The Windows Mobile Thread
Gaurav Bhattacharjee
Tensor
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Totally aware. But, like you said.... no stickers. And you know today's girls, every other message is a sticker.
Plus, I loved the FB Messenger app ever since I laid eyes on it.
Totally aware. But, like you said.... no stickers. And you know today's girls, every other message is a sticker.
Plus, I loved the FB Messenger app ever since I laid eyes on it.
ithehappy
Human Spambot
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Thanks for your reply mate.
Great. Rattling vibration, that's what I want. While using these Samsung top end line for past three/four years that's the thing I am missing throughout this period, faint vibration, I can't feel while it's in my pocket, that caused me so many missed calls. I just want the good old rattling vibration back, that buzzing strong vibration which literally did shake your pocket
Thanks for your reply mate.
pranav0091
I am not an Owl
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Do check it yourself personally if you can.
Great. Rattling vibration, that's what I want. While using these Samsung top end line for past three/four years that's the thing I am missing throughout this period, faint vibration, I can't feel while it's in my pocket, that caused me so many missed calls. I just want the good old rattling vibration back, that buzzing strong vibration which literally did shake your pocket
Thanks for your reply mate.
Do check it yourself personally if you can.
maverick786us
Padawan
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
What would you say about the ISP of SD 801, which has 41% better image processing algorithm than 800, Mr. Pranav Mukharjee?
What would you say about the ISP of SD 801, which has 41% better image processing algorithm than 800, Mr. Pranav Mukharjee?
pranav0091
I am not an Owl
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Still not enough. ~40% better than 20 mp isnt much closer to 40mp. Gotta wait for the S805 => 50mp support. That is assuming the next one want to get rid of the obnoxious shot-to-shot lag. Else even the S800 is fine - only keep hacking it up more and more.
Still not enough. ~40% better than 20 mp isnt much closer to 40mp. Gotta wait for the S805 => 50mp support. That is assuming the next one want to get rid of the obnoxious shot-to-shot lag. Else even the S800 is fine - only keep hacking it up more and more.
maverick786us
Padawan
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Megapixel isn't everything. Even if your smartphone has 20MP camera with a sensor big enough to capture 3X lossless zoom, good images under normal lightening as well as low light, with no noise or softness, then its good. I used my colleagues iPhone 5s, and Onething that I like about it was that I could continously take pictures with hardly a lag of .5 seconds. Can the image sensor of SD 801 can take burst shot pictures of 20MP without loosing the quality or focus?
Megapixel isn't everything. Even if your smartphone has 20MP camera with a sensor big enough to capture 3X lossless zoom, good images under normal lightening as well as low light, with no noise or softness, then its good. I used my colleagues iPhone 5s, and Onething that I like about it was that I could continously take pictures with hardly a lag of .5 seconds. Can the image sensor of SD 801 can take burst shot pictures of 20MP without loosing the quality or focus?
pranav0091
I am not an Owl
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
I dont intend to mean megapixel is everything - it isnt. But the L1020 sensor has 40 MP which needs to be processed per image and therefore the need for high MP processing per second from the processor.
Lossless zoom, as in its implementation in the L1020, is a function of the number of megapixels in the sensor, and not of sensor size.
Shot to shot time is a combination of various smaller time periods, the chief of which are
1. Time to lock focus
2. Time to apply post processing
3. Time to completely flush the image buffer into the internal/external memory
In most phone cameras 1,2,3 all take comparable amount of time. But since a full shot from the L1020 sensor has 40 megapixels to process and the the processor is not able to handle it generally, Nokia had to hack the ISP pipeline of the processor to make it able to process the massive files. this meant that the processing of the image took a lot longer than 1. The side effect of large sensor (but unrelated to the processor's ability to process it) is the longer time it takes to flush the entire image into the memory, so that the buffer is ready to hold a fresh image (More MB == more time to copy).
So you see that the way to improve the shot to shot duration of the L1020 is not easy since to do that you have to improve both 2 and 3. 2 can be helped by giving it a better processor (thats why you need the 805) and 3 by using faster internal memory. But here is the catch - faster internal memory is also more expensive and in any case at 40MBps speed, you are going to have a hefty premium => even more expensive than it already is. There is a way to get sround this - use more than one buffer to hold the image, and use them alternatively - which is exactly what I think Nokia is using in the L1020 (Now you see why it has 2GB of RAM ?).
Some of the stuff here is speculation, but not a blind rant. Do you now get it why I am skeptical of Nokia's L1020 successor being not in the horizon any time soon ?
1. => Faster processor can help.
2. => Faster processor can help.
3. => Not much can help outside of increased bufferring. Over time as faster memory becomes cheaper, you can see this part improve.
801 should be able to do decent shsot to shot speed on par with regular android phones with the same specs. However it may or (more probably) may not match the shot to shot speeds of the Iphone 5s. The Iphone 5s has a much faster processor, one thats got a huge memory throughput and very fast cores. (If you want to know how this is possible, thats because they dont care about the silicon die space/# of cores as much as the others. More die area + less cores == large but faster cores and more memory bandwidth). I have oversimplified a lot of stuff here (and completely avoided mentioning some) but that should be enough for now. Clear hai ?
I dont intend to mean megapixel is everything - it isnt. But the L1020 sensor has 40 MP which needs to be processed per image and therefore the need for high MP processing per second from the processor.
Lossless zoom, as in its implementation in the L1020, is a function of the number of megapixels in the sensor, and not of sensor size.
Shot to shot time is a combination of various smaller time periods, the chief of which are
1. Time to lock focus
2. Time to apply post processing
3. Time to completely flush the image buffer into the internal/external memory
In most phone cameras 1,2,3 all take comparable amount of time. But since a full shot from the L1020 sensor has 40 megapixels to process and the the processor is not able to handle it generally, Nokia had to hack the ISP pipeline of the processor to make it able to process the massive files. this meant that the processing of the image took a lot longer than 1. The side effect of large sensor (but unrelated to the processor's ability to process it) is the longer time it takes to flush the entire image into the memory, so that the buffer is ready to hold a fresh image (More MB == more time to copy).
So you see that the way to improve the shot to shot duration of the L1020 is not easy since to do that you have to improve both 2 and 3. 2 can be helped by giving it a better processor (thats why you need the 805) and 3 by using faster internal memory. But here is the catch - faster internal memory is also more expensive and in any case at 40MBps speed, you are going to have a hefty premium => even more expensive than it already is. There is a way to get sround this - use more than one buffer to hold the image, and use them alternatively - which is exactly what I think Nokia is using in the L1020 (Now you see why it has 2GB of RAM ?).
Some of the stuff here is speculation, but not a blind rant. Do you now get it why I am skeptical of Nokia's L1020 successor being not in the horizon any time soon ?
1. => Faster processor can help.
2. => Faster processor can help.
3. => Not much can help outside of increased bufferring. Over time as faster memory becomes cheaper, you can see this part improve.
801 should be able to do decent shsot to shot speed on par with regular android phones with the same specs. However it may or (more probably) may not match the shot to shot speeds of the Iphone 5s. The Iphone 5s has a much faster processor, one thats got a huge memory throughput and very fast cores. (If you want to know how this is possible, thats because they dont care about the silicon die space/# of cores as much as the others. More die area + less cores == large but faster cores and more memory bandwidth). I have oversimplified a lot of stuff here (and completely avoided mentioning some) but that should be enough for now. Clear hai ?
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sandynator
Cyborg Agent
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
The alarm doesn't power up the phone in windowsphone 8
Can we get this basic feature in 8.1 update?
The alarm doesn't power up the phone in windowsphone 8
Can we get this basic feature in 8.1 update?
maverick786us
Padawan
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Even if they release a smartphone, which has cameara similar to 1020 with no camera hump. Its hardware specification should be
1) Design of Lumia ICON,
2) Processor SD 801 - 805
3) 3-4 GB RAM
4) 5.2 inch screen AMOLED screen with Gorilla glass 3
5) Dual speakers with clear and loud sound.
6) Music quality as good as iPhone 4s
It will be a dream device.
I dont intend to mean megapixel is everything - it isnt. But the L1020 sensor has 40 MP which needs to be processed per image and therefore the need for high MP processing per second from the processor.
Lossless zoom, as in its implementation in the L1020, is a function of the number of megapixels in the sensor, and not of sensor size.
Shot to shot time is a combination of various smaller time periods, the chief of which are
1. Time to lock focus
2. Time to apply post processing
3. Time to completely flush the image buffer into the internal/external memory
In most phone cameras 1,2,3 all take comparable amount of time. But since a full shot from the L1020 sensor has 40 megapixels to process and the the processor is not able to handle it generally, Nokia had to hack the ISP pipeline of the processor to make it able to process the massive files. this meant that the processing of the image took a lot longer than 1. The side effect of large sensor (but unrelated to the processor's ability to process it) is the longer time it takes to flush the entire image into the memory, so that the buffer is ready to hold a fresh image (More MB == more time to copy).
So you see that the way to improve the shot to shot duration of the L1020 is not easy since to do that you have to improve both 2 and 3. 2 can be helped by giving it a better processor (thats why you need the 805) and 3 by using faster internal memory. But here is the catch - faster internal memory is also more expensive and in any case at 40MBps speed, you are going to have a hefty premium => even more expensive than it already is. There is a way to get sround this - use more than one buffer to hold the image, and use them alternatively - which is exactly what I think Nokia is using in the L1020 (Now you see why it has 2GB of RAM ?).
Some of the stuff here is speculation, but not a blind rant. Do you now get it why I am skeptical of Nokia's L1020 successor being not in the horizon any time soon ?
1. => Faster processor can help.
2. => Faster processor can help.
3. => Not much can help outside of increased bufferring. Over time as faster memory becomes cheaper, you can see this part improve.
801 should be able to do decent shsot to shot speed on par with regular android phones with the same specs. However it may or (more probably) may not match the shot to shot speeds of the Iphone 5s. The Iphone 5s has a much faster processor, one thats got a huge memory throughput and very fast cores. (If you want to know how this is possible, thats because they dont care about the silicon die space/# of cores as much as the others. More die area + less cores == large but faster cores and more memory bandwidth). I have oversimplified a lot of stuff here (and completely avoided mentioning some) but that should be enough for now. Clear hai ?
Even if they release a smartphone, which has cameara similar to 1020 with no camera hump. Its hardware specification should be
1) Design of Lumia ICON,
2) Processor SD 801 - 805
3) 3-4 GB RAM
4) 5.2 inch screen AMOLED screen with Gorilla glass 3
5) Dual speakers with clear and loud sound.
6) Music quality as good as iPhone 4s
It will be a dream device.
rijinpk1
Aspiring Novelist
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
why do you need 4gb ram ?? just to talk-off??
i would prefer sapphire crystal display (harder than diamond) than GG3.
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why do you need 4gb ram ?? just to talk-off??
i would prefer sapphire crystal display (harder than diamond) than GG3.
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WhatsApp bringing
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At last. .. . . .
a facebook effect
Flash
Lost in speed
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
I expect the background wallpapers for WP8.1 too!
Background wallpapers will be pleasant surprise, who update whatsapp without knowing about this feature.a facebook effect
I expect the background wallpapers for WP8.1 too!
maverick786us
Padawan
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
I too wish that they use sapphire display instead of GC3. But that will increase the cost by significant amount
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By talking about sapphire glass, we are going too far, I would love to have grapheme. But its not possible in current generation smartphones.
I too wish that they use sapphire display instead of GC3. But that will increase the cost by significant amount
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By talking about sapphire glass, we are going too far, I would love to have grapheme. But its not possible in current generation smartphones.
rijinpk1
Aspiring Novelist
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
if that was the case, what about ubuntu edge (a 32k phone with sapphire crystal display and exceptional hardware specs)-(it failed because of the lack of funds received.).
if that was the case, what about ubuntu edge (a 32k phone with sapphire crystal display and exceptional hardware specs)-(it failed because of the lack of funds received.).
OP
ssk_the_gr8
Make Way the LORD is Here
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
When will this whatsapp update come out of beta!
Last update was in Jan. Now it's March!
When will this whatsapp update come out of beta!
Last update was in Jan. Now it's March!
tanmaymohan
Geek v1.0
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
Did someone try fifa 14 on WP8 ?
Did someone try fifa 14 on WP8 ?
tanmaymohan
Geek v1.0
Re: The Windows Phone Thread
This update gonna be great
This update gonna be great