 64 bit-DDR3 type.

Website is wrong. It does not have Full HD screen.

The i5 4210 U's performance will be similar to the i3 3130M and even lower than the i3 4000M in some usage cases. So, you get the drift, right???
The ULV processors are not meant for performance but for good battery life.

You want the best screen on a budget??? Go get yourself a Y510p!!! :p
 

powerhoney

Cyborg Agent
when i was in the service centre the guy showed me a laptop that was literally Bent from the middle and was in U shaped .. completely shattered and crushed as it had come under a car .. he got a brand new lappy in front of me..

Who does that to a laptop??? Was he making a movie or something??? Indian version of Jackass, maybe???
 
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vishnov

vishnov

Journeyman
[MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION] [MENTION=139494]powerhoney[/MENTION] [MENTION=138559]rish[/MENTION] [MENTION=140405]Hrishi[/MENTION]

One final question to you guys... which one would you recommend???


1.Lenovo Z510 (59-405848) [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-4200M, Win8.1, 4GB RAM, N14P-GV2 DDR3 1GB] priced at 49k.

2.Lenovo Z500 (59-380463) [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3230M, Win8, 6GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2GB] priced at 48k.

3.HP Pavilion 15 p001TX [4th Gen Intel Core i5-4210U, Win8.1, 4GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GT 830M 2GB] priced 49k.

4.HP Pavilion G6-2304TX [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3230M, Win8, 8GB RAM, AMD Mobility Radeon HD 7670M 2GB] priced at 48k.

5.HP Pavilion M4-1003TX [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3230M, Win8, 6GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 730M 2GB] priced at 48.5k.



I know it's tiresome reading n comparing them. but please suggest me one please. Which one would you buy?? If not amongst them, then which one?? PLZ guys.. Thank you for your patience and time.

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Who does that to a laptop??? Was he making a movie or something??? Indian version of Jackass, maybe???

he might be a jackass himself!!:-D

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Nvidia N14P-GV2 is the codename for the NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M.

You don't need 2 GB memory for the GT 740M.

All the GT740M's in India are the slow 64 bit-DDR3 type.

Website is wrong. It does not have Full HD screen.

The i5 4210 U's performance will be similar to the i3 3130M and even lower than the i3 4000M in some usage cases. So, you get the drift, right???
The ULV processors are not meant for performance but for good battery life.

You want the best screen on a budget??? Go get yourself a Y510p!!! :p

OK, i understand, ULV's are a BIG no and i love y510p absolutely, but that being said, it's a bit out of my allocated budget almost by 8-10k.
 

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
[MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION] [MENTION=139494]powerhoney[/MENTION] [MENTION=138559]rish[/MENTION] [MENTION=140405]Hrishi[/MENTION]

One final question to you guys... which one would you recommend???


1.Lenovo Z510 (59-405848) [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-4200M, Win8.1, 4GB RAM, N14P-GV2 DDR3 1GB] priced at 49k.

2.Lenovo Z500 (59-380463) [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3230M, Win8, 6GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2GB] priced at 48k.

3.HP Pavilion 15 p001TX [4th Gen Intel Core i5-4210U, Win8.1, 4GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GT 830M 2GB] priced 49k.

4.HP Pavilion G6-2304TX [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3230M, Win8, 8GB RAM, AMD Mobility Radeon HD 7670M 2GB] priced at 48k.

5.HP Pavilion M4-1003TX [3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3230M, Win8, 6GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 730M 2GB] priced at 48.5k.



I know it's tiresome reading n comparing them. but please suggest me one please. Which one would you buy?? If not amongst them, then which one?? PLZ guys.. Thank you for your patience and time.

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he might be a jackass himself!!:-D

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OK, i understand, ULV's are a BIG no and i love y510p absolutely, but that being said, it's a bit out of my allocated budget almost by 8-10k.

Go for 2. The performance difference between IVB and Haswell isn't much.
 
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