Interstellar (2014) Movie Discussion *Spoilers Ahead*
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Skyh3ck
Cyborg Agent
hmmm so now we can say that once people die they can access or gain ability to travel through blackhole/wormhole, hence when they appear as ghost and things moves without (paranormal),it means once people die, they leave their body and take an invisible or micro form (Sukshma sharir) and go to fifth dimension or in singularity..
so ghost do exist and paranormal things happens, but we dont know how to prove it
so all Chamatkars we have heard so far about gods and people flying in sky in mythology must be real, even the teleportation also.
if one can have access to 5th dimension he can do all these things right ??????
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its scary man,
so ghost do exist and paranormal things happens, but we dont know how to prove it
so all Chamatkars we have heard so far about gods and people flying in sky in mythology must be real, even the teleportation also.
if one can have access to 5th dimension he can do all these things right ??????
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its scary man,
icebags
Technomancer
Skyh3ck
Cyborg Agent
and that is also the real science i guess, i was looking for answer for long long time about all this things, and i think this movie answers to some of that questions
why ? is it cause soul cant be set free even after death ?
yes, its about getting too much power after Death, yes Death is not the destination of soul, Moksha is, Death is just a halt in micro (suksha) world
and i am happy soon science will prove after death stuff also, the answer lies in space
Hrishi
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Couldn't resist the thread any longer so Saw the movie yesterday !
Awesome! It's not obfuscated & confusing as many claim...instead its more or less thought challenging and puts thousands of questions to you!! I saw the movie , then read an explanation about it. Seems fair enough to me.
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Just out of curiosity and logic based on the hypothesis used in the movie , can we draw a conclusion that Everything is already defined , and we are just in a loop , which progresses on a dimension called time.?
I feel the plot could also have used time-travel concept , but never mind.....that would be too much adding to the intense linearity already proposed.
Awesome! It's not obfuscated & confusing as many claim...instead its more or less thought challenging and puts thousands of questions to you!! I saw the movie , then read an explanation about it. Seems fair enough to me.
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Just out of curiosity and logic based on the hypothesis used in the movie , can we draw a conclusion that Everything is already defined , and we are just in a loop , which progresses on a dimension called time.?
I feel the plot could also have used time-travel concept , but never mind.....that would be too much adding to the intense linearity already proposed.
Skyh3ck
Cyborg Agent
when i was a child, i used to listen to people about god and death, people always said that god lives up in the deep sky, called "Swarga" and when one dies they go to other world deep in space called "Parlok, Tamlok, Vainkuth" etc.
now its very much scientifically clear, that something is there in space, hence that is why in our ancient civilization they talked about all this things about god living in space etc. now more interested in all those puranas and scriptures, they are hiding some answers
now its very much scientifically clear, that something is there in space, hence that is why in our ancient civilization they talked about all this things about god living in space etc. now more interested in all those puranas and scriptures, they are hiding some answers
Gollum
Collector
sling-shot
Wise Old Owl
Here is another thought (also go through comments)
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Interstellar Sucks Harder Than Its Black Hole
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Nolan's latest sci-fi movie is a mess covered in psuedo-intelligence.
-Chandrakant 'CK' Isi
Interstellar Sucks Harder Than Its Black Hole | TechTree.com
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DISCLAIMER : I have not watched this movie yet.
I do wonder why all these psudo-intellectuals argue about science in a movie which by definition is fictional ?!
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Interstellar Sucks Harder Than Its Black Hole
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Nolan's latest sci-fi movie is a mess covered in psuedo-intelligence.
-Chandrakant 'CK' Isi
Interstellar Sucks Harder Than Its Black Hole | TechTree.com
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DISCLAIMER : I have not watched this movie yet.
I do wonder why all these psudo-intellectuals argue about science in a movie which by definition is fictional ?!
^hmm ok
but that article has a bunch of mistakes too, some in science, and some in understanding what was shown in the movie
too bored to list all that now.
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If you want something more recent try the books by Fritjof Capra or Choa Kok Sui. The Tao of Physics outlines the parallels between ancient mysticism and modern science.
but that article has a bunch of mistakes too, some in science, and some in understanding what was shown in the movie
too bored to list all that now.
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If you want something more recent try the books by Fritjof Capra or Choa Kok Sui. The Tao of Physics outlines the parallels between ancient mysticism and modern science.
tkin
Back to school!!
Re: Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions
International markets, specially markets like China, Korea, UK, Interstellar rocked all out.
Of course it did, also half of American people do not believe in evolution.Frickin Big Hero 6 beat Interstellar at US box office . Now I feel the pain of DC guys when MCU movies beat them
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Still , Everything that can happen Will happen .
International markets, specially markets like China, Korea, UK, Interstellar rocked all out.
tkin
Back to school!!
Interstellar: 9/10
Before I write this review, I want to make one thing clear. I am a fan of Mr. Nolan. Not a nolanite as some would say but I do like his work. I also hated TDKR. He is not beyond criticism.
I went the second day, apparently Calcutta has a huge enough Nolan fan base that even premium tickets were sold out.
As the movie started the first thing that I noticed is the haunting pipe organ coming to life. I told myself that the music would be good, not the thrashing of M.O.S. And what more to expect from a space opera, it instantly reminded me of Mass Effect, far fetched? Yes, but I hoped and wasn't disappointed.
The movie started slowly, really slowly, there I was expecting to blast off into space at hyperspeed but bound to earth looking at the not so exciting lives of the characters. Little did I know that these tidbits would play a major role later.
Then came the visuals, with the ever so beautiful pipe organ. The movie peaked up speed. Then the theories of relativity started to bear its ugly fangs. I went with a lady friend who had zero idea about physics. But the gigantic waves and emotional scenes kept her hooked. The scenes peeked my interest as I was comparing them mentally with what I knew about the science. A lot fit into place, a lot tried to squeeze in. But nothing seemed impossible(ftl drives in start wars?).
The last part shook me up a bit, but it wasn't impossible. I was acquainted with M theory, and that theory allows higher dimensions, the representation was pure fantasy, but then again I didn't buy a ticket to watch a Science documentary.
Overall I loved the movie, the music, the acting, the scale of the artifacts. I watched it three times, then I read the book(below). Will go again at least once more to understand the science a bit more.
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A lot of you had asked some questions regarding the science. Please read this book: Amazon.com: The Science of Interstellar (9780393351378): Kip Thorne, Christopher Nolan: Books
It explains the science beautifully.
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When the Endurance passed very close to the Blackhole, coupled with its massive speed, time slowed down severely. Both Brand and Cooper passed 50+ years as compared to earth.
A. Brand: Cooper fell into the Blackhole, stopping time for him. Brand continued to Edmund planet. When Brand came out of the gravity field 50+ years or even more(actually 50+ passed when they slingshotted out of the Blackhole's critical orbit, residual gravity field will add some more to it as well) had passed in earth. Also note that at this time the Endurance is moving at massive speeds, guess around c/2 where c is lightspeed in vacuum. That speed is created by the effect of the slingshot. Now speed affects time just like gravity does. So we get further slowing till she reaches Edmund planet. So total ~80yrs had passed on earth.
B. Cooper: He falls into the blackhole, as he does time slows for him further till he crosses the event horizon. Note that Brand and Cooper are now aging similarly till Cooper comes so close to the blackhole that time almost stops for him. Now brand is aging faster. But she is in cryosleep and as a result she did not age fast and turn into a hag(ending would have sucked bad). Cooper falls into the tesseract. Then the rest is another big discussion.
C. Murph: Time flows normally for her. She gets the data when she is around 35yrs old, from the future. By the time she had solved the equation and launched humanity towards saturn Brand had come out of the timeslip zone and cryosleep and landed on Edmund planet. Cooper is back to normal timezone and near Saturn.
The O'Neill Cylinder must have been much, much larger, this looked like a small curved neighborhood, not even a station.
The surface is small, but inside the wall the space is huge, they can park spacecrafts as well. Enough for the already dwindling population of earth, and multiple stations as well.
Love as a 5th dimensional artefact - lulzk
Cooper used love to predict that someday Murph will pick up that watch, only way to communicate data successfully. He never used it to navigate the tesseract. He used the arm boosters for that.
Pan dimensional beings/ evolved humans interacting with our space and our time and all they can do is drop a few books?
The laws of nature does not allow to go back in time, you can send signals but cannot go back. Powerful gravitational waves would have destroyed the planet, remember what it did to Cooper's ranger in earth?
What did Tars see within the black hole because he got the equations to send it back, something totally different from what Cooper saw.
Data from Outfalling singularity, TARS didn't only see but analyzed the data. Must have had some special sensors in him.
I believe TARS did not send back equations, but data. Data to solve equations. Almost every equation in Physics depend on constants and variables. Finding them is critical. Data sent by TARS can determine those constants/variables, thereby eliminating incorrect solutions. Lets say you have equation x+y=5. This equation has infinite number of solutions. If you know y then this has only one solution. For constants I can name a few like Planck's Constant etc.
Donno what kind of wormholes they were showing, but the types that allow you to actually travel through should theoretically be possible through time as well, and would not have all the exotic special fx things in a tunnel, would be more like a portal or a doorway.
Yes, a wormhole can allow you to travel across time as well, specially if one of its end is near a strong gravitational field. But such an wormhole is likely to collapse: Chronology protection conjecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The depiction of wormhole is correct. Space is 3 dimensional, if you are going to thread through it, you have to thread all three dimensions. All theory though.
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When the ship was close to MIller's planet, the gravitational warping of space could have scattered the signals so it didn't make its way back.
The infinite fall happens only at horizon, the light redshifts continuously till its no longer detectable. But it does not happen even at the critical orbit.
Before I write this review, I want to make one thing clear. I am a fan of Mr. Nolan. Not a nolanite as some would say but I do like his work. I also hated TDKR. He is not beyond criticism.
I went the second day, apparently Calcutta has a huge enough Nolan fan base that even premium tickets were sold out.
As the movie started the first thing that I noticed is the haunting pipe organ coming to life. I told myself that the music would be good, not the thrashing of M.O.S. And what more to expect from a space opera, it instantly reminded me of Mass Effect, far fetched? Yes, but I hoped and wasn't disappointed.
The movie started slowly, really slowly, there I was expecting to blast off into space at hyperspeed but bound to earth looking at the not so exciting lives of the characters. Little did I know that these tidbits would play a major role later.
Then came the visuals, with the ever so beautiful pipe organ. The movie peaked up speed. Then the theories of relativity started to bear its ugly fangs. I went with a lady friend who had zero idea about physics. But the gigantic waves and emotional scenes kept her hooked. The scenes peeked my interest as I was comparing them mentally with what I knew about the science. A lot fit into place, a lot tried to squeeze in. But nothing seemed impossible(ftl drives in start wars?).
The last part shook me up a bit, but it wasn't impossible. I was acquainted with M theory, and that theory allows higher dimensions, the representation was pure fantasy, but then again I didn't buy a ticket to watch a Science documentary.
Overall I loved the movie, the music, the acting, the scale of the artifacts. I watched it three times, then I read the book(below). Will go again at least once more to understand the science a bit more.
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That guy is as uneducated as I had ever seen giving a review. He copied some stuff from the internet, but he didn't read the damn science.
A lot of you had asked some questions regarding the science. Please read this book: Amazon.com: The Science of Interstellar (9780393351378): Kip Thorne, Christopher Nolan: Books
It explains the science beautifully.
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Unreal times should stick to political satires. It high time they bite the bullet and die a painful death.
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How come Brand did not age? Since she did not go into the black hole, she should have aged a lot more compared to Cooper:
When the Endurance passed very close to the Blackhole, coupled with its massive speed, time slowed down severely. Both Brand and Cooper passed 50+ years as compared to earth.
A. Brand: Cooper fell into the Blackhole, stopping time for him. Brand continued to Edmund planet. When Brand came out of the gravity field 50+ years or even more(actually 50+ passed when they slingshotted out of the Blackhole's critical orbit, residual gravity field will add some more to it as well) had passed in earth. Also note that at this time the Endurance is moving at massive speeds, guess around c/2 where c is lightspeed in vacuum. That speed is created by the effect of the slingshot. Now speed affects time just like gravity does. So we get further slowing till she reaches Edmund planet. So total ~80yrs had passed on earth.
B. Cooper: He falls into the blackhole, as he does time slows for him further till he crosses the event horizon. Note that Brand and Cooper are now aging similarly till Cooper comes so close to the blackhole that time almost stops for him. Now brand is aging faster. But she is in cryosleep and as a result she did not age fast and turn into a hag(ending would have sucked bad). Cooper falls into the tesseract. Then the rest is another big discussion.
C. Murph: Time flows normally for her. She gets the data when she is around 35yrs old, from the future. By the time she had solved the equation and launched humanity towards saturn Brand had come out of the timeslip zone and cryosleep and landed on Edmund planet. Cooper is back to normal timezone and near Saturn.
The O'Neill Cylinder must have been much, much larger, this looked like a small curved neighborhood, not even a station.
The surface is small, but inside the wall the space is huge, they can park spacecrafts as well. Enough for the already dwindling population of earth, and multiple stations as well.
Love as a 5th dimensional artefact - lulzk
Cooper used love to predict that someday Murph will pick up that watch, only way to communicate data successfully. He never used it to navigate the tesseract. He used the arm boosters for that.
Pan dimensional beings/ evolved humans interacting with our space and our time and all they can do is drop a few books?
The laws of nature does not allow to go back in time, you can send signals but cannot go back. Powerful gravitational waves would have destroyed the planet, remember what it did to Cooper's ranger in earth?
What did Tars see within the black hole because he got the equations to send it back, something totally different from what Cooper saw.
Data from Outfalling singularity, TARS didn't only see but analyzed the data. Must have had some special sensors in him.
I believe TARS did not send back equations, but data. Data to solve equations. Almost every equation in Physics depend on constants and variables. Finding them is critical. Data sent by TARS can determine those constants/variables, thereby eliminating incorrect solutions. Lets say you have equation x+y=5. This equation has infinite number of solutions. If you know y then this has only one solution. For constants I can name a few like Planck's Constant etc.
Donno what kind of wormholes they were showing, but the types that allow you to actually travel through should theoretically be possible through time as well, and would not have all the exotic special fx things in a tunnel, would be more like a portal or a doorway.
Yes, a wormhole can allow you to travel across time as well, specially if one of its end is near a strong gravitational field. But such an wormhole is likely to collapse: Chronology protection conjecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The depiction of wormhole is correct. Space is 3 dimensional, if you are going to thread through it, you have to thread all three dimensions. All theory though.
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The beings cannot send Cooper back in time. They can send him at the exact moment he fell into the Blackhole. You cannot go back in time, visualize it? Yes, but cannot go back physically.
When the ship was close to MIller's planet, the gravitational warping of space could have scattered the signals so it didn't make its way back.
The infinite fall happens only at horizon, the light redshifts continuously till its no longer detectable. But it does not happen even at the critical orbit.
Gollum
Collector
That's is why they did not show brand and cooper meeting in the end of the movie.
Gollum
Collector
Spoilers ahead is in the title of this thread. If you haven't watched the movie and ignored the warning then you should blame yourself.
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This thread was created for the "sole purpose to discuss" the movie. Do you want "Every" post to be put in "spoiler" since almost every post have spoilers.
And boy, lot of reading ahead of past few posts when I reach home today!!
Gollum
Collector
This thread was created for the "sole purpose to discuss" the movie. Do you want "Every" post to be put in "spoiler" since almost every post have spoilers.
And boy, lot of reading ahead of past few posts when I reach home today!!
really? tldr anyone? anyone?