Need Suggestion for New PC building

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aby geek

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Cooler master ml 240r is better than 240l v2.
Kitguru mentions that h100x performs better than the arctic freezer ll 240 and even h115i but overall score for h100x is 8.5 and arctic got 9.

I don't see arctic liquid freezer selling anywhere online. Its out of stock at mdcomputers listed @ 8800rs.
What is the correct pricing for it.

And how much height clearance do we need to select a cabinet ?
 
TheSloth

TheSloth

The Slowest One
FE cards are decent if the case has good airflow and ambient temps are not too hot like peak summer of Delhi. Price wise they are too good to ignore today. But no point in talking about it unless you are 100% sure you can get one.
 
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Techkon9

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omega44-xt said:
120mm AIOs are a waste of money IMO. The cheap 4.4k Arctic Freezer Duo will outperform it for thermals & noise. AIOs are aesthetically more pleasing though.

Seriously, check this link I posted earlier:
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB Cooler Review - KitGuru

Arctic Freezer II 240 selected by OP is good. CM ML240L V2 is a good 2nd choice for AIO. Deepcool Castle is noisy, hence lower temps as well though. H100x is older version of H100i apparently & is the same case as Castle:
Corsair H100x Liquid Cooler Review - KitGuru
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Yes Artic is worth every penny
 
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Techkon9

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Techkon9 said:
So Here is the Updated Build i have sent to the my Pc vendor.

Build1:
CPU - Intel i9 10850K - 37k

CPU cooler - Artic Freezer || 240 - 8.8K;

Mobo - MSI MAPG Z490 TOMAHAWK - 20K

RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz Mostly Ripjaw V - 8k

GPU - As we had discussion will buy a cheap or second gpu for now(will update after a list i get from vendor)

M.2 SSD - WD SN550 500GB - 5k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB - 3k

PSU - Antec HCG 750W Gold - 7.9K

Cabinet - Deepcool Matrexx 55 4F / Lian Li 215 - 5K; whichever is available

This is Going 95K without temp gpu price. which is fine.

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Build 2:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 3900X around 45k

CPU cooler - Artic Freezer || 240 - 8.8K;

Mobo - Asus TUF gaming x570 - 18.4k

RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz Mostly Ripjaw V - 8k

GPU - As we had discussion will buy a cheap or second gpu for now(will update after a list i get from vendor)

M.2 SSD - WD SN550 500GB - 5k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB - 3k

PSU - Antec HCG 750W Gold - 7.9K

Cabinet - Deepcool Matrexx 55 4F / Lian Li 215 - 5K; whichever is available

This is Going 1.016K without temp GPU price. It would be great if I get R9 3900X at somewhere between 39-41K. coz then only i can manage to get this specification between 95k-96K(which could be awesome).
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By the way instead of G skill Ripjaw V 3200Mhz, I can go G. skill sniper X 16GB(2*8gb) 3600Mhz it for 7.5K so some saved plus increased Mhz.
 
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aby geek

Cyborg Agent
Ryzen 3 series support upto 3600mhz so yes you can go with that ram frequency.
Ryzen 5800x and over support speeds upto 4000mhz. If you are not going to upgrade to ryzen 5000 in future then you should pick up 3600hz if you think you might upgrade few years down the line you can go with higher speeds.

Whatever frequency you go for, with the 3900x higher clock rams will downclock to run at 3600mhz.
 
omega44-xt

omega44-xt

Gear up ...
Techkon9 said:
By the way instead of G skill Ripjaw V 3200Mhz, I can go G. skill sniper X 16GB(2*8gb) 3600Mhz it for 7.5K so some saved plus increased Mhz.
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That is a CL19 3600MHz but is still a good one, go with that. Lower CL means better, higher freq is better. You have to use XMP profile, if you are up for it, tune timings manually.
 
omega44-xt

omega44-xt

Gear up ...
aby geek said:
Cooler master ml 240r is better than 240l v2.
Kitguru mentions that h100x performs better than the arctic freezer ll 240 and even h115i but overall score for h100x is 8.5 and arctic got 9.

I don't see arctic liquid freezer selling anywhere online. Its out of stock at mdcomputers listed @ 8800rs.
What is the correct pricing for it.

And how much height clearance do we need to select a cabinet ?
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Noise is something that's always a part of the equation. H100x is noisy:
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I'm not sure if OP can find that Arctic one, but many times local dealers find stuff not listed online or at cheaper price than online, esp dealers of Tier 1 cities, usually Mumbai, Delhi, Pune guys.
 
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Techkon9

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omega44-xt said:
That is a CL19 3600MHz but is still a good one, go with that. Lower CL means better, higher freq is better. You have to use XMP profile, if you are up for it, tune timings manually.
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sorry need a bit on XMP profile. Also instead of Asys TUF X570 How is MSI MAG B550 TOMAHANK coz both have similar only but B550 is bit low in price. even though Asus is good with Motheboard
 
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Techkon9

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aby geek said:
Ryzen 3 series support upto 3600mhz so yes you can go with that ram frequency.
Ryzen 5800x and over support speeds upto 4000mhz. If you are not going to upgrade to ryzen 5000 in future then you should pick up 3600hz if you think you might upgrade few years down the line you can go with higher speeds.

Whatever frequency you go for, with the 3900x higher clock rams will downclock to run at 3600mhz.
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yaaa 3600 is fine then
 
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Techkon9

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omega44-xt said:
Noise is something that's always a part of the equation. H100x is noisy:
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I'm not sure if OP can find that Arctic one, but many times local dealers find stuff not listed online or at cheaper price than online, esp dealers of Tier 1 cities, usually Mumbai, Delhi, Pune guys.
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if the vendor from whom i am buying doesn't have this then will try to get it separately from whoever has it for sale.
 
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Techkon9

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omega44-xt said:
120mm AIOs are a waste of money IMO. The cheap 4.4k Arctic Freezer Duo will outperform it for thermals & noise. AIOs are aesthetically more pleasing though.

Seriously, check this link I posted earlier:
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB Cooler Review - KitGuru

Arctic Freezer II 240 selected by OP is good. CM ML240L V2 is a good 2nd choice for AIO. Deepcool Castle is noisy, hence lower temps as well though. H100x is older version of H100i apparently & is the same case as Castle:
Corsair H100x Liquid Cooler Review - KitGuru
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tthat artic freezer || 240 you suggested is 120ml only na?
 
omega44-xt

omega44-xt

Gear up ...
Techkon9 said:
sorry need a bit on XMP profile. Also instead of Asys TUF X570 How is MSI MAG B550 TOMAHANK coz both have similar only but B550 is bit low in price. even though Asus is good with Motheboard
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Ryzen CPUs don't run a 3600MHz at 3600MHz by default, maybe at 2400/2666MHz, so you have to go to BIOS & enable the XMP profile for the RAM. Manual tuning is memory OC stuff.

B550 Tomahawk is a great B550 mobo & sufficient for most. But you can go even cheaper if you want. IMO MSI B550 Gaming Plus at 14.5k is a great VFM mobo if you want to cut costs w/o sacrificing quality much. 3900X OC consumes up to 180W, I think:

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omega44-xt

omega44-xt

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Techkon9 said:
those rptech guys has this i m not sure if they will sell as they are distributers
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RPTech is the only official seller of Nvidia FE cards
Techkon9 said:
if the vendor from whom i am buying doesn't have this then will try to get it separately from whoever has it for sale.
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Can ask sellers in this group: AkExtacY - Cheapest PC Parts Marketplace

Techkon9 said:
tthat artic freezer || 240 you suggested is 120ml only na?
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What's 120mL? 240 means 240mm i.e. 2x 120mm fans.
 
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