Battle of the Music Phones

[gxsaurav]

^^^ ^^^

How can there be any phone which is better than the iPhone at playing music? Is there something, anything the iPhone lacks?

1) No WMA (cos Apple doesn't want it)

2) No OpenDRM (means playforsure is not compatible, not everyone is iTunes user)

3) Can't share music mp3s like we can between say K750i & W810i using bluetooth. (From what I know so far)

4) No support for RealAudio format (might piss off a few symbian users)

5) Sync only with iTunes. (Comon, iTunes in not a PIM)

6) No FM (as krazy frog said, think of so many himesh fans )

7) W880i & other Walkman series phones (example) can play music without even starting in Phone mode. Which means longer battery of 30hrs. Not possible in iPhone so far

 

[mehulved]

The last point applies to all W series phone AFAIK. My sister's W700i also has 2 modes, phone mode and music player mode. Or have I misunderstood the point?

 

[gxsaurav]

The last point applies to all W series phone AFAIK. My sister's W700i also has 2 modes, phone mode and music player mode. Or have I misunderstood the point?

Yup, it is aplicable to all W series phones. Actully exclusive to W series phones so far. I was comparing iPhone to W880i only cos both are new & serious competitors

 

[aryayush]

1) No WMA (cos Apple doesn't want it)

The iPod does not support it either, but I don't see that stopping anyone from purchasing iPods.

2) No OpenDRM (means playforsure is not compatible, not everyone is iTunes user)

LOL! Even Microsoft's Zune does not support it and you expect Apple to! LOL! Do you have any song purchased through PlaysForSure, by the way? How many people here have purchased songs from PlaysForSure?

3) Can't share music mp3s like we can between say K750i & W810i using bluetooth. (From what I know so far)

Unfortunately, you don't know much. Show me a link to the place where Apple has said that iPhone will not allow you to do that. And before you ask me to show you a link where Apple has said that the iPhone WILL support this feature, show me a link where Sony Ericsson has advertised this feature on the W950i. This is not a feature that needs to be advertised.
Anyway, let us wait and see. June is not so far away.

4) No support for RealAudio format (might piss off a few symbian users)

How many phones in your list support RealAudio?

5) Sync only with iTunes. (Comon, iTunes in not a PIM)

LOL! This makes it any less of a music phone. The great drawback: It automatically syncs with the software that is very easy to use and millions of people around the globe know how to use. Saurav's illogical logic!™

6) No FM (as krazy frog said, think of so many himesh fans )

Damn!

7) W880i & other Walkman series phones (example) can play music without even starting in Phone mode. Which means longer battery of 30hrs. Not possible in iPhone so far

I suppose Steve Jobs must have told that to you personally, because I haven't heard this anywhere on the internet so far.

That is a grand total of one drawback, no FM. I think I can say it fairly certainly that we'll never see it on an Apple product. So I guess those who want the coolest phone in the market will just have to live with(out) it. I'm not complaining. Who cares? I have eight gigabytes of songs at my disposal. But I understand it may be a severe drawback for some people.

I can predict gx_saurav's next post, BTW. "see, i said macboys ruin topic. that why i not mention iphone in my post. say one word against apple and they come after you. i gave a list of so good drawbacks (spent nine hours thinking and making it up) and he gave stupid reasons to defend his point. this is my last post in thread. bull**** alert."

 

[Pathik]

How many phones in your list support RealAudio?

all the nokia symbian fones support RA.. with/without 3rd party apps..

That is a grand total of one drawback, no FM. I think I can say it fairly certainly that we'll never see it on an Apple product. So I guess those who want the coolest phone in the market will just have to live with(out) it. I'm not complaining. Who cares? I have eight gigabytes of songs at my disposal. But I understand it may be a severe drawback for some people.

thats a very big drawback atleast in india... cos i know many people who cant live without it..

 

[aryayush]

all the nokia symbian fones support RA.. with/without 3rd party apps..

Can you give me an example of phones that natively support RealAudio please? I am not challenging you, just want to know.

And I am pretty sure Real will soon release RealPlayer for iPhone. It is there for the Mac so I see no reason why it won't be available for the iPhone.

If it isn't though, you can increase the number of drawbacks to two.

But if we are discussing the drawbacks, shouldn't there be a discussion of the positive too? Cover Flow (in a way that's very useful), great interface, eight gigabyte storage, automatic iTunes synchronisation, gapless playback, support for full screen album art, standard 3.5mm jack, compatible with iPod accessories... the list goes on, doesn't it!

 

[koolbluez]

^^ He meant this, Arya.

 

[aryayush]

Yeah, I know about the the separate application but I didn't know that some phones play it by default too. Do they?

 

[Pathik]

Not the current ones.. Maybe in the future they ll..

 

[aryayush]

OK, thanks!

 

[krazyfrog]

RealPlayer has always been a built-in application in all Symbian phones firmware made so far (except N-Gage QD). It serves as the default media player in Symbian phones. And since it has always been there, Symbian phones have always been able to playback realmedia files. Its like supporting the format natively.
Btw gx, the ability to play music without activating the network part of phone is nothing too special and absolutely not something exclusive to Walkman phones. Its called Flight or Offline mode. Even my two year old QD has that feature. Although i'm surprised iPhone doesn't support it.
And as far as fm is concerned, i wonder why Apple insists on avoiding it in all its products. When even 4k phones now support fm, in a 40k phone people will have to shell out several more to get an fm accessory, that too if they ever decide to provide it. Having 8gb of memory is no excuse. They could've made better use of that 8gb by providing an fm radio and a recorder which could record fm broadcast directly onto memory. For a company introducing technologies like Multi-touch, such short sightedness is definitely not expected. Especially at the price they demand for their products.

 

[aryayush]

Although i'm surprised iPhone doesn't support it.

gx_saurav is the last person you should rely on for any information about an Apple product.

It might not have the feature, but no announcement certainly does not mean not there. You should wait till either Apple has confirmed that the feature is not there or the phone is released. Given that it runs OS X, I think it is quite a possibility that the iPhone will allow you to quit applications you do not want, including the Phone app.

 

[aryayush]

Sorry! I have corrected it.