roshan1236a
The rated R superstar.
I think u are getting jealous of th iphone
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krazzy
Techtree Reviewer
Aayush, Nokia has three phones with 8gb internal memory, N91 8gb, N95 8gb and N81 8gb, out of which N91 8gb came long before iPhone did. And the upcoming N96 has built-in 16 gb memory AND a built-in microSD card slot which can accept cards upto 32 gb (as and when they become available) without slowing down. Similarly Sony Ericsson also has W960i with 8gb built-in flash memory. Also most new phones can accept cards upto 8gb without slowing down.
MetalheadGautham
AFK
Someone google for the price of iPhone in Belgium and the reason behind that price. Then you will know lots of things. 
kumarmohit
Technomancer
Hey arya, by no means am I saying that iPhone is a bad product. I am saying that it is not meant for Indians, so spare me your anecdotes! Unless of course you are an Apple sales incharge of India!
aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
... and perhaps even of people who have money enough to afford it. At least that's what his constant, similar posts about filthy rich people wasting money on iPhones has taught me. If you have so much of a problem with rich people buying expensive stuff, maybe you should consider moving to the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.
(I know what I'm saying is offensive. It's also intentional. Why drag the financial and social status of people into a discussion about a gadget? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Don't go around declaring that whoever does buy it is a filthy rich and stupid enough to not know where to spend his money. If those filthy rich people didn't know how to make sensible purchases, they wouldn't have been filthy rich in the first place.)
Oh, I seriously doubt that. I've seen many people buy expensive Nokia phones that choke when you insert a 4GB memory card. I have a lot of first hand experience in that area.
As for upcoming phones, well, for all we know, the next iPhone may have 128GB of inbuilt memory. I'm not saying it will (I know it won't), but let's keep future products out of the discussion.
And in any case, how do you know it will work with a 32GB card without slowing down? All you've seen is the spec sheet (of a product yet to be released, no less). Plus, this phone you're talking about is going to be 18mm thick. I'd rather have a svelte 12mm phone that does not accept memory sticks than a brick that does. Even 12mm is a tad too thick, IMHO.
As for your list of phones that have 8GB of built-in memory, as you can yourself see, it's basically around five phones from a list of thousands. That was my point. The iPhone is already at the top of the list with 8GB and 16GB of in-built storage. The last thing that counts as a negative against it is its storage capacity.
Nor am I assuming or insinuating that you are.
Sure, I agree with you. For one thing, Indians cannot live without the ability to forward messages and send files over Bluetooth. I know that the iPhone isn't ideally suited for the typical Indian.
What I was disagreeing with is that list you gave and for the reasons I already so clearly mentioned. And the fact that you didn't actually refute any of my explanations and just went off on a tangent about how it's not suited for Indians and I'm a salesperson (isn't this old already?) basically just proves that I was right.
Just accept it and move on.
(For those of you keeping score, yeah, I'm kinda enjoying these flame war thingies once again. My Mac is dormant right now and my college is off, so when I sit in front of a computer, I don't have much else to do.
)chandru.in
In the zone
I really wanted to stay out of this except for my post about the appstore concept of taxing application developers.
But come on how is it that suddenly if Apple does not implement something properly (bluetooth in this case), Indians' habits are being blamed? Products are made for users, users need not bend themselves to adapt to products.
kumarmohit
Technomancer
To be very frank dude I did not even read your post! Man the sheer size intimadated me! Seriously dude you have that much dedication, it is your choice. Being an iPod Classic user also makes me an Apple user but I doubt my ability be so dedicated to any company be it Apple, MS, Google or non company like Mozilla or Linux. Despite the fact that I use their products regularly, I would not raise a finger to defend them!
The fact is that I am not in any mood to start a catfight and as for the sales person thing, it was just put there to make the environment light. If you took it it otherwise, well, let us ignore it as a piece of miscommunication.
The fact is that I am not in any mood to start a catfight and as for the sales person thing, it was just put there to make the environment light. If you took it it otherwise, well, let us ignore it as a piece of miscommunication.
aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
Trust me, if that list was posted by desiibond or gx_saurav or napster007, etc., I wouldn't have bothered correcting them, accustomed as I am to their antics. However, you (along with a few other people) have always been on the right side of the graph in my book, so I was surprised by the post and felt compelled to issue a correction. No harm, no foul.
FWIW though, I think the tradition of forwarding SMS messages and emails is a horrible, horrible one. I'm actually quite glad that the iPhone now gives me a very valid excuse to opt out of it. When any of my friends (generally of the female variety, though even some guys are suckers for forwarded messages) ask me why I don't forward them messages anymore, I have the handy and genuine excuse, "What am I to do, my phone doesn't support it!"
What is the deal with you guys, trying to put words into my mouth? I never said that there was anything wrong with Indians wanting the SMS forwarding or Bluetooth features. I just acknowledged that those are the features Indians typically look for and the iPhone lacks them and might therefore not be ideally suited for us. Where did you detect any trace of the blame being ladled on Indians?
FWIW though, I think the tradition of forwarding SMS messages and emails is a horrible, horrible one. I'm actually quite glad that the iPhone now gives me a very valid excuse to opt out of it. When any of my friends (generally of the female variety, though even some guys are suckers for forwarded messages) ask me why I don't forward them messages anymore, I have the handy and genuine excuse, "What am I to do, my phone doesn't support it!"
chandru.in
In the zone
You said,
But I still find lacking full bluetooth (read at many places, I do not and will never own an iPhone) is plain ridiculous. Bluetooth is an almost ubiquitous short rage wireless networking technology. Lacking something so basic is funny at best.
which pretty much sounded like blaming. If you "really" did not mean it to be even a slight blame against Indians, then I'm ready to take back my words.
But I still find lacking full bluetooth (read at many places, I do not and will never own an iPhone) is plain ridiculous. Bluetooth is an almost ubiquitous short rage wireless networking technology. Lacking something so basic is funny at best.
Pat
Beyond Smart
You said,
But I still find lacking full bluetooth (read at many places, I do not and will never own an iPhone) is plain ridiculous. Bluetooth is an almost ubiquitous short rage wireless networking technology. Lacking something so basic is funny at best.
To each, his own! In my 4 years with smartphones, I dont remember using bluetooth to transfer files more than 3-4 times! So I am ok with it
chandru.in
In the zone
well yes one can very much agree with the argument presented in this post but the fact that it is after all the iphone - a gadget acclaimed by all, be it techo saavy or confused laymen [in other words u'll be the center of attraction!] - is reason enough to make the purchase, well for me at least
Pat
Beyond Smart
Even photos taken in your mobile's camera??
Yea..I always transfer them to my pc first! Infact I dont remember ever sending a pic taken from my phones cam via bluetooth to someone!
aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
Yes, I "really" did not intend for that to be a blame against Indians, though I can see how you might have thought it was.
Same here, actually. But it's a handy feature to have and definitely should be there on a phone of the iPhone's calibre (caliber?).To each, his own! In my 4 years with smartphones, I dont remember using bluetooth to transfer files more than 3-4 times! So I am ok with it
napster007
Padawan
i don still understand the bluetooth thing...i mean if they did remove it then for what reason. I mean many phones now so not hava the Irda feature but it has reasons like slow speeds range and better options.
but i see no reason y apple should opt out bluetooth.
but i see no reason y apple should opt out bluetooth.
tarey_g
Hanging, since 2004..
I will surely update you with that. He is no apple fanboy so i am sure he will feel the pain when he suffers the flaws.
gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
Why does bluetooth in Nokia N82 provides - A2DP, File transfer, Object Push, Modem, HID, Serial Port, Handsfree.
What does bluetooth in iPhone Supports - Handsfree
Apple was so busy making a good UI, they forgot to add features in iPhone.
Or maybe Macboys want WiFi everywhere with Apple stuff. if it's not there then rest of the world is poor, jealous blah blah...
Arya, there is something called efficiency, iPhone isn't. Even my K750i is more efficient
What does bluetooth in iPhone Supports - Handsfree
Apple was so busy making a good UI, they forgot to add features in iPhone.
Or maybe Macboys want WiFi everywhere with Apple stuff. if it's not there then rest of the world is poor, jealous blah blah...
Arya, there is something called efficiency, iPhone isn't. Even my K750i is more efficient
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