29th state of India Declared- Telangana

AcceleratorX

Youngling
It breaks my heart to see divisional tendencies amongst people. I am a guy well-travelled across many parts of India. I have eaten food with tribals; I have seen and lived with people of every ethnicity, caste, creed, and religion. Bad people are everywhere; the divides we see are created by us and it must also be destroyed by us.

At the end of the day, only truth prevails and I hope people realize this. I hate to see divisional politics because I am a migrant, my family is a migrant and most of us are migrants from somewhere if we try and trace back our history. Migrancy really isn't the problem, we must learn to live together and contribute to each other's well being.

On this line of thought, I do not support Karbi Anglong, Telangana, Vidarbha or any such movement. The division of states on a linguistic basis was questionable to begin with, but still somewhat acceptable in the larger interest of preserving diversity. Is it justified today when a Telugu speaking state is split up into two Telugu speaking states?

It just doesn't make sense, migrants are not here to drink your blood. If you have given us a home, we will contribute towards it as well.
 

Chaitanya

Cyborg Agent
I hate to see divisional politics because I am a migrant, my family is a migrant and most of us are migrants from somewhere if we try and trace back our history. Migrancy really isn't the problem, we must learn to live together and contribute to each other's well being.

If you have given us a home, we will contribute towards it as well.

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Chosen of the Omnissiah
Just have a look at this....

Inside The Maoist Nursery

Majority of the Maoist leadership hail from a single district of Telangana, a legacy that haunts its demand for statehood
Sandeep Unnithan Karimnagar, July 19, 2013 | UPDATED 17:23 IST



On November 27, 2011, the body of slain Maoist Mallojula Koteshwara Rao alias Kishenji was brought back to his home in Pedapalli village in Andhra Pradesh's Karimnagar district. The Maoist number three, a ruthless tactician fluent in six languages, was killed after a firefight with CRPF men in West Bengal. Policemen in plainclothes filmed the crowds that gathered to spot Maoists in mufti. Kishenji was swiftly replaced in the Maoist politburo, the highest decision making body of CPI (Maoist), by his younger brother Venugopal, 51. His mother, Madhuramma, 76, wife of a deceased freedom fighter, says she may not live to see her son. "This is war," she says, "They kill the police... the police kill them."

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Madhuramma, the mother of Maoist leaders Kishenji and Venugopal. Photo: Vikram Sharma/India Today​

A majority of the Maoist senior leadership, which steers this war against India from the jungles of Chhattisgarh, hails from Andhra Pradesh's Telangana region. Six of the Maoists' most important leaders including their chief, Muppalla Lakshmana Rao alias Ganapathy, 63, come from a quaint knot of towns and villages of Karimnagar district, 160 km north of Hyderabad.

"They are not like the dreamy Naxalite intellectuals of yore such as Charu Mazumdar," says an Andhra police officer. "These Maoist leaders back ideology with hardcore military skills," says a senior Andhra police officer. Their war, which has claimed over 8,000 lives since 2003, took a savage turn this year. In January, Maoists planted an explosive inside the body of a CRPF trooper they had killed in Jharkand and, in a first for any Indian insurgency, shot down an IAF Mi-17 helicopter on January 18 in Chhattisgarh; on May 25, Maoists massacred 28 people in one swoop, wiping out practically the entire Opposition Congress party in Chhattisgarh-Nand Kumar Patel, V.C. Shukla and Mahendra Karma. Katakam Sudershan, 58, the mastermind, a senior member of the Maoists' Central Military Commission (CMC) is from Belampalli village in Nizamabad that borders Karimnagar.

A 2010 Andhra Pradesh police handbook of 408 wanted Maoists credits Karimnagar with 60 important Maoists, second only to Warangal with 80. Both these districts are part of what will eventually be India's 29th state, Telangana. In a July 12 power point presentation before the Congress core committee in Delhi, Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy said that statehood for Telangana would aggravate communalism and Naxalism. Newly created Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand, he warned, were in the grip of Naxalism.

Sons Of Karimnagar

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Karimnagar with a population of 3.9 million, is sandwiched by the Godavari river in the north, Chhattisgarh's Bastar to the east, Nizamabad to the west and Warangal to the south. It is Andhra Pradesh's hottest district-10 people died after temperatures touched 49 degree Celcius this summer. Geography and climate alone does not answer why the district, named after a Nizam scion, turned into an extremist hotbed.

On the morning of June 1 this year, the residents of Beerpur, a village of 3,651 people in northern Karimnagar, were roused by the town crier. Beating a tinny drum, a ritual unchanged since Mughal times, he announced that the government was seizing the lands of top Maoist leaders. He was accompanied by the village tehsildar and an officer from the National Investigation Agency (NIA). Beerpur is the birthplace of Maoist leader Ganapathy. nia is pursuing a 2010 arms recovery case in West Bengal where senior leaders including Ganapathy and Tirupati are co-accused. They confiscated 1.3 acres owned by Balamuri Narayan Rao, another Maoist leader and Ganapathy acolyte. Ganapathy, they discovered, owned no land. The token effort is the first time a central agency had acted against a leadership that flits between the grey areas of a Centre and state problem.

Land has always been the root cause. Ganapathy was the son of a farmer from the landowning Velama upper caste, the very class he eventually turned against. A BSc graduate from Karimnagar's srr college in 1970, he taught at a district school for three years. Karimnagar was a district with a history of near-continuous armed struggle. CPI's armed revolt, also called the Telangana Rebellion, began in 1945 and ended in 1951. It was aimed at the Nizam, but the feudal tyranny of the landlords called the 'Doralu' continued even after the Nizam's rule ended. "There was no development, agriculture was rain-fed and feudal oppression rampant," explains Karimnagar MP Ponnam Prabhakar. The Doralu exercised untrammelled power over their unlimited land holdings, frequently over the wives of their tenant farmers. It was a condition ripe for uprising.

"He was shy, reserved... a teetotaler with no vices," recalls Ganapathy's cousin Rajeshwar Rao, 75, a contractor who lives in the village as he sits by the roadside, fanning himself with a towel in the damp monsoon heat. "All three brothers were communists," he says, "always immersed in viplava sahityam (revolutionary literature)."

The foundations of the Karimnagar caucus were set in the Radical Students Union (RSU), a Marxist students' body where all the Maoist leaers met. Ganapathy and other graduates from the districts of Telangana gravitated towards RSU. They were joined by other ideologues like Cherukuri Rajkumar alias 'Azad', a gold medallist from the regional engineering college in Warangal (killed by Andhra police in 2010) and Kishenji.

Ganapathy was arrested for violence and arson during the nationwide Emergency in 1977. He jumped bail and went underground in 1979. He and the others joined Kondapalli Seetharamaih's People's War Group (PWG) the following year. They were the children of Mao Zedong, adherents of his Red Book. They were convinced power flowed from the barrel of the gun and, like the Chairman, dreamt of wresting it in three steps: From remote strongholds to the villages and finally the cities.

As the Maoists rose up the ranks, they abandoned families, adopted single guerrilla nom de guerres, left behind wives, children, families and memories: Wavy-haired portraits from the 1980s on walls and musty plastic albums. "I last met my brother in prison in 1980," says Tippiri Gangadhar, 40, a former toddy tapper who now works as a real estate agent. Tirupathi, who like Kishenji and Ganapathy went to Karimnagar's srr degree college, now heads the Maoists' central technical commission. He led the March 2007 attack on a state police camp in Ranibodli, Chhattisgarh, that killed 55 policemen. "He (Tirupathi) told me he had no family. The movement was his only family," says Gangadhar.

The Deadly Landmine

It was in Ganapathy's Beerpur village that the Naxals first used their weapon of mass destruction: The landmine. In 1989, PWG targeted what they thought was a police jeep. The blast blew the jeep to smithereens and showered body parts of the 17 occupants on nearby trees. It was a wedding party carrying members of Ganapathy's extended family. The Maoists issued an abject apology, but their war against the state continued.

By 1992, Ganapathy had ousted his mentor Seetharamaiah, taken control of PWG and driven most landlords out of rural Telangana. "The Naxals ended the 'Dora kaala' (reign of Doras)," says Sande Ravi, 36, a cotton farmer in Gudem village. "We worship him as God," he says pointing at a photo of his brother Sande Rajamouli with an AK-47, the Maoists' badge of high office. Rajamouli, aka Comrade Prasad, 43, was the youngest leader on the Maoists' central committee when he was killed by Andhra Pradesh Police in a 2007 encounter.

Ganapathy's four-room dwelling in Beerpur is a small roofless ruin overgrown with shrubbery. His family abandoned it for the anonymity of Hyderabad. A cellphone tower looms nearby and in the adjoining fields, the music system on a green and yellow John Deere tractor belts out Telugu film songs.

A technicolour statue of 'Telangana amma', holding a bushel of corn and a tray of rice, stands in the village centre. She was introduced a decade ago by Telangana parties as a rival to a similar looking 'Telugu talli' (Mother Telugu) of united Andhra. It looks directly at a 15-ft red column erected by the Maoists, topped with a hammer and sickle, and festooned with names of their fighters who fell to police bullets. The state government erected a rival white pillar topped by a dove with the names of civilians killed by left-wing guerrillas even as it worries an independent Telangana will, once again, turn into a Maoist sanctuary.

The State Strikes Back


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A Maoist memorial(right) in Ganapathy's village Beerpur faces a statue of Telanganaamma. Photo: Vikram Sharma/India Today​

Sentries stand on guard towers behind self-loading rifles in Karimnagar's fortress-like district police headquarters. Inside, lithe Andhra police commandos sit in jeans, denim shirts and running shoes. The loaded ak-47s on their lap and a gaze that sweeps the scene tells you the Maoist threat hasn't entirely gone. Vishwanath Ravinder, Karimnagar's superintendent of police, sits on a glass- topped table before two crossed flags, one of which reads 'who dares wins'. He explains how the state beat back the Maoist challenge. "A three-pronged strategy of building road infrastructure, curbing armed squads and rehabilitating surrendered Naxals," he says. The Maoists wilted under the 'Andhra model'.

Huge investments in district policing and a formidable intelligence network allowed elite anti-Naxal Greyhounds to conduct precise intelligence-led operations. The Maoists, too, began targeting the police leadership, killing K.S. Vyas, the IPS officer who founded the Greyhounds in 1993, and attacked then Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Chandrababu Naidu in a landmine ambush in September 2003. But by that year, the tide had already begun turning. The Karimnagar leadership carried their ideology and military skills into Dandakaranya's forests-a 92,000 square km stretch that covers Andhra Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Odisha. In the words of Rural Development Minister Jairam Ramesh, Andhra Pradesh had, unwittingly, exported its Naxals to another state.

The Telugu Officer Class

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The younger brother and parents of slain Maoist leader Prasad in Jolapalli village. Photo: Vikram Sharma/India Today​

"Vanakka evananna migilaara? (Anyone left?)" a voice in Telugu shouts in a 2007 shaky Maoist battle-cam video, trophy footage of their raid on a police post on Murkinar in Chhattisgarh's Bijapur district where Maoist fighters boarded a state transport bus and stormed the post, light machine guns blazing. Eleven police personnel were killed in the attack, a voiceover in the tribal Gondi dialect tells you. However, tactical instructions in Telugu, shouted back and forth, tell you who is calling the shots: An elite Andhra officer corps that controls an army of 10,000 tribal guerrillas that hopes to overthrow the Indian government by 2050.

In his new sanctuary in the impenetrable Dandakaranya forests in September 2004, Ganapathy did what no guerrilla group had done in post-independent India. He unified PWG with another, equally menacing left-wing extremist group, Bihar's Maoist Communist Centre (MCC), to form CPI (Maoist). By 2005, this formidable force was formally anointed as the 'greatest internal security threat' by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Ganapathy heads a red empire spanning approximately 83 districts across nine states. The unification brought the Maoists closer to the eastern states but a bulk of the strategising is still done by the Karimnagar caucus. Ganapathy runs the Maoist empire with his Karimnagar acolytes. Venugopal runs the Maoist bastion, 'Dandakaranya Special Zonal Committee' (DKSZC), Malla Raji Reddy controls the sensitive Chhattisgarh- Odisha Border State Committee; Kadari Satyanarayana Reddy from Gopalraopalli is the secretary of DKSZC and Pulluri Prasad Rao heads the North Telangana Zonal committee. Police hope the leadership will surrender or be betrayed by friends and family. Each of them have bounties of Rs.44 lakh. So far, only one central committee leader, Lanka Papi Reddy, surrendered, five years ago.

Narasimha Beats Ganapathy

When home ministry officials look at the Maoist problem, they see an ageing, 'dyeing' leadership. A majority of the senior leadership including Ganapathy use hair dye. A greying guerrilla, even one carrying an ak-47, evidently cannot command obedience. The hair dye cannot conceal a greying ideology. "Maoists are having a hard time getting new recruits," a senior home ministry official says. "This is why over 60 per cent of their fighting cadres are now women. The second-rung leaders don't have the ideological commitment of Ganapathy and his aides," he says, predicting a descent into thuggery.

The final victor, they say, will be Karimnagar's most famous son: Former Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao. Born into a feudal family in Vangara village, Rao represented the Manthani election segment in the state Assembly thrice until 1973. To the Maoists, Rao was their deadliest enemy, the wealthy landlord-capitalist who had captured power. A police post guarded the Rao family lands in Vangara village which were tilled under police protection.

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Tippiri Gangadhar.​

Rao's political legacy has been systematically erased by the Congress party. He has no statues in his home district nor state government schemes named after him. But clearly, Rao has had the last laugh. The district town luxuriates in the legacy of his economic reforms. The newly-opened multiplex plays dubbed Telugu versions of World War Z and Man of Steel in the week of their Hollywood release. A new black-topped state highway rushes trucks and buses, the engines of commerce, into the district. China is one of the biggest buyers of granite quarried from the district.

Maoism had died in the birthplace of its founders. Today, only a single armed squad is believed to be active in the district's Mahadeopur region bordering Gadchiroli. The last Maoist-related violent incident was the shooting of a Congress activist in May last year. Arun Kumar, Karimnagar's additional collector, reels out statistics of state government welfare programmes to explain why extremism will not take root again. "There has been considerable redistribution of wealth over the past few decades," he says. "We have managed to tackle the root cause of resentment." Educated youth are now absorbed in the call centres, shopping malls and techno-parks of Hyderabad and other district capitals.

The Prathima Residency hotel advertises itself as the largest pillarless banquet hall in Karimnagar, with a seating capacity of 2,000 people. But nothing prepares you for the sight in the banquet hall of the town's three-star Hotel Swetha: Chinese granite traders gorging on idlis and vadas. Deng Xiaoping's children in the midst of a culinary revolution


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Do we really need to form 2 separate states even after reading this guys? I don't think so....
 
Bro i just stated my experience over 20yrs in hyd..and said in my personal opinion ..not in general...

but if you think T ppl are looting ..answer this- I dont think any particular region is looting from other... its the rich looting the poor or to be exact the smart looting the dumb..its the same everywhere in the world.... but here its just the excuse given by your politicians to make you look other way when they are drilling you
*Every Hero except one in film industry is from andhra? There was only one guy from T ! The film industry still
has chiru,nagarjuna,venkatesh and balayya family dominating on name of caste and region.

Thats because of the talent and family they are from and has nothing to do with the region. The one you mentioned is also an immigrant from the Andhra-seema region. The Telugu film industry was started in chennai... and when it was being moved to Vizag the t-activists and ministers blackmailed to move it to hyderabad. *

How ramoji got 1666 acres of land for film city?T land?
The film city was built in Hyd only because the industry was forced to move to hyderabad. Ramoji group bought it unlike the telangana bhavan in the middle of the city. And dont forget that because of it the land value around the area went up. by the way its not T-area.. it was the state capital. No one would have looked at it if it was not.
*How CBN got Rich?Ever thought how he looted in name of hitech city lands during cm?

CBN got rich.. lol. He was rich before he was cm... dont get into the hype created by politicians he had he got a dowry of 10C 35 years back from his film actor/producer/director/ politician father in law.
CBN had heritage intustries before he was cm.. it was founded in 1992... For your info the Hi-tech lands were under the state goverment and rest under multinational groups like ascendas and raheja... and the funds were transfered to the treasury. Many probes were done into it and clean chit was given every time.


*Ysr another mega scammer!Where is he from?

He is a politician.. he scams.. what does it have to do with the region. There are ministers from telangana who are involved in the same scam and others like the stamp paper scam.

*lagadapathi looting granites?who's lands?

This is the heights of mis-information... Lanco is not in granites business. Also there are no notable granites reserves in Telangana.. apart from the badhrachalam region which was in andhra region till 1959 and was only added to the khammam region afterwards.
Also the biggest granite traders in the t-region are madhu yashki and harish rao who is KCR's family..
Atleast research a bit .. when you make allegations...


Point is its not fair to say only andhra or outsider developed and other were sleeping and looting.
Who built at ground level?Ever cared?

Who built ground level?!... who?
who built all the named schools and colleges in T-region.... who built all the hopitals....please name something which a person solely from t-region... whose ancestors were not from andhra/seema or maharashtra or karnataka etc and did anything worthwhile other than singing or is not into liqour business. Also andhra people came to the telangana region on the request of the rulers on warangal and then nizams.. to do agriculture and give security. Read the history of irrigation in telangana.. and rule of warangal. The rulers of warangal were from Andhra and that of nizams were from iran.
also I never said others were seelping or looting. They were not educated enough to do anything... I remember 10-15 years back every school/college in the andhra region had people from telangana stdying in them.. coz there were no schools there.
Now when they have all the facilities... you want the rest rest to leave so you can enjoy?!!

Before you tell me that out siders are oppressing t-people.. please name a t-politician whose ancestors are not from other regions.
Did you know that t-region and most part of the andhra and seema were part of "Dandakaranyam" where there was no human life as the sunlight never used to hit the land.... its the reason why the whole region was known as andhra..derived from sanskrit meaning dark...
Then Nizams kingdom came into place... along with regions where kannada and marathi were spoke they annexed a telugu speaking regions... the name telangana means.. region where telugu is spoke. It was name given by nizams and the other regions...

Also regarding the oppression.. do you think the so called vile andhra/seems indstrialits and politicians were able to setup business without the help of the local leaders?!
They cant even set foot now....even when they have become multi-millionaires.. without the permission of a local leader... do you really think they would have been able to when they were not so rich..

You need to understand that its your leaders who have been scamming your money and blaming it on others.. an outsider cannot do anything without their will. They have been doing so from a long time... the t-leaders are from the same families(patels-patwaris) against whom the razakars rose in the first place...they are just looting under different name. The t-people were illiterate and were being fooled.. but finally when they were getting educated and becoming aware by mixing with various cultures.. the t-leaders diverted the issues by bringing in sentiments...
Showing common greviences like lack of food, water and employment and showing the people from the rest of the place as the reason.
The issues have been present everywhere in the country and even many people from the t-region know it.... however they can have everthing easily by driving others out. in their own country. Dont forget that the oppurtunities came here only coz of the people coming from variou places...
Did you know that the capital was moved from kurnool to hyd? .. by blackmailing on the name of seperate state.. do you know that the highcourt was moved from guntur to hyderabad.. do you know that the film industry was moved from vizag to hyd using the same... who set up the initial software industries in hyderabad...
Do you think that these would have happened if Hyderabad was not capital of Andhra pradesh and was only capital of T-region?!

Before you say about the treasury of nizams being full before independece.. remember that the money was attained but injust taxation from all regions under nizam rule and not only telangana. Also the people revolted against it as part of the razzakar movement...
That is definitely not the way of a state in good health..
The treasury was not not nationalized unlike other princely states.. most of it was smuggled to iran.. through pakistan. Only a small part of it is displayed in the salarjun museum and still under nizam trust.
Also remember that many of the leaders from andhra helped in the movement against nizams and laid down their lives.. they did not come there steal your riches(which were none).. they came here and died only coz they felt need to help their bretheren.

As said by you, this is like reservation issue - there are opression on both sides

reservation issue was not mentioned related to oppression.. I said they have been using the oppresion clause to get land, job and money free without working hard for it .

if there was no hyderabad.. all these andhra-seema and t-people would stfu... just make it union teritory and see how all the so called sentiments go into drain....
It all about money
 
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I support smaller states. Much easier to administrate.

But in this case, Congress is only doing it now to get some votes because people won't learn to stfu and use their brain. They didn't get their act together - we've had 60 years...so now looking for excuses.
 

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if there was no hyderabad.. all these andhra-seema and t-people would stfu... just make it union teritory and see how all the so called sentiments go into drain....
It all about money

I think you have been research a lot about Telangana...

But what you Know is a Bull ****.... and you said about Nizams... Do research on Them and Their Ruling... dont go blindly... and how advance they are.. how they made telangana as a Powerful state... And Why these Seemandhra PPl want Hyderabad..

If you do Research you will know it...

Dont talk bullshit here...
 
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