Apple Announces iPhone 2.0 Software Beta

[aryayush]

Milind's sense of humor is completely different from mine though. He's completely crazy!

Just read something on TechCrunch. Sad thing is, Apple say and limits that you can run only one application at any given time. No 3rd party app can run in the background. If you leave the app, it will close

Yes, they will. The iPhone is designed in such a way that pressing the Home button quits the running application but resumes from where you left it when you open that application again. The HIG reminds developers that their applications should feature such seamlessness too. It's actually better. You get the same benefits but without the overhead of several applications running in the background, eating up valuable battery life and slowing down the phone.

 

[kumarmohit]

^^ u can, but i suppose that's not legal.

It is not illegal per se, the only thing is that you would not be able to useup to its complete capability.

 

[Voldy]

Well thanks for the info
wow ver. 2.0 is released too
bad there's no hope of iphone in india atleast in 3-4years

 

[goobimama]

^^ Whatcha talking about! Another two months and we'll have the iPhone.

 

[utsav]

The iPhone was released on 29 June 2007.

The only thing I didn't like about this whole SDK thing is that developers will have to pay a recurring annual fee of $99 to Apple. That sucks. This basically means that there will hardly be any free applications, if at all.

Apart from that, the SDK rocks, the distribution method is awesome, the applications are superb... everything is just brilliant.

good joke, good GK

 

[aryayush]

^^ Whatcha talking about! Another two months and we'll have the iPhone.

He was exaggerating (mild sarcasm) and you are being a little too optimistic.

 

[Pathik]

Just read something on TechCrunch. Sad thing is, Apple say and limits that you can run only one application at any given time. No 3rd party app can run in the background. If you leave the app, it will close

WTH!! No multitasking??

 

[aryayush]

The iPhone is designed in such a way that pressing the Home button quits the running application but resumes from where you left it when you open that application again. The HIG reminds developers that their applications should feature such seamlessness too. It's actually better. You get the same benefits but without the overhead of several applications running in the background, eating up valuable battery life and slowing down the phone.

 

[ring_wraith]

^^ so now multi-tasking is a bad thing? But does this mean I can't listen to music and play a 3rd party game at the same time?

And iPod games never were cracked coz there was no SDK. No SDK=no tools. Now they [read, hackers] actually have something to work with.

 

[shashank_re]

iPhone in India and China in 2008!
*deccan.com/Business/Business.asp#iPhone now coming to India

 

[goobimama]

I don't think music quits. You can play music without being in the iPod app...

 

[gary4gar]

The iPhone was released on 29 June 2007.

The only thing I didn't like about this whole SDK thing is that developers will have to pay a recurring annual fee of $99 to Apple. That sucks. This basically means that there will hardly be any free applications, if at all.

Apart from that, the SDK rocks, the distribution method is awesome, the applications are superb... everything is just brilliant.

some more flaws
1) The Programmes that are created will be available EXCLUSIVELY via a new Service on all iPhones called Apple store
This aspect may discourage some Devlopers.

2) Apple will keep 30% of the sale price

There will be hardly any free apps then

 

[preshit.net]

Why would you consider the 1st thing as a flaw ? The apps, since they are available via a centralized repository, are in fact certified by Apple. I don't see any disadvantage is this, really.

 

[gary4gar]

Why would you consider the 1st thing as a flaw ? The apps, since they are available via a centralized repository, are in fact certified by Apple. I don't see any disadvantage is this, really.

Remove the Word EXCLUSIVE, and all problems & concerns vanish

 

[infra_red_dude]

The iPhone is designed in such a way that pressing the Home button quits the running application but resumes from where you left it when you open that application again. The HIG reminds developers that their applications should feature such seamlessness too. It's actually better. You get the same benefits but without the overhead of several applications running in the background, eating up valuable battery life and slowing down the phone.

The no. of apps running simul. can always be limited by the firmware, if need be. IMHO, no multi-tasking is a big drawback for a product like iphone.

 

[goobimama]

How'r you going to multi task on such a device? What possible uses could there be for multi tasking? Rendering 3D scenes while you begin coding a website? The screen is so small, the battery life is important, and the processor isn't a C2D. The fact that you can go right back to where you left an app is multi tasking enough.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

How'r you going to multi task on such a device? What possible uses could there be for multi tasking? Rendering 3D scenes while you begin coding a website? The screen is so small, the battery life is important, and the processor isn't a C2D. The fact that you can go right back to where you left an app is multi tasking enough.

no.
I atleast need to listen to songs while browsing/viewing doccuments.

 

[preshit.net]

You can. Only the 3rd party apps will not run in the background. Listening to songs is built right into the device.

 

[infra_red_dude]

How'r you going to multi task on such a device? What possible uses could there be for multi tasking? Rendering 3D scenes while you begin coding a website? The screen is so small, the battery life is important, and the processor isn't a C2D. The fact that you can go right back to where you left an app is multi tasking enough.

Lets say you are browsing a web page (on safari, opera whatever), suddenly you think of buying a new Dell 24" lcd for your iMac, goto the page enter the details/config whatever. The price is Rs.19512.54 + 4% VAT + Rs.3684.35 for additional 3 years warranty.. You see an Eizo for $513.12 USD with 3 years warranty. Now you gotta decide which is beneficial. How do you calc. things? Reach out your pocket and say voila! I haf my trusty old scientific calc. with me. I can do all that without leaving the asp?!

This is just a hypothetical e.g. And for that matter the 600-odd mhz proc. under the hood is the c2d of mobile phones! If its not doing optimum work but sitting idle then that is more wastage of battery!

I'm sure Apple will add multitasking eventually. This is something hard to do without on a powerful device like the iphone.

 

[aryayush]

You can hit the Home button anytime you are in Safari and you'll immediately be returned to the home screen. Safari will quit in the background. Hit the Calculator icon to launch it, do your calculation and hit the home screen again. Calculator will quit in the background. Hit Safari again to return to your iMac page.

There is no lag anywhere. I think this is a much better implementation, if it works as advertised.

^^ so now multi-tasking is a bad thing?

Please don't try to put words in my mouth. I never said that. I said that Apple's implementation might turn out to be better in real life usage.

But does this mean I can't listen to music and play a 3rd party game at the same time?

You can. You can listen to music while doing anything on the phone, except watching videos or being on a phone call.

some more flaws
1) The Programmes that are created will be available EXCLUSIVELY via a new Service on all iPhones called Apple store
This aspect may discourage some Devlopers.

Yes, and that's exactly why the system is in place – to discourage non-serious developers. There is no disadvantage with the implementation of the App Store. It's perfect and I wouldn't have it any other way.

2) Apple will keep 30% of the sale price

There will be hardly any free apps then

Thirty percent of zero is $0.00, in case you didn't know.

The no. of apps running simul. can always be limited by the firmware, if need be. IMHO, no multi-tasking is a big drawback for a product like iphone.

It does have multi-tasking, but the implementation is different from the conventional one.

no.
I atleast need to listen to songs while browsing/viewing doccuments.

Yes, and you can do that on the iPhone. It's the best iPod the company's ever made, for God's sake. The last thing that should be an issue on it is listening to songs.