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dissel

dissel

Cyborg Agent
whitestar_999 said:
HDD will always be a bottleneck, try to copy some large files(preferably 1gb+) from ssd to ssd to see how much speed you get. Btw you have 2 internal ssd(120gb & 250gb) so how you manage with hdd.
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I got only one SATA port as internal which occupied by Samsung 250GB SSD Win10.
I got two ADATA 120GB SSD for Linux installation which till now (as you solved the problem a weeks ago) used as external USB installation from the one 3.0 USB port of the laptop.
I got 500GB laptop's original HDD laying around,I Just open the caddy and swapped and perform the DATA transfer test.
*i.imgur.com/rhxCRZv.jpg

Anyhow can't perform the SSD to SSD data transfer test, as Win10 don't see the drive and the Ubuntu 20.04 or Budgie can't perform a write in the windows installation.....that 250GB Win10 drive auto mounted - read eanbled but can't writable, tried almost all guide but looks like windows locked the drive due to added security.
 
dissel

dissel

Cyborg Agent
whitestar_999 said:
I see, your laptop must be a 11.1" laptop with no optical drive that's why only 1 sata internal port. Win 10 won't see linux file system so no driver either & as for linux, I think linux see win 10 install drive in ntfs format as read only be default. @Desmond David @Nerevarine @Vyom
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No No...1 SATA HDD port and one Optical Port.

My laptop is this one
*www.flipkart.com/hp-compaq-15-s001...OMDWZ2GFKAYMNV5&lid=LSTCOMDWZ2GFKAYMNV50KIVPG
 
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whitestar_999

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dissel said:
No No...1 SATA HDD port and one Optical Port.
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I see, I got confused because technically optical port is nothing but an internal sata port. Your laptop also has same 4th gen i3 as my laptop so good chance both internal sata ports in your laptop are also sata 3 as they are in mine.
 
Skyh3ck

Skyh3ck

Cyborg Agent
Lenovo Laptop related questions,

an we upgrade the RAM and SSD ourselve, will it void warranty,

If not then can Lenovo do it and what charges
 
omega44-xt

omega44-xt

Gear up ...
Skyh3ck said:
Lenovo Laptop related questions,

an we upgrade the RAM and SSD ourselve, will it void warranty,

If not then can Lenovo do it and what charges
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It wasn't an issue back in 2013-14 when I had a Lenovo laptop. Didn't hear anything as such recently though. Acer & MSI has that restriction & they apply stickers on screw. Acer annoys people but they have good laptops at good price, so people buy it. It costed 500 for my friend in Acer service centre to get a product installed. MSI, well their products don't have a good price, so no one bothers buying.
 
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whitestar_999

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Staff member
Skyh3ck said:
Lenovo Laptop related questions,

an we upgrade the RAM and SSD ourselve, will it void warranty,

If not then can Lenovo do it and what charges
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Usually ram can be upgraded without any issue as long as empty ram slot can be accessed by a sub-panel present in bottom panel with opening just one screw. SSD upgrade will most probably require opening the entire back panel so unless you are skilled enough I suggest to get it done at service centre only because you never know when you might break something. This is also why I recommend people to prefer laptops pre-installed with ssd especially nowadays when making a trip to service centre is full of hassle & should be taken as last resort only.
 
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mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
whitestar_999 said:
Run crystaldiskmark benchmark tool & post the result here. Caddy is just a bridge between laptop sata port & ssd sata port.
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Another important thing, This is an old HDD. (from the other thread for Laptop issue)

For Switch in centre, Partition A:
[Read]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 88.751 MB/s [ 84.6 IOPS] < 93543.50 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 98.354 MB/s [ 93.8 IOPS] < 10649.31 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.210 MB/s [ 295.4 IOPS] <626262.49 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.472 MB/s [ 115.2 IOPS] < 8652.38 us>

[Write]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 97.495 MB/s [ 93.0 IOPS] < 85040.75 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 96.905 MB/s [ 92.4 IOPS] < 10807.26 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.413 MB/s [ 345.0 IOPS] <534870.94 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 1.397 MB/s [ 341.1 IOPS] < 2868.46 us>

For Switch in Side, , Partition A:
[Read]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 97.509 MB/s [ 93.0 IOPS] < 85062.08 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 98.135 MB/s [ 93.6 IOPS] < 10672.99 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.209 MB/s [ 295.2 IOPS] <617802.71 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.499 MB/s [ 121.8 IOPS] < 8189.79 us>

[Write]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 97.450 MB/s [ 92.9 IOPS] < 85146.71 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 96.867 MB/s [ 92.4 IOPS] < 10796.83 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.414 MB/s [ 345.2 IOPS] <579843.58 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.864 MB/s [ 210.9 IOPS] < 2940.19 us>

For Switch in centre, Partition B:
[Read]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 69.318 MB/s [ 66.1 IOPS] <119528.60 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 67.568 MB/s [ 64.4 IOPS] < 15480.11 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.242 MB/s [ 303.2 IOPS] <621744.84 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.495 MB/s [ 120.8 IOPS] < 8246.23 us>

[Write]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 76.889 MB/s [ 73.3 IOPS] <107568.99 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 76.727 MB/s [ 73.2 IOPS] < 13643.07 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.485 MB/s [ 362.5 IOPS] <571821.48 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.945 MB/s [ 230.7 IOPS] < 271.07 us>

For Switch in Side, , Partition B:
[Read]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 69.219 MB/s [ 66.0 IOPS] <119643.44 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 68.308 MB/s [ 65.1 IOPS] < 15309.00 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.286 MB/s [ 314.0 IOPS] <598683.65 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.485 MB/s [ 118.4 IOPS] < 8425.21 us>

[Write]
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 78.349 MB/s [ 74.7 IOPS] <105611.28 us>
Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 77.090 MB/s [ 73.5 IOPS] < 13506.71 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.427 MB/s [ 348.4 IOPS] <558894.29 us>
Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 1.466 MB/s [ 357.9 IOPS] < 2788.22 us>

Both A and B are 100GB partitions on the HDD, A is 80 percent free, B is 70 percent free

whitestar_999 said:
I see, I got confused because technically optical port is nothing but an internal sata port. Your laptop also has same 4th gen i3 as my laptop so good chance both internal sata ports in your laptop are also sata 3 as they are in mine.
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Both the ports look a bit different. The primary one (2.5 inch Bay) has the standard power connector(long L shaped) and a smaller SATA3(short L shaped) But, the power connectors on the Optical bay one is shorter than the normal sized SATA power connector.
Image of connector:
https://imgur.com/EMIz4H0
https://imgur.com/EMIz4H0


Edit: added more info.
 
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mastercool8695

Cyborg Agent
dissel said:
Here is the speed from SSD to a HDD (5400rpm) DATA transfer speed below, Max I see 56MB/s
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What are you moving?
I'll try moving stuff too.

https://imgur.com/m2ECeaY
whitestar_999 said:
I thought you were talking about ssd in caddy. I suggest to install ssd in caddy & hdd in its original place & then test.
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I have the OS in the SSD. Won't it affect OS boot speeds?
or are you suggesting to try it?

Edit: okay, I got it. I'll try swapping.
 
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OrrBitt

Broken In
I have a ten year old Toshiba laptop the battery of which just died. Windows shows the battery level as 0%, BatteryCare shows the following info:

Model: Sanyo PA3817U-1BRS
Designed Capacity: 4500 mWh
Total Capacity: 382 mWh
Current Capacity: 0 mWh
Charge / Discharge rate: 0 W
Tension (Voltage): 8701 mW
Wear Level: 91.51%

I put the laptop to sleep and switched of the mains power and the laptop immediately shut down, meaning it is not receiving any current from the battery and depends totally on direct wall current.

I may buy a new battery at a later time, but right now, what I want to know is, should I remove the battery and use the laptop plugged into the wall charger, or should I let the battery remain as it is (in the laptop), and use the laptop with the power supplied by the wall charger?

I've read in some place that using the laptop running from the mains power without a battery exposes it to fluctuations in the power and damages the hardware. From what I've understood, keeping the battery in and using the laptop plugged in will mean the laptop will receive a steady current, even if the mains power fluctuates, because the present battery still has 382 mWh :)
 
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whitestar_999

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OrrBitt said:
I've read in some place that using the laptop running from the mains power without a battery exposes it to fluctuations in the power and damages the hardware. From what I've understood, keeping the battery in and using the laptop plugged in will mean the laptop will receive a steady current, even if the mains power fluctuates, because the present battery still has 382 mWh :)
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Many factors but yes the recommended way is to run the laptop with battery attached even if it is giving zero backup.
 
omega44-xt

omega44-xt

Gear up ...
OrrBitt said:
I have a ten year old Toshiba laptop the battery of which just died. Windows shows the battery level as 0%, BatteryCare shows the following info:

Model: Sanyo PA3817U-1BRS
Designed Capacity: 4500 mWh
Total Capacity: 382 mWh
Current Capacity: 0 mWh
Charge / Discharge rate: 0 W
Tension (Voltage): 8701 mW
Wear Level: 91.51%

I put the laptop to sleep and switched of the mains power and the laptop immediately shut down, meaning it is not receiving any current from the battery and depends totally on direct wall current.

I may buy a new battery at a later time, but right now, what I want to know is, should I remove the battery and use the laptop plugged into the wall charger, or should I let the battery remain as it is (in the laptop), and use the laptop with the power supplied by the wall charger?

I've read in some place that using the laptop running from the mains power without a battery exposes it to fluctuations in the power and damages the hardware. From what I've understood, keeping the battery in and using the laptop plugged in will mean the laptop will receive a steady current, even if the mains power fluctuates, because the present battery still has 382 mWh :)
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I'm sure that its hitting reserve power limit as soon as you remove power. Its just a simple case of battery dying out. No rechargeable batteries last forever.

Dell started shipping lower quality batteries with lower rated charge-discharge cycles & my laptop's battery is already at 50% wear after 1 year. 10 years is pretty good. Getting a new battery might be an issue, but your problem has a simple solution, change the battery. Keep battery inside it for now unless you see damage to battery (like it got inflated).
 
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OrrBitt

Broken In
@whitestar_999
@omega44-xt

Okay, so I'll keep the battery inside and use the laptop.

As soon as I switch off the mains power, the laptop immediately shuts off, which means the battery isn't giving any power to the laptop at all. But still, it's a sort of barrier to the hardware in case of power fluctuations.

The battery isn't inflated yet. While the laptop is ten years old, I had stopped using it and have only started using it again since the past six months, after about four or five years of rare usage.

Toshiba not selling laptops in India is news to me. Maybe I should I get a new battery soon. I searched Amazon and while there are no original Toshiba batteries, there are other brands like Lapcare, Batterywala, Sellzone, Lapkit, etc. Any suggestions on which one to get, or should I try a local vendor?
 
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whitestar_999

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OrrBitt said:
Toshiba not selling laptops in India is news to me. Maybe I should I get a new battery soon. I searched Amazon and while there are no original Toshiba batteries, there are other brands like Lapcare, Batterywala, Sellzone, Lapkit, etc. Any suggestions on which one to get, or should I try a local vendor?
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Compatible batteries are alright, they don't have as much life as original batteries but should last ~1.5 years in usual case but try local shops first as they at least have some warranty where you can return/exchange the battery within first few weeks/months of buying.
 
dissel

dissel

Cyborg Agent
Desmond David said:
It can write as well. Only time it's read-only is when Windows has not shutdown correctly, is in hibernate state or if windows quick boot feature is enabled.
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Thanks for the solution, this method working with Ubuntu Budgie 20.04 Installation - Now I can copy files from Ubuntu to Windows 10 without any problem, Hope this will work with Ubuntu too.

mastercool8695 said:
What are you moving?
I'll try moving stuff too.
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Moving files includes Video MP4 files as well some PDFs too.
 
dissel

dissel

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