Vista SP2 and Windows 7 more Secure than Mac Leopard or Linux

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hellknight

BSD init pwns System V
another thing that matters in Linux is the output of :-
tail -f /var/log/messages command

I was doing ssh session with my friend over the internet and I could see the kernel message which told me that he attempted a wrong root password.. beat that... this is the best security feature on any OS..
 

IronManForever

IronMan; Ready to Roll...
Oh... I have learnt enough from OS wars. So unless people are saying something totally wrong, and not just a matter of difference in opinions, I dont join in.
But then, who am I? No one!

Enjoy homies.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
you do not how sudo works, it doesn't give as u think every user the privilege to access system commands. There is a file called sudoers which controls the access and whom the access to be given. Also there will be a log file which gets updated whenever sudo is invoked.
oh..well if you want to protect the user from sneaking system areas protection is still available in the form ACL, RBAC, etc..
Now imagine iff 100 users are working on that system to run a program, owner/admin has to reach each of them and share his/her password..does that sounds any good?

1) Which one is easier? setting user account as "standard user" for 100 users or setting ACLs, Sudo, RBACs for each and every user?
2) dude, every single os on earth logs every single error/warning message.
3) yeah. I don't know anything about sudoers. I used to work on 25000 line long sudoers file and I know the headache of maintaining proper sudo. One user gets sudo access and he will be able to modify sudoers file and put whatever he wants for him or for other users or he can just wipe off everything from the file resulting in other users being unable to sudo, which is not the case with windows. If you want to modify system file, you do need admin password.
4) You may think that you know a lot about linux and you may think that you know a lot about windows. but seriously, you do need to learn how these two works.

Corporates aren't crazy to implement windows for large scale data centers and workstations. With the right amount of tweaking, windows is lot lot lot secure. There are more than 30k workstations in my client company and the number of linux workstations is less than 1%. And even with 99% of windows workstations, I haven't seen any virus attack in 5 years.

Not just that, I do see what happens when a user is given sudo access to his/her workstation and every user will be the owner with standard user account set for his/her windows workstation. These windows workstations run for months and years without any crashes. But that is not the case with linux hosts. users having sudo access do all kind of junk work on that. They try to install a tool or do some config changes, which of course is still headache in linux and it breaks the OS.

It is a well known fact that the only place for linux is in those big heavy boxes in data centers.

PS: if linux is so much secure and if linux is so so so easy to use, why is it's market share still less than 5%?
 

ionicsachin

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I ve already got bored of OS fights in many forums....final impression i cud get was "My favourite is the best"....thats wat is happening here....
For me I use Windows Vista mostly and Kubuntu.....i enjoy both of them and never compare them....
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I ve already got bored of OS fights in many forums....final impression i cud get was "My favourite is the best" for everyone....thats wat is happening here....
For me I use Windows Vista mostly and Kubuntu.....i enjoy both of them and never compare them....
 
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axxo

99.9% Idle
I will summarize before what it looks like thread gonna be locked out very soon.
I told it would be easier for users to run certain tasks with administrative privilege without admin password. Sudo is just a tool to do this kinda manipulation but every piece of software has its advantages and disadvantages, the cons can be overcome only by proper administration.
Anyway my statement has nothing to do with this thread discussion. Live in peace.8)
 
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