Suggest a Laptop with Pascal GPU

[abcxyz]

Guys, just to make things clear and avoid confusion. I have been looking at 4 different laptops, for global warranty(GW),purchase date is 24th Nov.

Sager NP8151..............~$1200... It doesn't have Global Warranty(GW)
Asus ROG GL502VM......~$1230... 1 year GW but not released in India
MSI GE62VR.................~$1300... Cant be serviced in India on GW(but parts are available in India)
Gigabyte P55WV6-PC3D.~$1250... 2 years GW + servicable in India.

Regarding Gigabyte laptop - I spoke with Regenersis, Indian Authorized Service Partner for Gigabyte. I told them about the model name and the site where I will be buying in USA(XoticPC). They have checked and told me that it will come with 2 years global warranty and it can be used in Regenersis. They also said that if the laptop part is not available in India, they will ship them from Gigabyte.

I feel that specs of Gigabyte are good compared to Asus & MSI such as 256GB SSD, max RAM, 6 Cell Battery (63.00Wh) and no G-SYNC
In the next 2 days I will try get info on Asus and MSI also.

Please check this Gigabyte (XoticPC) [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION] [MENTION=86068]dashing.sujay[/MENTION] [MENTION=125133]Minion[/MENTION] [MENTION=107549]kamikaz[/MENTION] and share your views.

Thanks for your time

 

[omega44-xt]

My priorities:
1. MSI
2. Asus
3. Gigabyte
4. Sager

Does Asus really provide GW? I'm not sure about it. If it is launched in India, it would be my first choice. (Talk to Asus India reps if there is a plan to launch it in future)

GE62VR is available in India & most laptops get problem after a year or two (if any). So when you get problem it might already be outside warranty (so you have to pay for servicing in any case, i.e. GW or not)

Gigabyte doesn't sell laptops in India, so service is questionable (I mean their expertise to repair laptops, apparently parts won't be an issue)

Sager.... No service centre, nothing... So better to not even consider

 

[Minion]

Guys, just to make things clear and avoid confusion. I have been looking at 4 different laptops, for global warranty(GW),purchase date is 24th Nov.

Sager NP8151..............~$1200... It doesn't have Global Warranty(GW)
Asus ROG GL502VM......~$1230... 1 year GW but not released in India
MSI GE62VR.................~$1300... Cant be serviced in India on GW(but parts are available in India)
Gigabyte P55WV6-PC3D.~$1250... 2 years GW + servicable in India.

Regarding Gigabyte laptop - I spoke with Regenersis, Indian Authorized Service Partner for Gigabyte. I told them about the model name and the site where I will be buying in USA(XoticPC). They have checked and told me that it will come with 2 years global warranty and it can be used in Regenersis. They also said that if the laptop part is not available in India, they will ship them from Gigabyte.

I feel that specs of Gigabyte are good compared to Asus & MSI such as 256GB SSD, max RAM, 6 Cell Battery (63.00Wh) and no G-SYNC
In the next 2 days I will try get info on Asus and MSI also.

Please check this Gigabyte (XoticPC) [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION] [MENTION=86068]dashing.sujay[/MENTION] [MENTION=125133]Minion[/MENTION] [MENTION=107549]kamikaz[/MENTION] and share your views.

Thanks for your time

My suggestion get ASUS.My brothers friend bought a imported laptop from paytm when he contacted ASUS support if it can be serviced by them they say yes they can repair without any issues.

I will stay away from sager because they don't sell laptops here.Same for other mentioned brands.

 

[abcxyz]

My priorities:
1. MSI 2. Asus3. Gigabyte 4. Sager

Does Asus really provide GW? I'm not sure about it. If it is launched in India, it would be my first choice. (Talk to Asus India reps if there is a plan to launch it in future)

GE62VR is available in India & most laptops get problem after a year or two (if any). So when you get problem it might already be outside warranty (so you have to pay for servicing in any case, i.e. GW or not)

Gigabyte doesn't sell laptops in India, so service is questionable (I mean their expertise to repair laptops, apparently parts won't be an issue)

Sager.... No service centre, nothing... So better to not even consider

My suggestion get ASUS.My brothers friend bought a imported laptop from paytm when he contacted ASUS support if it can be serviced by them they say yes they can repair without any issues.

I will stay away from sager because they don't sell laptops here.Same for other mentioned brands.

Guys I spoke with all the 3 reps in India.
Asus, MSI & Gigabyte Authorized Service Partner in India is Regenersis (India) Private Limited

Asus - As per rep

• There is no official info on when GL502VM will be launched in India.
• But it will provide service in India(it has 1 year international warranty)
• Service provided by Regenersis & 2 other companies.

MSI - As per rep

• No service will be provided if bought out of India
• Service provided by Regenersis

Gigabyte

• 2years Global warranty and serviceable in India
• Service provided by Regenersis

So I hope we can trust Regenersis now?

 

[omega44-xt]

Guys I spoke with all the 3 reps in India.
Asus, MSI & Gigabyte Authorized Service Partner in India is Regenersis (India) Private Limited

Asus - As per rep

• There is no official info on when GL502VM will be launched in India.
• But it will provide service in India(it has 1 year international warranty)
• Service provided by Regenersis & 2 other companies.

MSI - As per rep

• No service will be provided if bought out of India
• Service provided by Regenersis

Gigabyte

• 2years Global warranty and serviceable in India
• Service provided by Regenersis

So I hope we can trust Regenersis now?

As GL502VT & GL502VY are available in India & with the assurance that it can be serviced in India, I think Asus can be considered as the best bet.

I didn't observe before but GL502VM/VS are similar to GL502VT/VY. So Asus would be my first choice, folowed by MSI & last would be Gigabyte

 

[abcxyz]

As GL502VT & GL502VY are available in India & with the assurance that it can be serviced in India, I think Asus can be considered as the best bet.

I didn't observe before but GL502VM/VS are similar to GL502VT/VY. So Asus would be my first choice, folowed by MSI & last would be Gigabyte

Ok I will go with Asus.

What are these Gigabyte laptops and why are they less?
GIGABYTE 17.3" P57Xv6-NE2 (8GB 1070)
GIGABYTE 17.3" P57Xv6-NE2 Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 16 GB Memory 128 GB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop - Newegg.co

GIGABYTE 15.6" P55Wv6-NE2
GIGABYTE 15.6" P55Wv6-NE2 Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 16 GB Memory 128 GB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop- "ONLY @ NEWEGG"-Newegg.co
[MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION]
Whats the difference between GIGABYTE P55WV6-PC3D & GIGABYTE P55WV6-NE2?

 

[omega44-xt]

Ok I will go with Asus.

What are these Gigabyte laptops and why are they less?
GIGABYTE 17.3" P57Xv6-NE2 (8GB 1070)
GIGABYTE 17.3" P57Xv6-NE2 Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 16 GB Memory 128 GB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop - Newegg.co

GIGABYTE 15.6" P55Wv6-NE2
GIGABYTE 15.6" P55Wv6-NE2 Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 16 GB Memory 128 GB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop- "ONLY @ NEWEGG"-Newegg.co
[MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION]
Whats the difference between GIGABYTE P55WV6-PC3D & GIGABYTE P55WV6-NE2?

The difference between the two is GPU & screen size

Consider Gigabyte as xiaomi or oneplus of mobile segment. They try to price it competitively so that their product sells. Asus can be considered as LG & Alienware as Samsung (Apple is Apple)... The analogy isn't perfect but I hope you get what I mean

 

[abcxyz]

[MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION] and others, thank you all for you suggestions.
I went with Gigabyte at the end. I spoke with Gigabyte sales manager and he assured me about things regarding warranty in India. At the end the specs to price ratio in Gigabyte was too tempting.

GIGABYTE 3" P57Xv6-NE2 @ ~90K along with free(~8k) Gigabyte Headset + Watchdogs2 title
Laptop specs,

• GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB
• Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz)
• 16x1 GB Memory + 1 TB HDD + 128 GB SSD (M.2 SATA)
• 17.3" Full HD IPS 1920 x 1080
• 6 Cell battery and 6.61 lbs.
• DVD Super Multi (changeable slot to M.2)
• Total capacity: 2 Memory slots @2400 MHz (Max 32 GB)

 

[TheSloth]

This is nearly(?) equal to Desktop counterpart for the price I would say. Great config for the price. Congratulations.
Hope it doesn't happen, but, in case if something happens to your lap, and you decide to claim warranty, then do update about the whole RMA process here. Also, do update in case of upgrading components(if possible in your case). It will be helpful for others.
Happy gaming

 

[omega44-xt]

[MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION] and others, thank you all for you suggestions.
I went with Gigabyte at the end. I spoke with Gigabyte sales manager and he assured me about things regarding warranty in India. At the end the specs to price ratio in Gigabyte was too tempting.

GIGABYTE 3" P57Xv6-NE2 @ ~90K along with free(~8k) Gigabyte Headset + Watchdogs2 title
Laptop specs,

• GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB
• Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz)
• 16x1 GB Memory + 1 TB HDD + 128 GB SSD (M.2 SATA)
• 17.3" Full HD IPS 1920 x 1080
• 6 Cell battery and 6.61 lbs.
• DVD Super Multi (changeable slot to M.2)
• Total capacity: 2 Memory slots @2400 MHz (Max 32 GB)

Congrats

I know GTX 1070 is too tempting to miss out especially considering you would end up spending same/more money on a 1070 desktop in India.

BTW when will you get it. A small review with thermals while gaming would be great

 

[abcxyz]

Congrats

I know GTX 1070 is too tempting to miss out especially considering you would end up spending same/more money on a 1070 desktop in India.

BTW when will you get it. A small review with thermals while gaming would be great

Yeah GTX 1070 it self is freaking 35-37K in India.
I would be getting it in Jan 2017(if everything goes fine on my friend's side). Sure I will update you guys [MENTION=138367]TheSloth[/MENTION] & [MENTION=60562]anupam_pb[/MENTION]

 

[abcxyz]

just got the news from my friend. My laptop which was delivered by FedEx is lost. Apparently fedex dropped my laptop somewhere else. I raised a claim with newegg.com it will take 15 days to review. Mostly I won't get the laptop because it's out of stock.

Delivery system in USA sucks. All my hopes are lost with it.

 

[parashar91]

That's terrible news, I'm really sorry to hear that.
This is one of the reasons I'm never going to order from XoticPC when I have a trusted Clevo reseller in my home city, Kolkata.

I really hope you get a refund.
And as soon as you do, go for Azom. Sure, you pay 30,000 bucks extra, but you get a laptop which is upgradeable at your leisure and something that will last for years, with local support and service.

Another thing I can say from personal experience is, you cant rely on other people. You've got to do almost everything yourself. Sad reality.

 

[abcxyz]

That's terrible news, I'm really sorry to hear that.
This is one of the reasons I'm never going to order from XoticPC when I have a trusted Clevo reseller in my home city, Kolkata.

I really hope you get a refund.
And as soon as you do, go for Azom. Sure, you pay 30,000 bucks extra, but you get a laptop which is upgradeable at your leisure and something that will last for years, with local support and service.

Another thing I can say from personal experience is, you cant rely on other people. You've got to do almost everything yourself. Sad reality.

When and where did I say that I bought from Xotic?

As mentioned I bought from Newegg.

 

[kamikaz]

That's terrible news, I'm really sorry to hear that.
This is one of the reasons I'm never going to order from XoticPC when I have a trusted Clevo reseller in my home city, Kolkata.

I really hope you get a refund.
And as soon as you do, go for Azom. Sure, you pay 30,000 bucks extra, but you get a laptop which is upgradeable at your leisure and something that will last for years, with local support and service.

Another thing I can say from personal experience is, you cant rely on other people. You've got to do almost everything yourself. Sad reality.

this upgradeable feature isnt as easy you make it sound .., for once these cards are really expensive.. and then there is the issue of compatibily with cpu ,laptop design etc..,im talking about future upgrades, current gen model would be easier to fit , but these upgrades are as i said ,quite expensive..
[MENTION=274911]abcxyz[/MENTION]

hope you get your gpu back, try to find out where they delivered , then call that guy and literally beg, coz he is under no obligation to actually return it!, but i cant believe they misdelivered it.. usually such high value package requires a signature and id proof, thats how mine was delivered

 

[parashar91]

this upgradeable feature isnt as easy you make it sound .., for once these cards are really expensive.. and then there is the issue of compatibily with cpu ,laptop design etc..,im talking about future upgrades, current gen model would be easier to fit , but these upgrades are as i said ,quite expensive..

I send it back to them after purchasing the card/cpu of my choice and they slot it in. Future gen GPUs will be compatible as long as the socket design doesn't change.
The price of the GPU for the laptop won't be such an issue, not much difference between the desktop grade Nvidia cards and the laptop grade ones these days (Just 100 Mhz slower clock speed)
In fact, Volta plans to bridge the gap completely.
Azom will only charge for the labour required to slot the components in. I can do it myself if I want, I'll get guided for free.
The only real expense will be the desktop grade- CPU upgrade.
Otherwise, it's like upgrading a PC.

 

[omega44-xt]

just got the news from my friend. My laptop which was delivered by FedEx is lost. Apparently fedex dropped my laptop somewhere else. I raised a claim with newegg.com it will take 15 days to review. Mostly I won't get the laptop because it's out of stock.

Delivery system in USA sucks. All my hopes are lost with it.

That's really frustrating

 

[coolnikk]

I send it back to them after purchasing the card/cpu of my choice and they slot it in. Future gen GPUs will be compatible as long as the socket design doesn't change.
The price of the GPU for the laptop won't be such an issue, not much difference between the desktop grade Nvidia cards and the laptop grade ones these days (Just 100 Mhz slower clock speed)
In fact, Volta plans to bridge the gap completely.
Azom will only charge for the labour required to slot the components in. I can do it myself if I want, I'll get guided for free.
The only real expense will be the desktop grade- CPU upgrade.
Otherwise, it's like upgrading a PC.

Do you even own a clevo, have u been on nbr forums nvidia screwed us totally just look at the threads no more upgradable mxm earlier nvidia used to provide a standard certified design to be used by everyone but they dropped it.Now every company has to make their own gpu design and get it certified and believe me its a pain in the ass.Second cpu is very cheap to upgrade compared to gpu why 980m retails for 900 dollars a new 1070 retails for almost 1000 dollars and cpu upgrade is limited to the socket and mobo generation itself please get ur facts right before praising clevo.

Im in no way against clevo only correcting u pls dont spread wrong info among forum members.

And as far as future gpu upgrade is concerned its a situation of schrodinger's cat.

 

[parashar91]

Im not spreading any wrong information. I had a technical discussion with Azom and check this out:

Greetings Parashar,



Please find our answers inline –



GPU Form Factor – Our Barebones are designed on PGA Socket ( Same used for desktop , servers etc. ). Hence , the GPUs have the same Plug & Play Design as it’s Desktop Counter Part. The GPU Form Factor is different than traditional Desktop Layouts and are called MXM Variants.



With Pascal Launch, Nvidia now uses the same die on both MXM & Desktop Variants. Unlike , previous generation like Maxwell , where the GPU Dies itself were different due to TDP requirements.



From Performance standpoint, there is literally no difference in a desktop and notebook gpu from a real life usage prespective except few changes in core clocks. For example , 1070 Notebook has higher Cuda Cores than 1070 Desktop , but lower clock speeds.



Upgrades & Volta – Even with plug and play design, upgrades of laptop GPUs are very much dependent on PCB Layout. For example , we were able to provide upgrades from 6 Series Geforce to 9 Series within the same Barebone as the PCB layout of the cards remained same. With Pascal launch , our complete Barebone internals changed along with the motherboard , as these cards had different layout and need additional power from the board.



We cannot confirm any upgrade path to Volta yet as no design layouts have been released . We are hoping , it will be compatible as usually we have seen design changes only when they switch fabs , like pascal is the first gpu on 16nm.

Also, I've dropped the idea of going for it anyway. Why the hell would I spend 1.2 lakh on gaming when I can buy a second-hand car for the same? It isn't worth it. Even for the sake of upgradeability, it really isn't worth it. I'll build a desktop.

 

[abcxyz]

this upgradeable feature isnt as easy you make it sound .., for once these cards are really expensive.. and then there is the issue of compatibily with cpu ,laptop design etc..,im talking about future upgrades, current gen model would be easier to fit , but these upgrades are as i said ,quite expensive..
[MENTION=274911]abcxyz[/MENTION]

hope you get your gpu back, try to find out where they delivered , then call that guy and literally beg, coz he is under no obligation to actually return it!, but i cant believe they misdelivered it.. usually such high value package requires a signature and id proof, thats how mine was delivered

Actually after days of talking with Newegg the matter went till Police complaint. Finally we found the laptop in a Lease Apartment Office where Fedex dropped it. Now my friend's friend has picked up the laptop. I hope the laptop is not tampered.