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Which is the team you HATE the most

  • Chelsea

  • Manchester United

  • Barcelona

  • Arsenal

  • Real Madrid

  • A.C. Milan

  • Liverpool

  • Manchester City


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Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
^ Bias? If there's any bias, it's against Terry. The English media always looks for excuses to relieve him of the England captaincy.
Bullsh!t.

The only reason he is being applauded for his on-field performance today is because Liverpool FC embarrassed themselves thanks to the manner in which they've been acting since the incident.
How have the club "embarrassed" themshelves? If your family member has been charged in a wrong manner and you're supporting your family member, you are embarassing yourself? What a load of shite.
Anyone who are embarrassing themselves are the idiots who failed to understand the point of the T-shirt and only re-affirming their thickness and with how much ease they are influenced by the joke of the English media.

Dalglish missed no opportunity to talk about the Suarez issue, kept dropping little tid-bits for the press and when the verdict was finally announced, Liverpool FC acted in a thoroughly childish manner, as so brilliantly pointed out by Mediawatch (refer the link I pasted earlier).
The club has to to respond to the racist allegation to Luis. Did you look at the back page of the Mirror? "RACIST" in big big font. An absolute stinker by the idiotic rag, trying to absolutely destroy the reputation of a man based on fvck-all evidence.
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Dropping little tid-bits? The club's manager has to respond against the pathetic witch hunt by the English Wankers.
Now that you yet again mention that idiotic article on an absolute joke of a football website, I have to respond. The article is just a load of pisstake and just for the heck of getting attention and cheap laughs, is digging into the massive statement by the club. The article can be easily ripped off its arse, if I'm bothered. You're only embarrassing yourself by basing your arguments on a pisstake of an article.

As if that was not enough, the PR department of Liverpool FC decided to let their players wear Suarez7 T-shirts. Unfeckingbelievable. What exactly were they trying to show? Solidarity? Trying to prove that Suarez is not racist? If only T-shirts could say so much.
Yes the club is simply trying to point out that Suarez is not a racist. Is that so hard to understand? Really? Really? Or are you being thick on purpose?
Oh no you will ignore the statements made the club, the players and the manager, and make your own imprecise conclusions.

What they actually managed to do was to make the entire country cringe in disgust and disbelief. The issue was never whether 'Suarez is a racist'. It was whether 'Suarez used racist language against Evra'. I won't go into the details but he has been found guilty and punished. The players need to get that into their thick skulls.
Funny you mentioned, "What they actually managed to do was to make the entire country cringe in disgust and disbelief.", that's the exact reaction of the people from Uruguay.
The core issue is far more deeper than racism or racist language. It's the absolute intolerance and lack of understanding of other cultures by the buffoons of FA in a cosmopoliton league.

This is what the PFA chief had a say.
PFA chief Gordon Taylor blasts Liverpool's Luis Suarez defence - ESPN Soccernet
"A lot has been made about different cultures and what is deemed to be racist abuse there," Taylor told the Telegraph. "But the point is, if it isn't wrong to make reference to somebody's skin colour [in another country] in this way, it should be.
"When it comes to banter between players, I think it is pretty clear that to make reference to somebody's nationality, or the colour of their skin, is wrong regardless of where the player has come from in the world.

"I've travelled the world a lot and this defence that it is okay to make reference to the colour of somebody's skin in South America in a jovial manner, well I've not heard that before. In the past we've been told that spitting [at someone] is common in South America and I've not seen that either.
Beggars belief. So the chief of the PFA is trying to play the cards of HIS ignorance and his absolute failure to understand the South American culture? Is that a joke?
WTF is about that spitting crap? How the hell is this wanker a chief?

"Maybe our standards are so high because we have such a multicultural society and such a multicultural game, but that is only right. That does not mean our standards are too politically correct or anything like that."
This is the most pathetic quote I have ever heard. Seriously are they trying to play a moral high-ground over an entire country now? What does he mean to say the Englishmen are more 'civilized' than South Americans? Seriously?

Kl@w said:
In such circumstances, all Chelsea had to do was say and do nothing that would attract the ire of the media. And they managed to do it quite well. If we'd warmed up in JT26 T-shirts, the headlines would have been 100X worse than what Liverpool are being subjected to.
Lol? Hasn't your manager delivered "tid-bits" on the issue? In your case, there is clear cut evidence, in ours there's none. OK that may not clear cut at least I can't make it out, but the entire episode hangs by that "evidence".

And look here
Liverpool shirts supporting Luis Suárez 'shameful', says Paul McGrath | Football | The Guardian

Is this the same Paul McGrath who defended his old boss Ron Atkinson after his "nigger" utterance? Wow. And now that wanker has the audacity to scathingly attack Glen who has far more idea on what he is doing that him someone in his words 'I'd hold my breath in games so they could not smell the drink'

This is going beyond a joke. The English media have absolutely ignored the core issue of context, and intent and painted Suarez as a "racist", with even Evra and FA conceding he isn't. And I am supposed to pretend there's no media wankfest?

This case is winding me up, we have not only the case that the moronic media and the FA has shown an absolute ignorance of context/culture and without considering that and everything, has labelled racist abuse charges on Suarez, when the there can be that the interpretation in his native country is not racist at all and there is an absolutely no racism involved here.
The funny thing is no-one really knows what really happened, apart from Suarez, Evra, FA and the clubs involved. Yet the English media and the fans are making their own interpretations, writing moronic articles, and spreading pure shite.
An average reader would lap it all up, and regardless of the difference in culture, Suarez has been deemed racist, and this is something which is beyond pathetic.

It's even more pathetic to see Indians actually not even trying to understand this difference. Picture this, you as an Indian have no idea that what is acceptable here, that is say the word - gadha is not acceptable in say a hypothetical country called M where it's the worst possible racist abuse. Now you are being held guilty because of that, and now your reputation is of being a racist.
But is the person really guilty though? To add to woes, your family protested this and wore T-shirts and sent public statements that your family member is not a racist, but what happens, people of M deem the entire family racists and call them a disgrace to the society. Their chiefs further sends statements of them society being more multicultured than yours.
I don't know but I don't find all this acceptable, this is exactly what is happening and seriously pathetic to the extreme.
Heck forget about that and anything, someone who names is son "Kalu" in India is automatically a racist I suppose or making racist abuse?

No one knows what happened here. Neither do the Cockneys or Mancs who would love to throw dirt nor do the overly defensive Liverpool fans. But the fact that is happening is that the entire media who know sh!te about the issue are already making their judgements and without understanding the stand of Liverpool Football Club, they are already sprouting shite about the club, the manager, the players and more specifically Luis.

What's worse than racism would be a incorrect assertion of those charges without considering every factor in it. Being deemed guilty by people without proof and only speculation is moronic to the extreme. I have my own experience with that.
 

Kl@w-24

Slideshow Bob
^ Looks like I got under your skin. :D

Doesn't matter though; I know if Terry gets charged all hell will break loose. Then everyone will forget about this episode. :|
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
No not you mate, it's just the way the thing is handled especially by the media. I do apologize for ranting but seriously I am extremely pissed off at all this.
 
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Arsenal_Gunners

Arsenal_Gunners

Human Spambot
Lol
Vote Suarez 2011's best Premiership Player
That ended well...
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Arsenal_Gunners

Arsenal_Gunners

Human Spambot
Rafael van der Vaart injury rules Tottenham star out for Christmas run-in | Mail Online

Spurs' wheels coming off?

Worked with Raul last season ;)


:lol: How true.

A few gooner bloggers were asking to vote for RvP unaware of the fact that a dick measuring competition was going on between the two forums.
Anyway Redcafe has rigged polls before by setting up bots(Miss Albania)
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
To be entirely fair, the Facebook and other social communities of both clubs would have had more influence on the outcome on the poll than two online forums. Aside from scripts/lame repeated voting,etc.
Somehow all polls are rigged, seeing KDE getting less votes for 1000EUR grant than 1000 other organizations was clear indicator. :|
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
loooool

*www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7388884/Your-Premier-pick

Another rigged poll with our number advantage for the Liverpool entry, number plus bot advantage for Manc entry and the deserving winner being an Arse entry.

We have nice numbers though. :D
 
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Arsenal_Gunners

Arsenal_Gunners

Human Spambot
I don't know why are you getting wound up by the rags.No sane person is calling him a racist.He did use racial abuse and rightly got penalized for it,but this doesn't make him a racist.Anyway I don't buy into the difference of culture stuff.Ignorance is no excuse.He should have known better.
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Well there are not many "sane persons" in football to be very honest.....
FA could have handled this a lot better even with a ban. This is a really, really sensitive issue on both sides.
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Think the club has acted spot on apart from the some parts of the official statements like "he has played with black players" and "It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations." on Evra on the official statement which is an incorrect assertion and the last statement on him on the very statement.

Maybe we should have done better there. Perhaps should have had the words "Suarez is Not a racist" on the T-shirt.

In my opinion though we are getting very over the top and misunderstood reactions from all quarters from our reaction.
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
An interesting article on the issue.
Calling a Negro a Negro - Commentary - Jamaica Gleaner - Friday | December 23, 2011

The picture that shows the caring side of John Terry as he poses in Hamleys with a black baby | Mail Online
:lol::lol:
 
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