BE(IT) vs BE(CSE) vs BCA/MCA vs BSc/MSc(CS)

[confused]

Thanks. THATS the type of answer I am looking for.

And btw, If I end up with a Mechanical seat in an NIT and an IT/CS seat in another collage, can I do Mech and then do MCA through correspondance ? Is it worth it ?

And how is DA-IICT ? *www.da-iict.org/ I have applied for their B.Tech in ICT program. Is it a good choice ? How hard is it to get selected there ?

you gotta clear aieee with a rank within 10k (max, 8k will be a safer bet) to get there.....and thats quite tough, almost like clearing iitjee....
but overall there are lots of better institutes than DAIICT.....namely NITs(the top 7-8)/BITS-pilani campus/BIT/NSIT-DCE/PEC/Anna,etc

 

[MetalheadGautham]

I will definitely try my best to make it to top 5000 to have a chance of getting cs/it in nit, but daiict is a backup option if I end up getting 9000th rank and b.tech(textile technology)

 

[Phantom Lancer]

^^

Its wrong.... some ranking may say it... but truth is not...

My info was outdated actually not wrong .... rankings change yearly

What ? Anna University is higher placed than NITs ?
How do I apply for it ? I am a resident of karnataka for 10 years but my mom is native and has done all her degrees from TN.

Rankings keep varying year by year ........ as per 2008 rankings NIT s were placed before Anna Univ ....... My last info was 2 years outdated

there are only about 3-4 orgs which rank Engg Indian Institutes ..... heres the link

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_...day.E2.80.99_Best_Engineering_Schools_.5B4.5D

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Next question about VIT:

My mom is critisizing me for targeting only VIT, because I have studied the whole of its syllabus and hence I feel secure and confident in revising its portions.

She says its expensive, and her friend's daughter apparently says its not got good teachers.

But I am inclined towards it since its a Tier I collage, has great placements and its somewhat easier to get into.

I doubt I can comfortably clear AIEEE or IIT-JEE to get B.Tech(IT/CSE).

What do I do ?

 

[gopi_vbboy]

^^ Even i aimed to join CS/IT but could not get in my desired coll,so took eee keeping in view collg name,coz i had lot of comptn of CS

i think due to recession ppl will not go for CS/IT NOW instead go for core side like EEE/MECH/CIVIL etc.I think u hav a chance of CS in some NIT/iit IF U perform good.

Actually if u r really interested in CS/IT Technical/Research part then only go for the course or else take any course n do B.E IF U R AIMING FOR mba,etc or job.Remember nowadays coll is important if u r not intrested very much in subject side.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

BTW, whats the scope for Specialisation in Cryptography and Security ?

I think I have aptitude in such things, but "normal" software programming seems much more fun and less "serious", and yeah, I have an aptitude there too.

I heard things like cryptography and security will be wanted jobs even in recession times as they are zero-compromises fields.

 

[confused]

to be honest dude VIT, Manipal, Amity all su#k bigtime. i wouldnt recommend them. they have obscenely high fees too, almost thrice of my college (BIT Mesra)

one more advice, dude stick to ur books for now. after u give jee and aieee,etc u have all the time to do research on colleges. trust me, i went through the same last year. not worth the mental tension. just chill. sleep and eat well. put ur best effort in the exams.

once the results are out u can do all this stuff.....

 

[MetalheadGautham]

But I heard placements are good in VIT ?

And yeah, I would most propably doing an M.Tech/ME/MS(most likely) after a BE/B.Tech because I heard some of the fields I am interested in require a riddiculously high level of expertise and qualification.

Do you think the curse of getting a lower end collage for BE/B.Tech would have its effects minimized if I get a good rank in GATE and join a 1337 institute like IISc for Post Graduation ?

 

[zboy123]

No dude!! First of all don't think of going for Post Graduation just cuz you wanna minimize your effects of being in a 2nd tier college.

It's better to be a first grade student in 2nd tier college than a 2nd grade student in 1st grade college

but then reality bites - where I work, I was hired for a post where people normally reach after at least 2 years of experience and I earn more than most of my colleagues. This is what belonging to a 1st tier college does in the start of your career. However, by personal experience, it all averages out in 4-5 years. So it doesn't matter in long run.

If you are really interested in further studies, try excelling in your college, convince your profs for good recos and app abroad for post graduation. Post graduation in India will do nothing to your resume except get you a slightly better payscale which u might anyway eventually get had worked those 2 years extra you put into doing masters. If research is what you wanna do, aim for colleges and faculty with excellence in your field both for graduation and post graduation.

Hope this helps you.

Nitin
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No dude!! First of all don't think of going for Post Graduation just cuz you wanna minimize your effects of being in a 2nd tier college.

It's better to be a first grade student in 2nd tier college than a 2nd grade student in 1st grade college

but then reality bites - where I work, I was hired for a post where people normally reach after at least 2 years of experience and I earn more than most of my colleagues. This is what belonging to a 1st tier college does in the start of your career. However, by personal experience, it all averages out in 4-5 years. So it doesn't matter in long run.

If you are really interested in further studies, try excelling in your college, convince your profs for good recos and app abroad for post graduation. Post graduation in India will do nothing to your resume except get you a slightly better payscale which u might anyway eventually get had worked those 2 years extra you put into doing masters. If research is what you wanna do, aim for colleges and faculty with excellence in your field both for graduation and post graduation.

Hope this helps you.

Nitin

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Thanks for your advice.

But can you tell me WHAT is the difference like, in pay scales ? Since I may be taking an educational loan, I need info about attending which collage is easier to pay back, etc.

 

[Phantom Lancer]

To make it easier i ll just summerize some of the points highlighted by the previous posters (which i think are some excellent advices you should remember )

->College is more important than the course unless you are into research - Post #26

->Concentrate on scoring your highest now , worry about your UG choice later - Post #28

->It's better to be a first grade student in 2nd tier college than a 2nd grade student in 1st tier college -Post #30

->If you aim to excel in your field .... PG=Abroad=MS period ... you should be thinking Stanford not IIT -Post #30

 

[Phantom Lancer]

BTW, whats the scope for Specialisation in Cryptography and Security ?

I heard things like cryptography and security will be wanted jobs even in recession times as they are zero-compromises fields.

Yup if you specialize in areas like that you ll def be wanted always ...... But it requires a post Grad degree .....

I think I have aptitude in such things, but "normal" software programming seems much more fun and less "serious", and yeah, I have an aptitude there too.

"Normal software programming" gives you no scope for growth in your career... and its very boring (after a few years)....... If you choose to pursue software programming this is the career path you are likely to follow ,

Trainee (2-6 months) -->junior Engineer (programmer) -->Senior Engineer (programmer)-->Module Manager (Management) --> Project Manager (Management) ...dont know the rest
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But I heard placements are good in VIT ?

And yeah, I would most propably doing an M.Tech/ME/MS(most likely) after a BE/B.Tech because I heard some of the fields I am interested in require a riddiculously high level of expertise and qualification.

Do you think the curse of getting a lower end collage for BE/B.Tech would have its effects minimized if I get a good rank in GATE and join a 1337 institute like IISc for Post Graduation ?

Yes your performance in your UG can override your college ranking ......

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Yup if you specialize in areas like that you ll def be wanted always ...... But it requires a post Grad degree .....

Thanks for the advice. So do you think I should take security more seriously than fun programming because it has better job prospectives ? I don't mind either right now.

"Normal software programming" gives you no scope for growth in your career... and its very boring (after a few years).......

OK. Thats what my cousin said 2 years back when he quit INFOSYS and to do an MBA in finance. Looks like he echos the general viewpoint.

 

[Phantom Lancer]

Thanks for the advice. So do you think I should take security more seriously than fun programming because it has better job prospectives ? I don't mind either right now.

Yes ... That is the general advice ppl are giving now ..... And generally top companies which higher Crypto specialist pay obscene salaries ......


OK. Thats what my cousin said 2 years back when he quit INFOSYS and to do an MBA in finance. Looks like he echos the general viewpoint.

Around 30% of IIM and ISB (Top B-schools) students are IIT students who have worked for >3 years as software engineers .

 

[MetalheadGautham]

OK, now if I don't get B.Tech(CSE) and end up with B.Tech(IT), will I still qualify for doing masters in security/crypto ?

 

[Phantom Lancer]

Yup ... i just finished Crypto & N/W security this semester

And as far as i know CSC is BE not B.Tech

only subjects such as Information technology , Textile Technology etc
are B.Tech

if you take up B.Tech IT you can choose to specialize in any csc subjects

 

[MetalheadGautham]

OK. Next question,

In VIT, there is an option for taking additional B.Tech(IT) degree with any engineering course in the form of evening classes from second year. Does it reduce the value of the degree in any way ?

And I noticed that IIIT Hydrabad has a higher cutoff than any NIT in AIEEE ranks (2500 max). How is IIIT Bangalore ? Is it fully functional yet, and whats the cutoff like there ?

 

[utsav]

And as far as i know CSC is BE not B.Tech

only subjects such as Information technology , Textile Technology etc
are B.Tech

Nope you are wrong .even CSE comes in B.Tech

 

[gopi_vbboy]

@METAL

dude cool

first give ur exams...worry abt colls

u r too much thinking abt coll that u can do in holidaz

first spend this time in exam prep...all the best

 

[Phantom Lancer]

Nope you are wrong .even CSE comes in B.Tech

I just checked with some of my friends ..... It totally depends on the Univ/college

Some offer csc as B.Tech ,some as BE ........its not set in stone .....

@Goutham

Dont worry about B.Tech IT or CSC .... The difference is only on a few subjects (3-5)

But the core computer subjects are common to both branch ......just ask some of the college students you know .... they ll tell u that the difference (in terms of subject studied or opportunities) is very negligible .......

For example : Companies looking for software engineers generally only put the following as the basic requirement .......

"A 4 year Engineering Degree" ... and not a Btech or BE

and i am talking about companies like Microsoft and IBM . you can verify this right now ! .....