Smokin Ultra Durable M/B

[toshar]

Hi All

Apologize for not being active on the forum and updating posts when I need help.

System config - AM3+ FX6300, Gigabyte 970a DS3P, HyperX 12 Gigs DDR3, Rx 570 OC, CM Thunder 500w PSU.

The system was working gorgeously fine but didn't turn up again like two months ago suddenly. No accident and liquid spills noticed so far.

Issue- No boot beep or display., just blue cabinet lights comes on when I turn on the system, along with moving fan.

Troubleshoot I did :-
-Screwed out everything, cleaned everything, regreased CPU GPU PSU fans and die, plonked everything back = didn't boot. Behaved like same as it was before.
-Gave it to a know repair guy in Neheru place but he couldn't rectify the problem coz he didn't find spares so he returned the machine after 1 month.

• Gave it to another apple repair guy and he returned the machine again saying he didn;t find spares to check whats wrong. Took 1 month.. 1 month for a repair guy who workes in Neheru place. A**hole he was..
• Brought the machine back today, removed everything out again and left all in direct sunlight thinking this may rectify but it didn't.
• I installed just 1 RAM and GPU to check if its working now but magic smoke started coming out near CPU heatsink which has 'ULTRA DURABLE' mark mentioned on it.
• Tried it again with the diagnostic card installed and found same smoke just after turning the MB on.
• Removed the 4 pin cpu power cable and smoke didn't came out.
• No display or any boot beep was found in all scenarios.

Now

-Do we really have engineers left in Delhi NCR (probably Neheru Place) who happily accepts a m/b for chip level repair instead of saying "NAYA LELO"..
-What happens to old stock which was never purchased by customers? SCRAP ?
-Replacing the PC with new Ryzen is not practical and logical as it will cost anywhere above 20k, the one I was using happily running BF V at 60 FPS at ultra settings so ditching it is just not satisfying..
-Please advise and share details from where I can actually get this m/b repaired.
- I can purchase a new m/b if the service guy ensures that the problem is in M/b but not in RAM or GPU..

Please help.. using a mediocre 4 gigs laptop meanwhile..

PFA for video..

Thanks

 

[toshar]

 

[Desmond]

That looks like some serious damage. I don't think this is reparable. Perhaps it's time to retire your motherboard.

Old motherboards are generally recycled but rarely if someone has in stock you could get it but chances are slim, I think it would be best if you upgrade to a newer config.

 

[ankushv]

Mosfets look burned , and it may have taken some traces off too . You need to desolder the damaged mosfets and check traces after cleaning damaged area with ipa .

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[quicky008]

i think its the result of a botched repair job that was performed by that hack who called himself a technician.

 

[toshar]

@Desmond @ankushv @quicky008 @toxictaz
Negetive. Its beyond repairs coz of confirmed burnt traces. Cleaning it area made the PCB base visible. Wonder what caused this!.

Two things :-

• Computer Empire or Neheru place has plenty of basic H81 mobo which can be paired with i5 3rd gen and would cost ~7.5K.
• Wait for someone who can advise where to get old/refurbished board.

Few days ago there was an AM3+ socket mobo from some 'Consistent' Brand on Amazon.in with amazon certified for 3.5K. Its out of stock now, I should have got it instead of gigabyte.

C'mon guys, there must be some... some kind of solution to get this source again in India..
Requesting you all to please advise further course of action.

 

[topgear]

@Desmond @ankushv @quicky008 @toxictaz
Negetive. Its beyond repairs coz of confirmed burnt traces. Cleaning it area made the PCB base visible. Wonder what caused this!.

Two things :-

• Computer Empire or Neheru place has plenty of basic H81 mobo which can be paired with i5 3rd gen and would cost ~7.5K.
• Wait for someone who can advise where to get old/refurbished board.

Few days ago there was an AM3+ socket mobo from some 'Consistent' Brand on Amazon.in with amazon certified for 3.5K. Its out of stock now, I should have got it instead of gigabyte.

C'mon guys, there must be some... some kind of solution to get this source again in India..
Requesting you all to please advise further course of action.

Try FB marketplace or olx to get a compatible motherboard or try aliexprees.

 

[quicky008]

isnt aliexpress banned in india?

 

[Zangetsu]

-Do we really have engineers left in Delhi NCR (probably Neheru Place) who happily accepts a m/b for chip level repair instead of saying "NAYA LELO"..

That's the truth as even the Engineer cannot give you guarantee how long the repaired MB will work. I had the mobo issue in the past and it was Gigbyte. Took it to the Gigabyte official RMA center where they charge for out of warranty repairs. I was ready to pay but the engineer after testing told me to buy a new one.

 

[topgear]

isnt aliexpress banned in india?

Desktop browser works just fine on BSNL 3G connection

 

[toshar]

@bubusam13 Please go through the thread

 

[toshar]

Hi All

WRT to this thread, I am unable to find AM3+ motherboard with 970 or 990 chipset.
The available option I have is to ditch AMD and buy used intel 4th gen processor + mobo. Can keep my HyperX DDR3 this way.

Have searched few fb market place and found i5 4590 and i7 4770/90 for ₹2800 and ₹7500 respectivly to replace my FX6300.
New Biostar H81 mobo extra for ₹5800. (Neheru place is nearby to my place)

I know both chips are superior to FX6300 but confused which one to get.

Will I will be getting noticable extra performance from i7's 4 core 8 threads? As i5 is almost 1/3 price of i7.

I have RX570 GPU, 16 gigs hyperX D3 ram and Lg ultra wide monitor (21:9) as of now and use my the machine mostly for movies, internet surfing. Yet to play GTA4,5, COD IW onwards, BF V, etc.

I will be relocating soon so dont want to spend Ryzen money for now.
Please advice, i5 or i7.

PFA for cpu price list.

 

[topgear]

get i5 but seriously spending around 5.8K on a H81 motherboard makes no sense. You can also find one at much cheaper at FB market place.

 

[Nerevarine]

Yes get the i5 as its a transition processor, you will replace it with ryzen anyway

 

[pkkumarcool]

Mine old pc also got motherboard problem technicians say just to replace it I dont know why there is no repair option available here.

 

[toshar]

Okay..
So the available i5s are either T or S variants, somewhat inferior.

i7 3770 + H61 m/b = ₹9k
i7 4770 + H81 m/b = ₹10500

The guy has persnally suggested to buy 3rd gen coz of similar performance in games wrt price differnce but H61s doesnt come with Sata 6gbps and Usb 3.0 ports.
Now what!

 

[quicky008]

i7 4th gen looks like a better choice-its a bit more updated and also supports the avx2 instruction set that the 3rd gen does not.Btw are you getting a new h81 mobo or a 2nd hand mobo?

However be advised that the i7s are known to run a bit hot as compared to i5s/i3s etc ,hence you may have to invest in an aftermarket cooler to keep the temps of the cpu within acceptable limits.

 

[topgear]

Okay..
So the available i5s are either T or S variants, somewhat inferior.

i7 3770 + H61 m/b = ₹9k
i7 4770 + H81 m/b = ₹10500

The guy has persnally suggested to buy 3rd gen coz of similar performance in games wrt price differnce but H61s doesnt come with Sata 6gbps and Usb 3.0 ports.
Now what!

I still run the second combo get the 4th gen.

 

[toshar]

I dont know why there is no repair option available here.

I met with an engineer with chip-level repair knowledge who accepted my motherboard for repair but then said the traces are burnt to three layers and any repair wont last long considering the heat generated in powering a FX processor so better to get a new one. What Mobo you have? AM3+?

supports the avx2 instruction set that the 3rd gen does not.Btw are you getting a new h81 mobo or a 2nd hand mobo?

However be advised that the i7s are known to run a bit hot as compared to i5s/i3s etc ,hence you may have to invest in an aftermarket cooler to keep the temps of the cpu within acceptable limits.

Okay. I will finalize i7 4770 considering newer then 3rd gen, both of them will be way faster then Fx 6300 anyways but TBH I literally had no complaints with the AMD.
These motherboards and processors are used and pulled out from. Err.. I don't know. Seller is providing 1 month warranty on processor and 1 Year on Mobo (Either Giga or Asus). Sounds good enough.
I have CM Hyper 212X to keep i7 cool.

One more thing I want to confirm. I have never used SSD before but gonna get one now primarily for Windows drive and found SATA SSD < M.2 < NVMe in terms of speed so If I buy NVMe of 128 GB of x brand then where to plonk it or what else would be best for me.

This is the mobo I will be getting probably - GA-H81M-S1 (rev. 1.0) Overview | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

 

[topgear]

I met with an engineer with chip-level repair knowledge who accepted my motherboard for repair but then said the traces are burnt to three layers and any repair wont last long considering the heat generated in powering a FX processor so better to get a new one. What Mobo you have? AM3+?


Okay. I will finalize i7 4770 considering newer then 3rd gen, both of them will be way faster then Fx 6300 anyways but TBH I literally had no complaints with the AMD.
These motherboards and processors are used and pulled out from. Err.. I don't know. Seller is providing 1 month warranty on processor and 1 Year on Mobo (Either Giga or Asus). Sounds good enough.
I have CM Hyper 212X to keep i7 cool.

One more thing I want to confirm. I have never used SSD before but gonna get one now primarily for Windows drive and found SATA SSD < M.2 < NVMe in terms of speed so If I buy NVMe of 128 GB of x brand then where to plonk it or what else would be best for me.

This is the mobo I will be getting probably - GA-H81M-S1 (rev. 1.0) Overview | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

don't get the NVME ssd as there's no slot to mount it on H81. Better get a sata SSD and you shall see noticeable improvement in boot, shutdown and overall system response time.