Widescreen Dillema

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topgear

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I want buy a LCD TFT monitor. But I am so much confused by hearing and
seeing about 17 inch normal TFT & 17 Widescren TFT, 19 inch normal TFT & 19 Widescren TFT monitors. 17 inch normal tft supports 1280*1024 resolution
and 19 inch normal tft supports same 1280*1024 resolution. Will not be text seen tiny on 17 inch TFT? For 19 inch tfts I think text will be seen a bit larger on that.
Guys get me out of this dillema

I have a Nvidia Geforce Fx 5200 GFX card on my board. Model is
Gigabyte GV-N52128DS. According to the manual this GFX card doesn't supports 1440*900 resolution ie that resolution isn't listed in the supported resolution list of the manual. Now I wanted know If I buy a widescreen TFT
will it work perfectly with my GFX card I mean if you guys have really seen a
widescreen monitor which resolution is 1440*900 working working flawlessly on a 5200 AGP GFX card then please inform in here.
 

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^ Oh no. he can get a custom resolution with his graphic card using powerstrip.
I can get that resolution even with a riva tnt2, but my CRT doesn't do more than 1152x768@60hz\32bit. Dunno, i may be mistaken if this doesn't apply to LCDs but IMHO
monitor resolution should be your priority, esp. since graphic cards are more liable to be upgraded,
 

kaustav_geek

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^ Oh no. he can get a custom resolution with his graphic card using powerstrip.
I can get that resolution even with a riva tnt2, but my CRT doesn't do more than 1152x768@60hz\32bit. Dunno, i may be mistaken if this doesn't apply to LCDs but IMHO
monitor resolution should be your priority, esp. since graphic cards are more liable to be upgraded,

But, even if you can, I don't think the refresh rates will be bearable. LCDs have an issue with resolution and some of them don't support a resolution lower than their native resolutions . I suggest topgear to try out that LCD, if possible, with your card and see for yourself. It'll be the best thing.
 

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The Transcendental
^agreed.
if the monitor can do 1440x900 @ atleast 72 hz, it will be bearable. Surely 5200 geforce fx can do that. If it can't, it is just a bottleneck. You shouldnt buy a lower res monitor bcoz of your graphic card !!!!
1440x900 is a non native resolution for older graphic cards when widescreen were not as popular.
All new drivers by NVIDIA (5.xx) allow you to make a customized profile for your monitor via the ntuner and desktop manager and you can overrride default 4:3 resolutions and refresh rates. To get the rexolution you want, you'll have 2 hit and try. I would strongly recommend you to try out the lcd b4 buying too to checkout dead pixels, blacks, contrast etc.,
 
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My card supports a maximum resolution of 2048*1536 @85 Hz according to the manual. But 1440*900 isn't listed on their

Product page:
*www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=1240

Manual:
*asia.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/vga_manual_gv-n52128ds_e.pdf
 

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The Transcendental
Don't worry. it will do 1440x900 fine.
Try rivatuner or powerstrip or the default way as below:
Right click desktop > properties > settings > Click advanced > click the tab with the name of your graphic card (you should be using drivers from NVIDIA and not the default windows ones to get this tab, i am assuming you are using windows) > click refresh rate overrides > make your own custom resolution say 1440x900 60 Hz.
Apply the settings. check the resolution availability in your desktop settings. Steadily try different refresh rate first in blocks of 5, then 1 to get the maximum bang out of your card. For this to work, your monitor should support the resolution. Else, it will throw a sync error/ blank screen. Note down the last resolution. If Esc button does not get you out of the error screen, reboot in vga mode, after pressing F8 for safe mode options and set the highest refresh rate which did not show any error.
Since you graphic card can do 85 hz even at 2048x1536, you can safely use it at any resolution below the corresponding digits eg anything<2048 x anything<1536 @ 85 Hz. Phew. Thats enough.

Note. this should work to the best of my knowledge. Don't blame me if it doesn't :p
To err on the safe side, ask some nearby computerwallah to install the lcd at your home. Try this in his presence. If it works, problem solved, else ask him to take the lcd back. Make sure you check for dead pixels on the lcd too. They dont come under warranty.
best of luck for your purchase. :))
 
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ranjan2001

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U dont need powerstrip or rivatuner.
all nvidia (cards) drivers support custom resolution (if not update ur driver) & they detect the monitor resolution automatically & only then u will see 1440x900 listed.

For lcd u don't need higher refresh rate than 60 as it does not flicker.
 

kaustav_geek

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Your Card supports a max resolution of 1024*768 ... So, I guess , a widescreen TFT won't work for you..

My card supports a maximum resolution of 2048*1536 @85 Hz according to the manual. But 1440*900 isn't listed on their

oops... Pardon me. In such a case, there shouldn't be any problem... You can always create a custom resolution and refresh rate.

However, I think that as the screen size plummets, the effective maximum resolution dips.... Will have to check it though..
 

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ranjan2001 said:
U dont need powerstrip or rivatuner.
all nvidia (cards) drivers support custom resolution (if not update ur driver) & they detect the monitor resolution automatically & only then u will see 1440x900 listed.

For lcd u don't need higher refresh rate than 60 as it does not flicker.

^yup
I just outlined the procedure if somehow his resolution is not detected, as with older detonator drivers.
 
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Thank U guys for your helps.I have the latest Nvidia drivers & I will not blame anybody For anything:).

Do any of you guys have real experience with that card & with the resolution.

Also guys answer to this question:
I want buy a LCD TFT monitor. But I am so much confused by hearing and
seeing about 17 inch normal TFT & 17 Widescren TFT, 19 inch normal TFT & 19 Widescren TFT monitors. 17 inch normal tft supports 1280*1024 resolution
and 19 inch normal tft supports same 1280*1024 resolution. Will not be text seen tiny on 17 inch TFT? For 19 inch tfts I think text will be seen a bit larger on that.
Guys get me out of this dillema

Also if possible post some screen shot of 17 ich & 19 Inch LCDs
@1280*1024 resolution. With some text in the Notepad & icons on the desktop. So i can understand & see what is the difference between 19 & 17 inch lcd @ 1280*1024 resolution

----------Guys check out these (Sorry for off the topic link):
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56368
 
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assasin

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^^^ a 17" TFT @ 1280*1024 is perfectly readable.buy if u hav the cash go in for a 19" widescreen,u wont regret it later.
 

ranjan2001

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topgear said:
Do any of you guys have real experience with that card & with the resolution.
*www.nvidia.com/object/custom_resolutions.html

I posted this link earlier too when I was having wide screen deliema & thats the 1st card I tested with viewsonic 19 inch wide screen on my old comp. I have no directed experience but used that for a day & then decided to buy a higher card xfx 7600GT
 
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assasin said:
^^^ a 17" TFT @ 1280*1024 is perfectly readable.buy if u hav the cash go in for a 19" widescreen,u wont regret it later.

If I want to go for a 19inch normal resolution tft ie 1280*1024, will that be OK? I mean can I see text & graphics perfectly and text & graphics will not be
seen so big.

@ranjan2001
when I was having wide screen deliema & thats the 1st card I tested with viewsonic 19 inch wide screen on my old comp.

What Was Your First Card? I mean name and the chipset or GPU name of that
card
 
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assasin

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^^^ if u wanna buy a 19" then its better to go for widescreen cuz u'll be getting a bigger display area.personally i liked the res of 17" as compared to 19" cuz both r same but only display area is bigger.
 
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To Eliminate the issue of widescreen supported graphics chips- look at here:
*ap.viewsonic.com/in/kbase/article.php?id=8

But
will text be seen perfectly readable on a 19 inch widescreen tft (1440*900) res with windows default 96 dpi.

will text be seen perfectly readable on a 17 inch tft (1280*1024) res with windows default 96 dpi.
 
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ranjan2001

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Yes if u still have some issue with the fonts then u can change the font size or the resolution of the fonts.I did so as mine is bigger wide screen running at 1680x1050
 
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