Help regarding configuration (budget Rs.30000-Rs.32000)

[abhijit_reddevil]

Hello,

I am back to this forum after a long time. Hello to all!

I wish to replace the main components of my current desktop (AMD 3000+, 2GB DDR RAM, XFX 6800GS, Asus A8N-E). I wish to keep my monitor, the DVD-RW drive, the 80GB HDD and the the basic components. I wish to buy the processor, motherboard, graphics card (DX10 or DX11 compliant), 4GB RAM (preferably DDR3), a 320GB/500GB HDD and a power supply (if it is at all required, presently I have a 450W SMPS). My budget is Rs.30000-Rs.32000 for all the components and this machine should last 1.5-2 yrs for gaming at 1280x1024. I have decided on both AMD and Intel based configurations. Please give your suggestions.

AMD based (cheaper):

Athlon II X4 620
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 (DX11 support)
2 X 2GB DDR3 1333
Seagate 500GB
ATX 450W (will this be sufficient?).

I was thinking of AMD Phenom II X2 550 and Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 as alternatives. Will this be a viable option? What will be the prices of each?

Intel based (more expensive):

Core i5-750 2.66Ghz
Asus P7P55D-EVO
Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 (DX11 support)
2 X 2GB DDR3 1333
Seagate 500GB
ATX 450W (will this be sufficient?).

I already have an Antec SLK 3000B ATX cabinet with an extra fan installed which I intend to use. Do I need to buy a cabinet too?

Thank you for your replies.

 

[hell_storm2006]

Check this thread. Its similar to your needs.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122202

Also are you planning to get the AMD one or the i5 one. There's a huge price gap between the two rigs. If your budget allows i5. Also just wait an see at what prices i9's are launched. If you can get that, it would be great! But i guess, pricess would be 20k around for proccy alone!

 

[abhijit_reddevil]

Intel based one is more expensive, I am more inclined towards AMD. Also the m/b should have o/c'ing features as had I o/c'ed my AMD 3000+ (1.8Ghz) to around 2.5Ghz previously and successfully.

 

[hell_storm2006]

Well then read that thread and select the parts mentioned there! If you plan to spend 10k on processor then go for AMD 955 BE would be fine! Biostar TA790GXBE. That's all!

 

[desiibond]

Given huge performance difference between HD5770 and GTX275/HD4890, why not go for the latter

 

[asingh]

@OP:

Roughly the prices would be as such:

Athlon II X4 620 - 5400
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO - 7025
Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 (DX11 support) - 10600
2 X 2GB DDR3 1333 - Corsair TW3X4G-1333C9 4GB Kit - 7688
Seagate 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 @ 500GB SATA - 2371
ATX 450W (will this be sufficient?). Tagan BZ500(modular) - 4463

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Total: 37547
@2.5% Tax: 939
Overall Total: 38486

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Core i5-750 2.66Ghz - 10150
Asus P7P55D-EVO - 15734
Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 (DX11 support) - 10600
2 X 2GB DDR3 1333 - Corsair TW3X4G-1333C9 4GB Kit - 7688
Seagate 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 @ 500GB SATA - 2371
ATX 450W (will this be sufficient?). Tagan BZ500(modular) - 4463

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Total: 51006
@2.5% Tax: 1275
Overall Total: 51945

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This should give you the price differential between the two. I have suggested a 500W PSU, that is better, since it will give you headroom for OC and future upgrades.

For Intel, cheaper motherboards are available. You could get a MSI P55 chipset for around RS. 7350, which saves you quite a bit of money, and bring the Intel cost down to ~ RS 43561.

Basically to remain within your budget and with Intel, you will have to compromise on high speed RAM, GPU power, PSU comfort.

With AMD you can get the best, but its an older package -- in terms of chipset.

Choice is yours. Of course these figures can be further tweaked depending on the deal you get for various products.

All prices as per lynx.com

 

[desiibond]

Athlon II X4 620 - 5400
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO - 7025
Palit GTX275 Sonic: 13k
2 X 2GB DDR3 1333 - transcend 4GB Kit - 5k-5.5k
Seagate 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 @ 500GB SATA - 2371
Tagan BZ500(modular) - 4463

this should give better performance.

 

[abhijit_reddevil]

I can understand the Intel config is becoming expensive and is beyond my budget. As for the graphics card, I want to stick to 5770 preferably. Would buying a 512MB 4870 a good option? I would be open to any Nvidia based card with comparable performance to a 4870, if that makes the config a little cheaper. And I never thought that 4GB RAM would cost close to Rs.8000...

Are the prices for the 57xx and 48xx and GTX series cards expected to fall anytime soon?

 

[asingh]

^^
5xxx series are over priced as of now, due to low availability of the cores and really high demand. You can go for a 512MB GPU variant if you will play at 17". Even till 19" it is fine (though I do not prefer that), but upwards you need 1GB. Better to get a 1GB card, and be future proof. You could look at PowerColor HD4850 512MB DDR-III @ 6563, or the Asus GF9800GT 512MB DDR-III @ 6248.

I suggested you the Corsair RAM. You can look at RAM which D.Bond suggested. It is good. It will be EPP @ 1333, so you will need to change the DRAM:FSB ratios, so get an OC motherboard.

Regarding price fall...well it is 'like predicting the weather'. Nice if it happens, pissing off -- if it does not....!

Word of advice:
What ever you buy, just do not compromise on the PSU.

 

[abhijit_reddevil]

How about the Corsair VX450 for the choice of SMPS?

No one mentioned about the Antec ATX cabinet. Do I really need to replace it?

How much is expected of my old rig (purchased in 2006)?

 

[desiibond]

1) HD5770 is definitely better than HD4850. faster, low on power, low on temperature but it just doesn't justify the 10.5k price tag.

2) if you are going to do FullHD gaming soon, better stick to 1GB

3) instead of putting 8k on ram, get Trasncend or Kingston RAM for 5.5k-6k and put the 2k-2.5k saved on a better card like GTX275 or HD4890, both are available for some 13k

4) HD5xxx prices are not going to fall anytime soon. All lies in the hands of Nvidia's Fermi.

 

[Cool G5]

You can offcourse run it on VX 450 but a 500W PSU is just added in case you add some component in future. I think you should get atleast Rs.1000 out of your old config since you're not selling your monitor & other peripherals. No need of a new cabinet.

 

[asingh]

@OP:

With reference to D.Bonds golden words, if you into gaming go for the best GPU you can afford. It will probably be the costliest part in your rig. Its all right to go for value RAM, not that much of a performance difference.

The CPU has greater scope for OC, and performance can be increased.

Also as CoolG5 said, better to leave headroom for the PSU. The 500W is just perfect for you. Plus the Tagan modular looks just so yummy.....!

 

[Krow]

I am for BZ500W. Modular PSU means no mess of cable management too.

Okay OP, for OCing, MSI 790GX-G65 @ 7k will be better. If not that, then get Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H as it is for 5.5k and as good as the ASUS board minus the crossfire option. Crossfire in the ASUS board is in x4 mode, which is practically speaking, useless. Plus Gigabyte has much better A.S.S.

Get Kingston 2x2GB 1333MHz DDR3, which is for 4.6k in Mumbai.

As for a dealer, I would like to recommend thunder.02dragon (member of this forum). His website, www.exoduspc.in

He assembles PC's with cable management too and provides very good service from what other forum members have been saying about him.

 

[asingh]

Or he could do this...

Core i5-750 2.66Ghz - 10150
Asus P7P55D-EVO - 7370
Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 (DX11 support) - 10600
2 X 2GB DDR3 1333 - Kingston 4 GB - 4600
Seagate 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 @ 500GB SATA - 2371
ATX 450W (will this be sufficient?). Tagan BZ500(modular) - 4463

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Total: RS 39554.

This is the best for i5+P55. Now to lessen the OP can lower the PSU to 450W or lower the GPU.

 

[Krow]

What does OP need the rig for? Let us decide based on that. There is no need to buy i5 if usage is not that way. Besides, I feel biased towards AMD by looking at the thread title.

 

[abhijit_reddevil]

What does OP need the rig for? Let us decide based on that. There is no need to buy i5 if usage is not that way. Besides, I feel biased towards AMD by looking at the thread title.

If I am investing in a separate GPU, then I am of course buying this rig for gaming. And yes, I also am biased towards AMD.

Let's see what I am getting (prices from www.deltapage.com).

Athlon II X4 620 - Rs.5325
Gigabyte MA785GMT-UD2H - Rs.5500
Radeon 5770 1GB - Rs.10600
Kingston 4GB DDR3 RAM - Rs.4600
Seagate 500GB - Rs.2500
PSU 500W - Tagan BZ500 - Rs.4463

Comes to Rs.32988.

This is the best GPU I can afford at present. Does the M/b support o/c ing?

How will be the performance for this?

 

[Krow]

Yes it does support OCing. But if you can hold yourself a while then best do that as the onboard GPU can play most games at 800x600 including Crysis. Wait a month or so and then see nvidia launch DX11 cards and ATI crash prices, then choose your card accordingly.

I recommend you get a 1TB HDD as at 4k, it is utmost VFM. Performance ofcourse will be great.

 

[ssk_the_gr8]

If I am investing in a separate GPU, then I am of course buying this rig for gaming. And yes, I also am biased towards AMD.

Let's see what I am getting (prices from www.deltapage.com).

Athlon II X4 620 - Rs.5325
Gigabyte MA785GMT-UD2H - Rs.5500
Radeon 5770 1GB - Rs.10600
Kingston 4GB DDR3 RAM - Rs.4600
Seagate 500GB - Rs.2500
PSU 500W - Tagan BZ500 - Rs.4463

Comes to Rs.32988.

This is the best GPU I can afford at present. Does the M/b support o/c ing?

How will be the performance for this?

this is a fine rig u can go with it.
it will give you good performance....
it does support oc'ing
OffTopic: u dont seem to come to the football channel now a days

 

[abhijit_reddevil]

this is a fine rig u can go with it.
it will give you good performance....
it does support oc'ing
OffTopic: u dont seem to come to the football channel now a days

Planning to get the rig in december-late december. Maybe the prices of the 58xx series card will fall.

Coming to the forum after a long time, but I am still following EPL...ManU is not playing so well this season.