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Guys...for my kind of usage...do i really need a discrete graphics card??.. Can an integrated GPU handle the video watching task...so that I can avoid heating issues..
I was really taken back by the looks of 15R SE....really cheap looking for that kind of price...also the keypad is relatively small and handrest area is huge when compared to the size of the laptop..not to mention its lacking numerical keypad as well...But the specs are awesome...
With the lack of numerical keypad..i might as well go for the 14R SE..? or any other 14 inch models from other brands?
I was really taken back by the looks of 15R SE....really cheap looking for that kind of price...also the keypad is relatively small and handrest area is huge when compared to the size of the laptop..not to mention its lacking numerical keypad as well...But the specs are awesome...
With the lack of numerical keypad..i might as well go for the 14R SE..? or any other 14 inch models from other brands?
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how about this model...is it VFM
SVE14117GN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
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A big no!! it is a dual core-i7 laptop in such a high price tag. It has a normal HD screen with no integrated graphics. Very very over priced!
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A big no!! it is a dual core-i7 laptop in such a high price tag. It has a normal HD screen with no integrated graphics. Very very over priced!
oh..how come i dint notice it was dual core i7..
well..my hunt is still on....HP or Lenovo can save me...
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oh..how come i dint notice it was dual core i7..
well..my hunt is still on....HP or Lenovo can save me...
HP Pavilion DV6-7010TX is currently the best option for you, people are avoiding because it has not that good GPU as new inspiron has. hp has nice chiclet style full keyboard price is about 58-60k in the market with ivy bridge core-i7 and GT 630M. New models are coming next month with 35W processor and better integrated graphics to compete inspiron 15R SE.
If you are talking about lenovo Thinkpads, I will say yes they are good but wait for sometime.. the new ivy bridge models not came yet. Don't think about ideapads they are waste of money.
Also take a look on new ivy bridge's HP ProBook 4540s. It has no integrated graphics but awesomely design to use for long with upto 7 hours of battery life.
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great info buddy... keep us updated like this....
well..as u said i'm willing to wait for a month...to check out HP and Lenovo
And ...i found this now..
SVE15118FN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
35w 3rd gen i7 with 4 cores.. ATI radeon 7650 ?? 4 GB ram...
seems pretty decent ... is it VFM..price similar to 15 R @rider..need your thoughts.. you seem to pick the disadv of any model in a flash...
well..as u said i'm willing to wait for a month...to check out HP and Lenovo
And ...i found this now..
SVE15118FN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
35w 3rd gen i7 with 4 cores.. ATI radeon 7650 ?? 4 GB ram...
seems pretty decent ... is it VFM..price similar to 15 R @rider..need your thoughts..
you seem to pick the disadv of any model in a flash...
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great info buddy... keep us updated like this....
well..as u said i'm willing to wait for a month...to check out HP and Lenovo
And ...i found this now..
SVE15118FN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
35w 3rd gen i7 with 4 cores.. ATI radeon 7650 ?? 4 GB ram...
seems pretty decent ... is it VFM..price similar to 15 R @rider..need your thoughts..
It's a nice laptop, It's only good if you are not much in gaming because you can not expect to play latest games in medium or high settings with HD 7650M. Also little heavy 2.7kg!! and only upto 2.5hrs of battery. Inspiron15R SE is more VFM with its powerful HD 7730M upto 4hrs of battery and 1 year damage protection warranty. Better to wait for new hp models.
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I dont know why you are after ideapads.If you are saying their build quality is not good then I don't agree with you.As for ASS of lenovo it might be different in different regions.Lenovo Y570 had good built quality.It had one of the best keyboards.JBL speaker was nice.They had a different version of gt555m which was less powerful than the other versions but was still faster than dGpu provided by other laptops in that price range barring HP6121/6165/6017/6140tx
models.I agree that on some of its budget models like its G series don't have that bright display.But we cant say that would be the case always.
Commenting about a company's RMA/ASS in a region is ok, but generalizing your
perceptions I don't think so.Generally all laptops have their share of negatives.Not everything is perfect.
If people keep on generalizing and say things like "Hp is crap,heats a lot"
"Lenovo has crap built quality" "Sony Vaio laptops are overpriced" etc.
then why do people wait for new products, why do reviewers review it.
Things have changed with HP laptops regarding heating issues.Sony provides the cheapest possible full hd laptops.Exceptions are there everywhere.Nothing is constant.
I think it would be better to wait for product reviews than saying things like this.
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Where I said anything about lenovo build quality.
I said coz there service is horrible in north region.What are you saying, bro?
Those hp laptops are with HD 6770M and in benchmarks and HD 6770M (hp version) = GT 555M (alineware version)
e.g.
3D Mark HD 6770M = 1350
3D Mark GT 555M = 1370
The that lenovo model is very downgraded version of GT 555M so much worse in gaming performance. Ask anyone in hp dv6 forum.
And for vaio cheap models, they are still overpriced.. they are still with lowest performing graphic cards in their budget and completely plastic built,even the touchpad, I saw in 55k cb series laptop.
Last year hp was providing cheapest 1080p model for 49-50k, with metallic finish.. now the whole series get discontinued soon replacing by new models.
No laptop is perfect, I know but priorities makes to choose laptops.
For today, dell inspiron special editions are real VFM, read previous comments the user don't want to buy that as it has no full-keyboard.
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@rider
Read my lines properly.I said it was a downgraded gt555m and it was slower than the dGPU in HP 6165tx models.
But it was still faster than gt540m offered in dell laptops then.Dell offered gt555m but that was in xps which was priced more.
I dont think hd6630m is that bad a graphic card.
Sony Vaio offered full hd models with decent graphics in sub-50k price here.
I dont think HP offered any full hd model in that price range with that decent a graphic card in India.
And "plastic" doesn't mean bad built quality.
My friends with hp 3043tx suffered from heating issues.It was real bad.Had to replace some parts.But HP didn't pay for that.So should i start saying that
"HP laptops are a waste of money".
As for ASS it varies from region to region.
So there's no point in saying that a thing is "crap" or "waste of money"
@ @ndroid_rocks
At this moment the dell inspiron 15r special edition are the one to go for.They come with preinstalled WIN7 that you need.Other models from hp have also arrived with preinstalled win7 but they are priced higher for what they offer.
Else if you can wait then look for newer models from different brands.In two months time many newer models would have arrived.
Read my lines properly.I said it was a downgraded gt555m and it was slower than the dGPU in HP 6165tx models.
But it was still faster than gt540m offered in dell laptops then.Dell offered gt555m but that was in xps which was priced more.
I dont think hd6630m is that bad a graphic card.
Sony Vaio offered full hd models with decent graphics in sub-50k price here.
I dont think HP offered any full hd model in that price range with that decent a graphic card in India.
And "plastic" doesn't mean bad built quality.
My friends with hp 3043tx suffered from heating issues.It was real bad.Had to replace some parts.But HP didn't pay for that.So should i start saying that
"HP laptops are a waste of money".
As for ASS it varies from region to region.
So there's no point in saying that a thing is "crap" or "waste of money"
@ @ndroid_rocks
At this moment the dell inspiron 15r special edition are the one to go for.They come with preinstalled WIN7 that you need.Other models from hp have also arrived with preinstalled win7 but they are priced higher for what they offer.
Else if you can wait then look for newer models from different brands.In two months time many newer models would have arrived.
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The build quality of Lenovo is not good, you won't experience that in the starting but you will get to know that after 1-2yrs down the line.
If you want to know more about its ASS then I think google will help you better, I can only tell you what I have experienced.
Though some years back Lenovo laptops were good in terms of build quality but the time has changed these days, the same is the case with Toshiba.
I only comment on things which I have experienced, some other people say that just after reading reviews or just reading it from somewhere.
If you don't believe me then go on and buy a Lenovo dude.We don't have any problem.
What we do here is we suggest people what is best in their budget from what we have experienced.
Lenovo battery gets kaput sooner than the dell inspirons also.
There are a lot of other things too.
Please take the help of Mr. google for the same.
It is possible that it(Lenovo ASS) is good in your region but if see it other cities it is bad almost everywhere as I have experienced the same in many cities of Punjab,UP and Delhi too.
The build quality of Lenovo is not good, you won't experience that in the starting but you will get to know that after 1-2yrs down the line.
If you want to know more about its ASS then I think google will help you better, I can only tell you what I have experienced.
Though some years back Lenovo laptops were good in terms of build quality but the time has changed these days, the same is the case with Toshiba.
I only comment on things which I have experienced, some other people say that just after reading reviews or just reading it from somewhere.
If you don't believe me then go on and buy a Lenovo dude.We don't have any problem.
What we do here is we suggest people what is best in their budget from what we have experienced.
Lenovo battery gets kaput sooner than the dell inspirons also.
There are a lot of other things too.
Please take the help of Mr. google for the same.
It is possible that it(Lenovo ASS) is good in your region but if see it other cities it is bad almost everywhere as I have experienced the same in many cities of Punjab,UP and Delhi too.
@aroraanant
Look not every model is same.Not every model uses same battery.My friend's Y570 is nearly one year old and i can say that he has faced no problems till now.Same goes with z570.Similarly Hp had heating issues with most of their dv6 laptops once.But things have changed.My friends are using hp6121tx,6165tx and other pavilion models(dv6 and g-series) and i can say you that they remain quite cool and provide decent battery life.
Lenovo last generation G-series dont have that bright display.But last year's y-series and z-series have good enough built quality.
And why should I buy a lenovo laptop when i have enough experience from my friends' laptops.
My point here is why not wait for newer generations of laptops than commenting before it has even arrived.
Look not every model is same.Not every model uses same battery.My friend's Y570 is nearly one year old and i can say that he has faced no problems till now.Same goes with z570.Similarly Hp had heating issues with most of their dv6 laptops once.But things have changed.My friends are using hp6121tx,6165tx and other pavilion models(dv6 and g-series) and i can say you that they remain quite cool and provide decent battery life.
Lenovo last generation G-series dont have that bright display.But last year's y-series and z-series have good enough built quality.
And why should I buy a lenovo laptop when i have enough experience from my friends' laptops.
My point here is why not wait for newer generations of laptops than commenting before it has even arrived.
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hp 3043tx is an old bad model, nowadays hp is providing awesome ASS and free damage protection warranty for a year. All parts are replaceable if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions.
It's your money buy a lenovo ideapad. If you regret it, remember we warned you.
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That's nice to hear
And I'd have to agree too, the Lenovo Ideapad build quality is definitely sub par. Even most review sites agree.
That's nice to hear
And I'd have to agree too, the Lenovo Ideapad build quality is definitely sub par. Even most review sites agree.
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if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions.
Which region are you from ?
hp 3043tx is an old bad model, nowadays hp is providing awesome ASS and free damage protection warranty for a year. All parts are replaceable if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions.
^^nice to read that.
One year before that their was nothing like that from HP.
Now this year Lenovo is providing 1 Year Accidental Damage Protection.
when i have to buy i will buy by selecting what best suits my needs.I wont buy looking at brands.Instead I will read some reviews(users' and reviewers'),look at the ASS of the company in my area and then take decision.
My point is that there is simply no need of commenting crap stuffs when newer products haven't even arrived.
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