Wikipedia battle to go to court for a selfie ownership

[Zangetsu]

Wikipedia is currently embroiled in a unique legal battle with British Photographer David Slater

Source: Who owns a selfie taken by a monkey? Wikipedia battle to go to court - Tech2

Smile please!!!
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[Desmond]

WTF did I just read.

Technically, the monkey cannot own the picture. The monkey does not even understand the concept of money, let alone the concept of owning things. But since the camera that took the picture was owned by the cameraman, the pic should technically be owned by the cameraman. It should not be public domain until the cameraman puts it willingly to the public domain.

 

[RCuber]

WTF did I just read.

Technically, the monkey cannot own the picture. The monkey does not even understand the concept of money, let alone the concept of owning things. But since the camera that took the picture was owned by the cameraman, the pic should technically be owned by the cameraman. It should not be public domain until the cameraman puts it willingly to the public domain.

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[snap]

WTF did I just read.

Technically, the monkey cannot own the picture. The monkey does not even understand the concept of money, let alone the concept of owning things. But since the camera that took the picture was owned by the cameraman, the pic should technically be owned by the cameraman. It should not be public domain until the cameraman puts it willingly to the public domain.

yea i read that non-humans cannot own copyrights so it is in public domain

 

[paroh]

Wikipedia is currently embroiled in a unique legal battle with British Photographer David Slater

Source: Who owns a selfie taken by a monkey? Wikipedia battle to go to court - Tech2

Smile please!!!
*stech4.firstpost.com/tech2images/640x359/proportional/jpeg/2014/08/Monkey_NEW-624x351.jpg

This is the first time i see a really very unique picture of a handsome monkey ............................. actually which camera this monkey use to take his snap Chinese or japanese as he can became the brand ambassador for that camera company & i also appreciate the skill of this monkey.
Actually the photographer should appreciate the monkey and leave the battle with the Wikipedia .

 

[Desmond]

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Dude, it is just trained to do that. Something like insert money to get something. But it does not understand how money has value.

 

[RCuber]

Dude, it is just trained to do that. Something like insert money to get something. But it does not understand how money has value.

I read some where that monkeys pay for mating.

 

[Vyom]

I think Monkey should have a testimony in the court. Monkey should have a say if he wants to be the owner of the selfie. The monkey should plead for his rights and demand a bunch of bananas as royalty.

 

[Desmond]

I read some where that monkeys pay for mating.

What? Where?

 

[snap]

^^ yea i think it was on some cracked.com article or something they pay in bananas it seems

 

[Desmond]

^^ yea i think it was on some cracked.com article or something they pay in bananas it seems

Oh wait. I think its that article on porn or something. Don't remember the exact name.

 

[skeletor]

has got to be the best selfie ever.

 

[anirbandd]

Well, +1 to the photographer from me.

 

[Anorion]

it belongs to the photographer
the monkey did not buy the equipment
this is terribly unfair to the photographer

What? Where?

^^ yea i think it was on some cracked.com article or something they pay in bananas it seems

6 Things You Won't Believe Animals Do Just Like Us | Cracked.com

 

[rijinpk1]

it belongs to the photographer
the monkey did not buy the equipment
this is terribly unfair to the photographer

selfie

Spoiler

a photograph that one has taken of oneself, typically one taken with a smartphone or webcam

 

[anirbandd]

So you mean to say, you take my cam/mobile and take a selfie so you will have the rights to that image?? Even though you used equipment i bought? Even when you didnt rent them out? Even when you didnt take my consent??

And the monkey didnt even know what shitstorm it was arousing...

 

[Anorion]

yep. I own the image. The person who clicks, owns the photographs. Professionals rarely use photos clicked by someone else, and when they do, they give clear attribution to the shot.

but, if I am a monkey, things get a little difficult. It might come under Orphan works - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

 

[anirbandd]

So.

There are multiple imagea of tigers or lions which were taken by camera traps. The photo was triggered by the tiger or lion or by any other animal for that matter.

Whom do the photos belong to??

 

[Anorion]

the forest department, the stock photo agency, or whoever the trap was set up for

If I borrow your cam and take a photo with my other friend, and the "trigger" is the smile detection, and ask you to send it to me, the photo belongs to me first, the person who smiled next (because he triggered the camera), and you last, if at all, even though you own the equipment.

it becomes tricky when any other animal is a human. Those photographers who know and care about copyright, do share credit or attribute if there is human involvement in exactly this scenario, where the photographer does not trigger the shot himself (say trap is triggered by a human in a vehicle).
so if it is published, and it is a respectable publication, the guy who triggered the trap gets credit in the byline along with the photographer.

 

[anirbandd]

Getting mentioned is one thing and making some money out of it whole different thing. The photographer has mentioned that he makes a living out of this. So whereas I'd agree that the monkey gets mentioned in the caption, its highly unethical that Wikipedia has used his roziroti without his permission.

At the end of the day it was the photographer who set up his equipment so that the monkey could take a selfie. And ii highly doubt it was meant to be a selfie. IMO it was an accidental shot. Butit gravitated into this mess.