quadroplex780
Maximum Fame
Ahh..amm
List of res for games on 360 and PS3 shows that even ps3 isn't that good but ahead of 360
List of res for games on 360 and PS3 shows that even ps3 isn't that good but ahead of 360
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naveen_reloaded
!! RecuZant By Birth !!
thnks for he quote .. but wht is the real point...??
and antoher thing .. can anyone say which is the best ever graphically spectacular game for ps3 ???
and antoher thing .. can anyone say which is the best ever graphically spectacular game for ps3 ???
nish_higher
Wise Old Owl
^ yes , Uncharted rocks ! 
quadroplex780
Maximum Fame
^^I think the best eye candy is seen on Heavenly Sowrd 720p 4xAA.
@others Don't come to me saying that I am a graphics whore or something I am just answering naveens question.
@others Don't come to me saying that I am a graphics whore or something I am just answering naveens question.
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
For me Resolution Does not matter as far as the GFX Quality is good(720p is enuf) and the most important part is Gameplay .
Gamin is 80% Gameplay n 15% Sound n 5%GFX . Yeah , the soundtrack matters more than the GFX , coz a bad soundtrack is a total Turn-off .
And as for GFX Quality , both Current-Gen output almost the same quality so it Finally boils down to Gameplay and which console has more(and better) games .
I'd rather Play at 720p With much better visuals n AA rather than bland looking at 1080p.
Gamin is 80% Gameplay n 15% Sound n 5%GFX . Yeah , the soundtrack matters more than the GFX , coz a bad soundtrack is a total Turn-off .
And as for GFX Quality , both Current-Gen output almost the same quality so it Finally boils down to Gameplay and which console has more(and better) games .
I'd rather Play at 720p With much better visuals n AA rather than bland looking at 1080p.
ring_wraith
=--=l33t=--=
Oh come on! How can you possibly deny that the PS3 will eventually be the winning console? Someone bump this thread in a year and then i can say "told you so".
Zeeshan, agreed current gen games have the same graphics, but that is only because game devs have not learnt how to make full potential of the PS3 yet! Till Crysis came along, no-one knew how to harness the full potential of 2x8800 Ultras in SLi! Bland looking 1080p??? what does that even mean?? The Visuals will be the same if and usually better on the PS3.
According to your 80% gameplay, 15% sound and 5% Gfx formula, then I can safely say that you should invest in a 8-bit video game and forget about PS3, X360 etc. 8-bit Video Games had awesome gameplay, good sound and lame GFx.
But would you do so??
Zeeshan, agreed current gen games have the same graphics, but that is only because game devs have not learnt how to make full potential of the PS3 yet! Till Crysis came along, no-one knew how to harness the full potential of 2x8800 Ultras in SLi! Bland looking 1080p??? what does that even mean?? The Visuals will be the same if and usually better on the PS3.
According to your 80% gameplay, 15% sound and 5% Gfx formula, then I can safely say that you should invest in a 8-bit video game and forget about PS3, X360 etc. 8-bit Video Games had awesome gameplay, good sound and lame GFx.
But would you do so??
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
That's why i said i was talking bout Current-Gen consoles .
Coz in current gen consoles , GFX are almost same on both Consoles , so it's not like the other console wil be like 100 times better than one.
Thus while deciding between Xbox 360 n PS3 , i'd concentrate more on the gameplay element .
infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
I could infer these things after reading all the posts:
1) Zeeshan owns 360 so he's justifying buying the same
2) Nish owns 360 so he's justifying buying the same
3) Naveen owns PS3 so he's justifying buying the same
4) Metalhead's justifying buying the PS3 coz he's a Linux fan
5) ctrl_at_del owns 360
6) krazy owns PS3
7) cyrus owns/plans to own PS3
8 ) Metalhead still believes emulating PS3 is like landing on the sun while emulating 360 is like landing on the moon.
9) Some people believe PS3 still uses Emotion Engine which is not true for present gen PS3.
10) The thread starter is nowhere to be seen!
Hehe... no offense guys.. just trying to make the atmosphere a bit lighter
Lets look where Xbox 360 gains:
1) Use of Direct-X like API means game companies do li'l to port the games to XBox which directly translates into More Games in Less Time!
2) Custom GPU built by ATi hence we can expect better integration overall.
3) Unified shaders.
Where Xbox has roadblocks:
1) Use of generic 3 core Xenon CPU which is less powerful than Cell.
2) CPU can share very limited or no amount of GPU's work.
3) Latency issues between cache and CPU
4) Achieving correct Thread level parallelism is all upto the programmer (his headache) and requires much effort (In layman's terms its like deciding what job is done by which core). Hence optimization is not an easy task.
Where PS3 scores:
1) Cell proc. is an all-in-one proc much powerful than Xenon.
2) Achieving parallelism is not difficult as in Xenon coz the Cell was built with this in mind. Optimization becomes simpler.
3) RAM is better integrated with Cell which mitigates latency issues.
4) Cell can share the load of GPU.
Where PS3 sux:
1) Unfamiliar API. Which means less games as of now than 360.
2) Discrete Shaders.
3) Use of PCI-E bus for interconnection of CPU and GPU (We dunno whether its a pro or con coz there is very limited info about Xbox360's bus architecture).
4) GPU is more generic.
PS3 hardware is underutilized. Technically, PS3 arch. is superior to 360. But Xbox360 is ahead of PS3 in terms of units sold coz it has the support of many complementing things (DirectX is the biggest which eases the work of progarmmers by making things re-usable!). However optimization if difficult.
Note that I hafnt included PS3's BluRay as a plus point coz I think as of today this point is completely absurd. So whats the conclusion? Conclusion is if you wanna play games today Get Xbox. If you want your console to last for sometime Get PS3. Not that MS will sit quiet and not upgrade Xbox but that Sony already has a much advanced and proven platform (the whole arch.) and needs to do li'l work for upgradation (mebbe just GPU).
I hope I bored you enuf with technicals things. Thats it for today! Enuf of this technical bull$h1t!
PS: Someone said Cell is optimized for FPU while Xenon is not (or something lke that). I'd like to read about it. Do you haf something to back up this claim?
1) Zeeshan owns 360 so he's justifying buying the same
2) Nish owns 360 so he's justifying buying the same
3) Naveen owns PS3 so he's justifying buying the same
4) Metalhead's justifying buying the PS3 coz he's a Linux fan
5) ctrl_at_del owns 360
6) krazy owns PS3
7) cyrus owns/plans to own PS3
8 ) Metalhead still believes emulating PS3 is like landing on the sun while emulating 360 is like landing on the moon.
9) Some people believe PS3 still uses Emotion Engine which is not true for present gen PS3.
10) The thread starter is nowhere to be seen!
Hehe... no offense guys.. just trying to make the atmosphere a bit lighter
Lets look where Xbox 360 gains:
1) Use of Direct-X like API means game companies do li'l to port the games to XBox which directly translates into More Games in Less Time!
2) Custom GPU built by ATi hence we can expect better integration overall.
3) Unified shaders.
Where Xbox has roadblocks:
1) Use of generic 3 core Xenon CPU which is less powerful than Cell.
2) CPU can share very limited or no amount of GPU's work.
3) Latency issues between cache and CPU
4) Achieving correct Thread level parallelism is all upto the programmer (his headache) and requires much effort (In layman's terms its like deciding what job is done by which core). Hence optimization is not an easy task.
Where PS3 scores:
1) Cell proc. is an all-in-one proc much powerful than Xenon.
2) Achieving parallelism is not difficult as in Xenon coz the Cell was built with this in mind. Optimization becomes simpler.
3) RAM is better integrated with Cell which mitigates latency issues.
4) Cell can share the load of GPU.
Where PS3 sux:
1) Unfamiliar API. Which means less games as of now than 360.
2) Discrete Shaders.
3) Use of PCI-E bus for interconnection of CPU and GPU (We dunno whether its a pro or con coz there is very limited info about Xbox360's bus architecture).
4) GPU is more generic.
PS3 hardware is underutilized. Technically, PS3 arch. is superior to 360. But Xbox360 is ahead of PS3 in terms of units sold coz it has the support of many complementing things (DirectX is the biggest which eases the work of progarmmers by making things re-usable!). However optimization if difficult.
Note that I hafnt included PS3's BluRay as a plus point coz I think as of today this point is completely absurd. So whats the conclusion? Conclusion is if you wanna play games today Get Xbox. If you want your console to last for sometime Get PS3. Not that MS will sit quiet and not upgrade Xbox but that Sony already has a much advanced and proven platform (the whole arch.) and needs to do li'l work for upgradation (mebbe just GPU).
I hope I bored you enuf with technicals things. Thats it for today! Enuf of this technical bull$h1t!
PS: Someone said Cell is optimized for FPU while Xenon is not (or something lke that). I'd like to read about it. Do you haf something to back up this claim?
nish_higher
Wise Old Owl
^ remove my name i'm getting my PS3 in 1st week of march
read my 1st post in this thread
and the guy bought Xbox 360
i'm getting my PS3 in 1st week of march read my 1st post in this thread
and the guy bought Xbox 360
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infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
Yeah read it after I posted. But I wasn't wrong^ remove my name
read my 1st post in this thread
Yep, whatever. I just posted the technical details of both so that all Xbox vs. PS3 threads could refer to this
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
*xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p2.html
And BTW , The 2 TeraFlops claimed Performance of the PS3 is of the GPU .
The Actual PS3 CPU has a Performance of 218 GFlops .
The GPU is a different game altogether and it is not suited for General Purpose Computing .
IGN Peformance Comparison:
*xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/617/617951/microsofts-xbox-360-vs-sonys-playstation-3-20050520041729831.jpg
*xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/617/617951/microsofts-xbox-360-vs-sonys-playstation-3-20050520041730612.jpg
Via IGN:
*xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p2.html
Via Gamespot:
*www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/read_article.php?topic_id=21827432&union_id=1756
@infra_red_dude , The Generic'ness of the Xbox 360 CPU is it's power as it is much adept at performing generic calculations the one that are needed for AI programming and all and lets the GPU do all the GFX work whereas the Cell has only 1 General Purpose Core and 7other SPE'f that are ill suited to AI programming and are more adept at FPU's which are very very uncommon in AI Programming .
Same Goes for the RAM , the X360 has 512MB Unified RAM which can be used by both the CPU and the GPU as per the need . Whereas the PS3 has 256 MB each for CPU and GPU .
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infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
Thanks for the link. Going thru it now.
Teraflops is NOT a measure of performance and thats why I never mentioned it as a pro or con for either PS3 or XBox.
I never made this point. Being an electronics guy I understand these technical stuffs well.
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
nah , it wasn't for you . But someone else who Touted the 2 Teraflops thing of the PS3 .
Cyrus_the_virus
Unmountable Boot Volume
I guess the beginner of the thread has his answer with the poll. This is the third poll I've seen with the same result.
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
Yeah and he Decided otherwise .I guess the beginner of the thread has his answer with the poll. This is the third poll I've seen with the same result.
Bought an Xbox 360
Cyrus_the_virus
Unmountable Boot Volume
Yeah and he Decided otherwise .
Bought an Xbox 360
So, what difference does that make now? make the poll 15-3?
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
Means whatever PS3 fanboys say , Xbox 360 won !So, what difference does that make now? make the poll 15-3?
Peace . This discussion is only done for entertainment !
nish_higher
Wise Old Owl
i think mods should close this thread now and reopen it on 28th Feb,2009 to see which console rules then (don't answer that below my post now)
m-jeri
Caballero de Real Madrid
i think mods should close this thread now and reopen it on 28th Feb,2009 to see which console rules then (don't answer that below my post now)
Peace brothers.....and zeeshan....no...winning is still far to go...so stop being stubborn....
.....and yes..for this thread only x360 won hands down.....
Cyrus_the_virus
Unmountable Boot Volume
Are you reading with upside-down glasses or ignoring what people in this thread voted for?
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