101 reasons not to buy a windows phone 7.5

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gopi_vbboy

Cyborg Agent
If WP7.5 had all these...there would be patent trolling from apple,google and samsung.

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blah blah
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This post was by a hater, who did not research properly, and was blinded by his M$oft hate i guess :lol:

more than half of it is false , and rest are petty issues , except a few

if you want a smooth lag free experience with good battery life, use WP without any biases, you'll enjoy it. I did.

And if the few missing features are important to you , don't buy WP

but dont spread FUD

Why would ico refer this link if it wasn't from reliable source.The point is WP7.5 lags many of these when compared with Android.How can you say false with samsung focus as reference..its WP phone in general.
 
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skeletor

skeletor

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well, that source isn't exactly reliable. Most are bogus, I know. But 40% are genuine and these are quite a lot. :p
 
I have so many places to say "that's what she said", but resisting myself. Always been a Microsoft fan, I think they have done a pretty good job transforming from 6.5 to 7. And some article I read said they are adding features like video call(sykpe integrated) and sd card support to the Windows phone 8 os. Remember, this is a brand new OS, so it has it's own time to get up and compete.

Since MS is not very ethical in suing others for patents, they are probably omitting the said ones to avoid a courtroom drama...
 

funskar

Padawan
50% reasons r reliable..
Sony said straight away no wp7 fones.. They will concentrate on android:mrgreen:

Itwas all ego from nokia for not shaking hands with google's android.. due to microsoft's ex ceo elop:-x
Wp7 is a **** until apollo cums..
U can also see the hefty prices falls of wp7 phones as compared to android..
lumia 800 29k to 24k now it's selling for 21.5k same with 710-omnia..

Wp7 could bcom sweet poison for nokia:wah:
 

noob

Cyborg Agent
I m using Omnia w which cone with mango install and I have only one reason no to buy WP over Android is less app support as compared to Android. Other then that WP kik a$$ of Android easily

Try to research on why it has got NO apps like we have on iOS and Android. :)

I have so many places to say "that's what she said", but resisting myself. Always been a Microsoft fan, I think they have done a pretty good job transforming from 6.5 to 7. And some article I read said they are adding features like video call(sykpe integrated) and sd card support to the Windows phone 8 os. Remember, this is a brand new OS, so it has it's own time to get up and compete.

Since MS is not very ethical in suing others for patents, they are probably omitting the said ones to avoid a courtroom drama...

Problem with MS is that they still have that "corporate/enterprise" hat on their head....world has moved..90's era is gone.... I am not saying that they should totally ignore corporate/enterprise vision but should focus on end users requirement more. e.g IE updates are still tied to windows updates service. The reason IE sucks and not able to keep up with browsers like Opera , FF , Chrome is because of this "corporate/enterprise" hat.
 

ssk_the_gr8

Make Way the LORD is Here
If WP7.5 had all these...there would be patent trolling from apple,google and samsung.



Why would ico refer this link if it wasn't from reliable source.

now we have a ico fanboi here :lol: . congrats ico.

and before making statements, research.
microsoft has one of the strongest patent portfolios that is why apple or anybody does not sue them... :|
 

noob

Cyborg Agent
1. No true multitasking - apps are frozen in the background.

similar to iphone , saves battery, much better battery life than android anyday, it has been done for a reason
it's actually better than iphone as some background tasks are allowed, so it's not completely frozen but it's not true multitaking

LOL..to me it looks like too much focus on battery life at cost of end user exp. This is why we dont have even a single IM app on WP which works gr8. Even Skype is BS ...everytime i leave that app, my friends see me offline....
 

noob

Cyborg Agent
i don't really care about sd card and bluetooth file transfer. Other basic functionality missing is really worrying.

Meego > wp7.5.

I once wrote, ios is for people who go to paris from india via a connecting flight to tokyo. One can still manage with this.

Windows phone on the other hand is for people trying to cross sea by walking. Not even swimming.

this :-d

so you were desperate to start phlame warz :mrgreen:

hahah :-D my observation is that , people (esp Nokia fanboys) wants WP to succeed and don't care about Microsoft's attachment to the company. But now that it runs MS OS , suddenly they became MS supporters. I have few such people on my twitter TL :D
 

ssk_the_gr8

Make Way the LORD is Here
LOL..to me it looks like too much focus on battery life at cost of end user exp. This is why we dont have even a single IM app on WP which works gr8. Even Skype is BS ...everytime i leave that app, my friends see me offline....

skype app is just ok, it needs a major update...

and making the phone last longer is part of the user experience
 
Windows Phone 8 could potentially cut off the Lumia and other Windows Phone 7 devices due to incompatibilities: Sources told The Verge last month that current Windows Phones are not upgradable to WP8.

If you own a Lumia or another Windows Phone 7 device, this means your phone could be totally obsolete in a matter of months. No more upgrades to new software, and apps will become incompatible with your device.
sauce
 

noob

Cyborg Agent
skype app is just ok, it needs a major update...

and making the phone last longer is part of the user experience

But still i have not found even a single IM app on WP which has good user exp. How could this change if "windows background service" model is basically flawed (runs only once per 30 min). e.g if you see gtalk or IM+ app on Android, its always connected and its just there...same app (IM+ on WP) gets messages late on WP and sometimes i dont even get messages.

Another thing i dont like about WP is UI of basic elements...e.g buttons, textboxs..etc...it still looks like windows 95. ..even the default font used by MS in WP OS does not look good on small screens. Personally, I liked how UI elements changed from windows 98 to XP and then Vista/windows 7. I fail to see this change from WinMo 5.x/6.x to WP 7.x

This is the best and last opportunity for MS to strike a good balance between restrictions of iOS and freedom of Android. And if rumors are true that current windows phones (including lumia 800) wont get Apollo update...boom...Nokia should shutdown or move with Android or start development on MeeGo.
 

ssk_the_gr8

Make Way the LORD is Here
@hsr
it's still better than android in terms of updates... and if MS dont provide an update for lumia 900(even a wp 7.6 would do) then the mobile story of MS is over
 

funskar

Padawan
this :-d



hahah :-D my observation is that , people (esp Nokia fanboys) wants WP to succeed and don't care about Microsoft's attachment to the company. But now that it runs MS OS , suddenly they became MS supporters. I have few such people on my twitter TL :D

+1
u can see few here on digit too
:rofl:
 

sygeek

Technomancer
I use a Windows Phone and i dont find it lacking like the haters make it out to be . It's similar to iphone and like i've always said, if you want your phone to do everything, you basically want a minicomputer get android

1. No true multitasking - apps are frozen in the background.

similar to iphone , saves battery, much better battery life than android anyday, it has been done for a reason
it's actually better than iphone as some background tasks are allowed, so it's not completely frozen but it's not true multitaking


5. Only support up to 16GB storage .
not true, supports 32 gb e.g. samsung focus


7. Need Zune to transfer files. Zune will only transfer photos, videos & music. All other files need to email/upload to yourself.

again similar to iphone, but here it is lacking

9. Limited to 800x480 resolution.

it's for a reason, if you want HD screen , buy other phones, this is not a flaw

10. No wi-fi hotspot.

again, False. I use wifi hotspot everyday

11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone except those with strict constraints.
oh please... :|
12. Cannot set static IP address so no connection to ad-hoc networks.
how many people use static ip in ad-hoc networks, it's rare ... but it's definitely a negative

15. Totally closed OS, cannot sideload apps outside MS Marketplace.

and why is this an issue, so that you can easily install pirated apk's like android :|

19. No centralized notification page.
this is a flaw

20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this.
a big flaw

21. The idle screen is completely blank and cannot display time or notifications.
this is to save battery
24. Cannot stream audio from video to Bluetooth devices (No A2DP).
again false, i've used bluetooth headsets

26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard.
i mean seriously... get a computer

29. Ugly 2D flat interface. Oversized fonts for headings treat you like an idiot.
this is just being petty

i wont comment on other issues.. not worth it

USABILITY ISSUES

30. No always visible status bar for battery life, signal strength, carrier, 2G/3G wi-fi, Bluetooth on.
it's a design philosophy, minimalist design.. come on
31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you don’t want running in the background.
you don't need to shut down apps on a WP... when will people get this?
32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and easily touched by accident which interrupt your user experience.
oh FFS... this is being too picky
33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show missed call/sms notification.
no
34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen.
again same answer
35. Tiny fonts in messages is very hard to read for those over 45.
true, for people with specs, but it is still manageable
36. Cannot edit playlist or create new playlists from phone.
which idiot has written this? does he even know how to use a WP?
37. Cannot delete a song from phone.
what? kuch bhi..
38. Cannot search your music collection on the phone.
it's easy to find songs, just use the phone you'll know..
39. Cannot close music player, can only pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay until you reboot.
what is the problem.. i'm sure this has been written by a hater..
40. No progress bar for current track playing and no indication which track in an album is playing
41. Cannot lock screen orientation.
42. Online and phone contacts are mixed together with no ability to filter.
again false
43. Cumbersome dialing with no smartdial. No way to create a ‘Favourites’ list of phone contacts
false again
44. Cannot save draft sms messages.
45. Call history only show phone number type. If a contact has multiple phone nos. for a type the number used is unknown.
False again
46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number.
false again
47. Text messages can only be deleted one by one.
the whole thread can be deleted
48. Cannot select multiple pictures for deleting, sending or uploading. They must be done one at a time.
true
49. Notification for recurring events is only given once and none thereafter.
pin the app to start screen , you'll always see the notification
50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no way to group by category. Can be hard to find if you don’t remember the name.
true
51. Calendar scheduler has no weekly view and monthly view is non-zoomable.
true
52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email downloads.
53. If both wi-fi and data connection are available which one it chooses to use is unpredictable. User experiences don’t agree with Microsoft that it “typically” choose wi-fi over 3G.
cant comment on last two, no experience

FEATURE LIMITATIONS
54. No video call.
are you serious? it's their
55. No haptic feedback for keyboard.
56. No Swype.
you dont need it, just use a WP keyboard
57. No flashplayer support.
yeah i can see the flash support of android, iphone does not have it too.. and flash on mobile is dying , so lame point
58. No support for Java apps.
59. No call recording or app to do it.
60. No call blocking or app to do it.
lol, what crap? my x-gf's blocked :)
61. No screenshots or app to do it.
62. No auto wallpaper changer and no app to do it.
now this is stupid..
63. Totally locked down os means apps which interact directly with hardware not allowed.
which makes the OS so stable and smooth..
64. No equalizer for Zune music player.
htc gives an equalizer app, it depends on the phone manufacturer
65. FM radio doesn’t work on speaker.
66. IE browser has no text reflow, no download capability and no offline reading.
67. No 3rd party browsers allowed except those based on IE.
68. No built-in pdf file reader, need to buy app.
lol... false again
69. Cannot open zip or rar files received as email attachment.
70. Cannot send or receive video by MMS.
who uses mms nowadays, email it
71. Office Mobile has much less features than 3rd party Office editors like SmartOffice, QuickOffice and Polaris. Shame on you, Microsoft!
true
72. No native Google maps and Bing maps is useless for most countries outside U.S.
it's a lot improved now.. gmaps is available on WP
73. Email time stamp does not show the year.
74. Wide difference in apps availability in different markets and users locked to one market.
not a wide differnece
75. Not all Bing features available outside U.S.
they will be when they are ready, and alternatives are available for all bing features

DUMB AND DUMBER
76. One volume control for all functions including media playback, ringtones, alarms, notifications.
true
77. Wi-fi disconnects when screen sleeps. Too bad if you are in the middle of a download.
it does not
78. If you receive a text message when talking on the phone an audio alert will blast your ear at the full volume set. All other phones will give a soft beep.
again not trues.. it's not full volume
79. Can only enter one mobile phone no. for each contact. Mobile nos. entered in other fields will not accept sms.
there's a workaround
80. Cannot send/receive MMS without enabling 3G data connection. MMS does not use 3G data.
81. Phone cannot be charged when off.
just put the phone in flight mode, and it will charge like a switched off phone
82. Need to be plugged in to wall charger to sync wirelessly (a funny definition of wireless).
83. Volume up/down buttons cannot operate when screen is off.
man... this dude is just saying crap after crap.. it's false
84. Phone will wake up and display sms content on lockscreen when locked – a privacy violation.
omg!
85. Phone can be rebooted without unlocking to bypass security lock.


FEATURES EVEN DUMB PHONES HAVE BUT WP7.5 DOESN’T
86. No bluetooth file transfer.
iphone
87. Cannot handle USSD codes necessary for prepaid users to obtain services.
true
88. Cannot save new contacts from call history.
false again
89. Cannot sms contacts from call history.
false again
90. Cannot show call duration in call history.
true, but do you really need it?
91. Cannot delete individual calls in call history.
false again
92. Call history does not group calls by contact.
design philosophy
93. Call history does not show the time of call for calls older than current day.
false again
94. Cannot set custom sounds for different types of notifications.
95. No ringer profiles.
96. No silent option (no vibrate and no ring).
97. Cannot send/receive contact as a csv file.
true
98. Cannot backup sms to PC.
99. Cannot save contact to SIM card.
100. Cannot change alarm ring tone or use a MP3 file.
true


This post was by a hater, who did not research properly, and was blinded by his M$oft hate i guess :lol:

more than half of it is false , and rest are petty issues , except a few

if you want a smooth lag free experience with good battery life, use WP without any biases, you'll enjoy it. I did.

And if the few missing features are important to you , don't buy WP

but dont spread FUD
Thanks for confirming with these issues. Other WP users please confirm as well.

It's a bit suspicious anyway, this coming from a symbian forum :/. On other thoughts, why would any company want their products to suck? It's obvious that it'll be fixed sooner or later. (Not that I'm denying the other 40% major issues that WP has yet to fix.)

Tbh, if you talk of user experience issues, there's a longer list for android :p
 
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theserpent

Firecracker to the moon
Nokia thought WP would bring their life back? No it never will,
Nokia has the best hardware/durability with the worst software
 

Vyom

The Power of x480
Staff member
Admin
44 annoyances for windows phone 7.5

44 annoyances for windows phone 7.5

Hmm.. A petty attempt by the OP to fill up a list which sounds more like a rant. The way he/she have posted half baked truths about WP7 OS sounds more like he/she was given bribe to write against WP7.

Anyway, I have to praise SSK for separating many of the Facts from Rants. And to find out in what ways does WP7 "really" miss out I compiled the post by SSK with the original rants.

Here are the "Actual" list of things which are/may be valid for a WP7 device.

OS LIMITATIONS

2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality.
3. No mass storage mode.
4. No micro-SD card support.
6. No filemanager. Directory system is totally opaque.
8. Your contact details are automatically uploaded to cloud service whether you like it or not.
12. Cannot set static IP address so no connection to ad-hoc networks.
13. No VPN support for this “corporate enterprise” phone.
14. Cannot sync with Outlook.
16. System font size cannot be changed.
17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone.
18. Windows Live ID account cannot change country once set.
19. No centralized notification page.
20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this.
22. Only photos allowed as email attachments, documents not allowed.
23. Bluetooth cannot stream to car audio devices (no rSAP).
25. No support for full on-device encryption required for secure applications like mobile banking and online payment.
27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone.
28. Very limited customization option.

USABILITY ISSUES

48. Cannot select multiple pictures for deleting, sending or uploading. They must be done one at a time.
50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no way to group by category. Can be hard to find if you don’t remember the name.
51. Calendar scheduler has no weekly view and monthly view is non-zoomable.
52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email downloads.
53. If both wi-fi and data connection are available which one it chooses to use is unpredictable. User experiences don’t agree with Microsoft that it “typically” choose wi-fi over 3G.

FEATURE LIMITATIONS

58. No support for Java apps.
59. No call recording or app to do it.
61. No screenshots or app to do it.
65. FM radio doesn’t work on speaker.
66. IE browser has no text reflow, no download capability and no offline reading.
69. Cannot open zip or rar files received as email attachment.
71. Office Mobile has much less features than 3rd party Office editors like SmartOffice, QuickOffice and Polaris. Shame on you, Microsoft!
73. Email time stamp does not show the year.

DUMB AND DUMBER

76. One volume control for all functions including media playback, ringtones, alarms, notifications.
80. Cannot send/receive MMS without enabling 3G data connection. MMS does not use 3G data.
82. Need to be plugged in to wall charger to sync wirelessly (a funny definition of wireless).
85. Phone can be rebooted without unlocking to bypass security lock.

FEATURES EVEN DUMB PHONES HAVE BUT WP7.5 DOESN’T

87. Cannot handle USSD codes necessary for prepaid users to obtain services.
94. Cannot set custom sounds for different types of notifications.
95. No ringer profiles.
96. No silent option (no vibrate and no ring).
97. Cannot send/receive contact as a csv file.
98. Cannot backup sms to PC.
99. Cannot save contact to SIM card.
100. Cannot change alarm ring tone or use a MP3 file.
101. Cannot set alarm snooze interval.

So, there are in actual 44 annoyances (as I call it, not "reasons not to buy WP7 device"). And I will keep crossing them as and when some of them are proved wrong.
 

montsa007

~Bulletproof Monk~
Instead of 101 reasons, a simple reason could do good.

"Don't buy Windows phone because its not Android/Ios"
 

pratyush997

Inactive
Nokia's Meego platform was awesome!!
1st Mistake:-They dropped it!!
2nd Mistake:-They selected WP7
and now "Dhobi Ka Kutta Na Ghar ka na Ghat ka!!"
M$ played an awesome trick to death for Nokia!!
Finally it will result forcing Elop to sell Nokia to M$ or else elop will Say "We make Symbian Supersmartphones!!"
Better They wouldn't Drop Meego and Maemo Platforms!! and save their Future
Lolzzzzz... Who knows the future ??? Let see!!!
 
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