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premsharma

premsharma

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which one is better:

Viewsonic 2130 wm 19" wide TFT with 5 milisecond & DVI input at Rs 15000

or

Samsung 940 BW 19" wide TFT with 4 milisecond at Rs 14200 [not sure of DVI input].

I am based at Agra and if I have buy viewsonic, I have to buy from Mumbai & it will come by courier [will it be safe through courier?] and I dont think it has any service center at Agra. Other one is [samsung] is available here locally nad also has service center.

Anyway, existence of service center do not intrest me much as I am defence officer and keep moving on postings. I will be moving out to Silligudi side in Apr 2007.

Can someone help me firm up my buying decision by virtue of their experince on these monitors.
 
Tech Geek

Tech Geek

Wise Old Owl
second one is better
better get the monitor from the place you live
in case it gets spoilt it can be repaired or exchanged from whereever you bought
 
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premsharma

premsharma

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Thank you very much sam9s. Yor reply negates my fears. I could see in you signature, that you have this model and sooner or later you will advise. But you said somehwere that it is not out of the box and needs lot of configuration. I think it should be DVI input nad not output. Your advise has helped me firm up my decision.

2maro, itself I will buy. It is quoted here at Agra at Rs 14200, though it may be cheaper at Rs 13800 at Delhi.
 
shantanu

shantanu

Technomancer
SAMsung gives dots or flickers after some times REMEMBER THAT DOTS ARE NOT ONLY CREATED BY RASH USAGE THEY ARE also CREATED IF THE SCREEN QUALITY IS BAD AND FLICKERS ARE ALSO CAUSED BY INTERNAL MECHANISM ERRORanD somE DISCOLORATION CASES ALsO I HAD so if you didnt had problem then its not necessary that all samsungs are good and if i am having problem also not means that all are bad buT BADS ARE MORE THEN GOODS in these cases
 
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premsharma

premsharma

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sam9s said:
You can follow this link for a comprihensive discuession on 940BW and you will have a fair idea about the product.

*www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1067655&page=2
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How about dead pixels in your TFT. The discussion in the above thread is ok and helpful for samsung fans but at the same time it has increased my worries. people here are talking about changing there TFTs if they find dead pixels. Who will change in India? Thread also reveals that the response time quoted of 4ms is GTG [grey to grey], which is not real. The real should be BWB [black white black. Infact no company is declaring true response time. How to know, what is the true response time of TFT you rae going to buy. Thinking that you bought 4ms TFT, actually you end up buying 8ms one.

Recently they were struggling to reduce the response time below 8ms and now suddenly you find flurry of monitors claiming to be even 2ms. I don't thisk this they have invented overnight but only found a way out deliberately to trick and quote lower response time. From, where ever you see, it is finally cheating to customers.

As backlight bleeding, all LCD's do it to some degree. The current trend on newer LCD's is a bit of bleeding at the extreme upper/lower edges. Corners seem fairly clean for the most part. The Samsung is decent.

Thank you, thread was helpful to know namy more intricacies of a TFT. It is really not easy to decide. The more deep I go into, the more confused i will be about these TFTs. Better, go like a layman & buy and resign to fate.

Thank you all ... for precious advise on TFTs
 
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premsharma

premsharma

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sam9s said:
Ok as far as I know Samsung does offer replacements if substantial amount of dead pixels are found. You wont even find one or two casually. You need to look hard enoughif there are any. However if dead pixels keep on growing, you can ask for a replacement. I made sure before bying that my LCD has none and I advice the same.
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How did you made sure that it do not have any dead pixels? I mean I have All In One - TFT Tools software, which includes a tool to check if any dead pixel. Who will allow me to do this? My vendor here has I think only one piece that too box packed. He even don't know, what is response time, leave alone whether it is true or false.

What is substantial amount of dead pixels, I mean on what numer, I am authorise to ask for replacement. I am not going to find with nacked eyes. I will use dead pixel detector software, all truth comes out. I have been providing the service of detecting dead pixels to people here, so companies are already annoyed with me. Here mostly LG & Acer are what vendors forcing their customers to buy. These two have sufficient number of dead pixels. This thing customers are getting checked after they buy and once they started spotting on screens. But they can't get it replaced. I have not tested any Samsung or Viewsonic so far and hence this thread here.

Discussion here with you and other members has been fruitful to understand intricaties of TFT.
 
john_the_ultimate

john_the_ultimate

No pain....No gain
I am also looking for a lcd monitor..............I was also going for 940BW but some suggested that since I work with MAYA & Photoshop I should go with Viewsonic VX2025wm 20.1" as it has P-MVA panel whereas the Samsung has TN panel.
Don't understand much about TN or other panel thingy but after searching came to P-MVA produces better and acurate colors than TN panel. The price for Viewsonic was qouted at 20k.
Still haven't decided but lets see.
 
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premsharma

premsharma

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john_the_ultimate said:
I am also looking for a lcd monitor..............I was also going for 940BW but some suggested that since I work with MAYA & Photoshop I should go with Viewsonic VX2025wm 20.1" as it has P-MVA panel whereas the Samsung has TN panel.
Don't understand much about TN or other panel thingy but after searching came to P-MVA produces better and acurate colors than TN panel. The price for Viewsonic was qouted at 20k.
Still haven't decided but lets see.
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Here is link which sam9s gave me and was useful, though I am yet to decide between Viewsonic & Samsung

*www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1067655&page=2

TN and P-MVA things are coverd here but nothing really on viewsonic. Be aware of the big claims by companies. A third party review can only tell abouts these cliams of DCHP & P-MVA features, whether they are effective or just marketing gimmicks to beat one another.
 
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ranjan2001

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sam9s said:
If you are in to serious Image editing using Photoshop, MAYA or 3D Studio max probably I wont recomend an LCD anyhow. CRTs are still better suited to graphics professionals or those that require exacting color consistency that does not change hue with viewing angle.
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Not many people know that the graphic applicating require calibrated monitors & most CRT which u buy have defult color temperature set at 9300°K & if you need to calibrate these at recommended 6500°K they fail badly, most wont calibrate & show bad results in calibration.

ON LCD the default is 6500°K & dont require much color calibration, u just need to adjust contrast/brightness. A known fact of calibration is more u shift from native white point more problems u will have in color.

Compare any good 10-15K CRT with a modern LCD at its default setting & CRT wont stand in line when compared for results. I just bought today samsung 940BW though will not be able to use it till tomorrow.
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software for testing dead pixel & testing LCD for various other parameters
Dead Pixel Tester
*www.dps.uk.com/freeware_DTP.htm

dead pixel buddy
*www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/downloads.php?id=1

passmark monitor test (trial works for a month)
www.passmark.com
 
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shantanu

shantanu

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If You Want A Debate Then I Am Not Available For This Matter Coz Samsung Is The Worst I Have Ever Seen ... Just This And I Am Out Off This Topic From Now .. Pz Dont Quote Me For This Problem Anymore.. Plz
 
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