[REQUEST] Configuration for Gaming under Rs.70K

ashu888ashu888

Core i7 (nehalem) Owner
Hello Everyone! Before answering the Questionnaire below, I need a Configuration (Motherboard, Processor, GPU and CPU Cooler) in which my existing components would work perfectly:

1.) Corsair Vengeance 12GB (3x4GB) Triple Channel RAM
2.) MSi GTX 580 Twin Frozr-ii (1.5GB) GPU (if this won't work then I am ready to invest in this as well).
3.) Tagan 1100W PSU (6pin+8pin connector for GPU).


1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans: High-end gaming of all the latest games at approx. 30-40fps with all Basic and Advanced Settings set to High (if not Ultra/Insane).

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Budget is only for Processor+Mobo+GPU(only if my existing GPU wont work on the new mobo)+CPU Cooler and will be around Rs.70K (+/- Rs.10K)

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Not at all.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Currently i was on Win 7 Ultimate Edition (as all games worked perfectly), I wouldn't mind switching to Win10 (provided all my games work), If there are any pros/cons, I will be happy to go for a dual boot OS (Win 7 Ultimate and Win10)


5. How much hard drive space is needed?

Ans: I will use my existing WD 2x1TB HDDs (But i would prefer an SSD just for the Dual boot OS setup) i.e. a 120/128GB SSD which is fast (as this will be my 1st time loading an OS from the SSD).

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: I w
ill re-use my 23" Samsung monitor which has a full HD Resolution (1920 x 1080).

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:
I wont buy: PSU (already have 1100W), Monitor, Keyboard, RAM, Mouse, Cabinet (CM690)

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: within a week's time (1st-2nd week of May, 2016)

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I will do it myself.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I live in Mumbai so Lamington Road will the preferred option (I have also purchased online stuff from Golccha IT before, so, any would do).

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: nothing as such that I have in mind. If i remember, will surely add it.
 
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bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Budget - 77k (Modified)

ProcessorIntel Core i5 650015,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X
3,000
MotherboardGigabyte GA-H170-HD3 DDR38,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 980 4GB DDR543,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD7,500
Total77,000
 
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ashu888ashu888

ashu888ashu888

Core i7 (nehalem) Owner
@ bssunilreddy: The following (MSi GTX 580 GPU, 1100W Tagan PSU, Corsair Vengeance DDR3 12GB RAM) i will be re-using it, so please tell me whether the 6th Generation Core i5 6xxx be compatible?

@ All: I do not need the complete list.
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
@ bssunilreddy: The following (MSi GTX 580 GPU, 1100W Tagan PSU, Corsair Vengeance DDR3 12GB RAM) i will be re-using it, so please tell me whether the 6th Generation Core i5 6xxx be compatible?

@ All: I do not need the complete list.

You can re-use Tagan 1100w PSU only. GTX580 GPU is outdated and Z170 Series motherboards support only DDR4 RAM. Okay.
 

nac

Aspiring Novelist
@ bssunilreddy: The following (MSi GTX 580 GPU, 1100W Tagan PSU, Corsair Vengeance DDR3 12GB RAM) i will be re-using it, so please tell me whether the 6th Generation Core i5 6xxx be compatible?
Yes, i5 6xxx is DDR3 compatible but you have to pick up a different board, not the one mentioned. GTX 580 may handle latest games, but how well? that I don't know. You can very well buy the new processor/mb and try this card. If you get the fps you wanted, stick with it, if not get a new GPU.
Option A - Go with Skylake processor and DDR3 compatible motherboard. If you ever want/need to switch to DDR4 in the future you can keep the proccy and upgrade your mb and memory
Option B - Go with Haswell processor and save some money.
 

yasho2249

Broken In
You can go with a Haswell build. I was able to fit in a 980 bt overclocking would be good with a GPU like this. Since you said "Not at all" I haven't put it.

CPU: i5 4460 @Rs.13073
Cooler: hyper 212 evo @Rs. 2999
Mobo: Asus H97 Rs. 9293
SSD: Sandisk 120gb ssd @Rs. 3280
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 980 4gb @Rs. 43325

Rounds up at around Rs. 72000

I would suggest go for an overclocking build as nt overclocking might lead to Gpu bottlenecks in some CPU intensive games. It will cost you 3-4k more and it's worth it. Bt don't get me wrong....The non k cpus won't be horrible.....you can just squeeze a bit more performance for relatively cheap price.

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bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Yes, i5 6xxx is DDR3 compatible but you have to pick up a different board, not the one mentioned. GTX 580 may handle latest games, but how well? that I don't know. You can very well buy the new processor/mb and try this card. If you get the fps you wanted, stick with it, if not get a new GPU.
Option A - Go with Skylake processor and DDR3 compatible motherboard. If you ever want/need to switch to DDR4 in the future you can keep the proccy and upgrade your mb and memory
Option B - Go with Haswell processor and save some money.

Budget - 77k (Modified) Skylake Non-OC Build

ProcessorIntel Core i5 650015,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardGigabyte GA-H170-HD3 DDR38,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 980 4GB DDR543,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD7,500
Total77,000


Budget - 81k (Modified) Skylake OC Build

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600K
18,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardGigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3
9,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 980 4GB DDR543,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD7,500
Total81,000

Some Z170 & H170 Mobos support DDR3. That too at 1.5v or 1.35v. You can use your present Tagan 1100w PSU and Corsair Vengeance RAM as well. Okay.
 
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ashu888ashu888

ashu888ashu888

Core i7 (nehalem) Owner
Yes, i5 6xxx is DDR3 compatible but you have to pick up a different board, not the one mentioned. GTX 580 may handle latest games, but how well? that I don't know. You can very well buy the new processor/mb and try this card. If you get the fps you wanted, stick with it, if not get a new GPU.
Option A - Go with Skylake processor and DDR3 compatible motherboard. If you ever want/need to switch to DDR4 in the future you can keep the proccy and upgrade your mb and memory
Option B - Go with Haswell processor and save some money.
Hmm... Thank You for the reply, appreciate it and "Now" Sir, you really got me into thinking something which can be both-Money Saver -vs- a Game changer.

Tell me honestly,

A.) Is it better to go for the 6th Gen of Intel Processors (Skylake) i.e. a Complete set of Processor + Motherboard + DDR4 RAM + SSD+ GPU + Cooler + PSU (Only if my existing 1100W Tagan is inCompatible) under 80-90K?

and

B.) Sell off my:
1.) 4x3GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Triple Channel RAM Sticks,
2.) MSi GTX 580 (1.5GB) Twin Frozr ii GPU

C.) I don't see myself spending almost Rs.48k-50k for a GPU (Is there any better option or is this the most suitable for a Skylake build when I get a complete Skylake Pkg of Proc+Mobo+RAM(DDR4)+GPU)?



You can go with a Haswell build. I was able to fit in a 980 bt overclocking would be good with a GPU like this. Since you said "Not at all" I haven't put it.

CPU: i5 4460 @Rs.13073
Cooler: hyper 212 evo @Rs. 2999
Mobo: Asus H97 Rs. 9293
SSD: Sandisk 120gb ssd @Rs. 3280
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 980 4gb @Rs. 43325

Rounds up at around Rs. 72000

I would suggest go for an overclocking build as nt overclocking might lead to Gpu bottlenecks in some CPU intensive games. It will cost you 3-4k more and it's worth it. Bt don't get me wrong....The non k cpus won't be horrible.....you can just squeeze a bit more performance for relatively cheap price.

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Hey Thank You! yasho2249 :) Appreciate all of you for helping me out pick the right things.

But, I guess the 4th Gen of Intel Processors are old and i guess within the next year or so, they will be obsolete and I will again be stuck with half of my components non-working with the then Latest Mobo+Proc, Right?


I Would ask all of you to give me a rough estimate for a "complete" "build-from-scratch-setup" for Skylake Build so that it would also help me to refine my budget and give me a rough idea on the same because, the only system that I have been using is the one as shown in my signature (1st Gen Core i7 920) so you all can imagine I am all "new" To this once again and have lost alot of pace with whats there in the Mkt, So a little patience will be helpful from all of you with a NON-OC Skylake build.

:)


Budget - 77k (Modified) Skylake Non-OC Build

ProcessorIntel Core i5 650015,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardGigabyte GA-H170-HD3 DDR38,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 980 4GB DDR543,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD7,500
Total77,000


Budget - 81k (Modified) Skylake OC Build

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600K18,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardGigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR39,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 980 4GB DDR543,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD7,500
Total81,000

Some Z170 & H170 Mobos support DDR3. That too at 1.5v or 1.35v. You can use your present Tagan 1100w PSU and Corsair Vengeance RAM as well. Okay.


@ bssunilreddy: Thank you! buddy. All the prices seem fine, but the GPU is an Atomic Bomb on my pocket, lol. Is this so huge a cost for a GPU? Any other alternative ?


Once again to @all: Thank you for your well-informed replies guys !!


Cheers n e-peace.
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
A) Its always better to go with the latest build like Skylake for more future proofing.

B) B.) Sell off your present components:
1.) 4x3GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Triple Channel RAM Sticks,
2.) MSI GTX 580 (1.5GB) Twin Frozr II GPU
3.) Tagan 1100W PSU

C) Yes there is an alternative for a better GPU. ie A Complete set of Processor + Motherboard + DDR4 RAM + SSD+ GPU + Cooler + PSU. Just have a look below.

Budget - 88k (Modified) Skylake Non-OC Build

ProcessorIntel Core i7 6700 (3.4Ghz)24,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardAsus H170 Pro Gaming DDR412,000
MemoryG.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB(8GBx2) 2133MhzDDR46,000
Graphics CardZotac GTX 970 4GB DDR5 AMP Omega28,500
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD7,500
PSUSeasonic M12II 620w Evo Edition7,000
Total88,000
 

yasho2249

Broken In
Hmm... Thank You for the reply, appreciate it and "Now" Sir, you really got me into thinking something which can be both-Money Saver -vs- a Game changer.

Tell me honestly,

A.) Is it better to go for the 6th Gen of Intel Processors (Skylake) i.e. a Complete set of Processor + Motherboard + DDR4 RAM + SSD+ GPU + Cooler + PSU (Only if my existing 1100W Tagan is inCompatible) under 80-90K?

and

B.) Sell off my:
1.) 4x3GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Triple Channel RAM Sticks,
2.) MSi GTX 580 (1.5GB) Twin Frozr ii GPU

C.) I don't see myself spending almost Rs.48k-50k for a GPU (Is there any better option or is this the most suitable for a Skylake build when I get a complete Skylake Pkg of Proc+Mobo+RAM(DDR4)+GPU)?




Hey Thank You! yasho2249 :) Appreciate all of you for helping me out pick the right things.

But, I guess the 4th Gen of Intel Processors are old and i guess within the next year or so, they will be obsolete and I will again be stuck with half of my components non-working with the then Latest Mobo+Proc, Right?


I Would ask all of you to give me a rough estimate for a "complete" "build-from-scratch-setup" for Skylake Build so that it would also help me to refine my budget and give me a rough idea on the same because, the only system that I have been using is the one as shown in my signature (1st Gen Core i7 920) so you all can imagine I am all "new" To this once again and have lost alot of pace with whats there in the Mkt, So a little patience will be helpful from all of you with a NON-OC Skylake build.

:)





@ bssunilreddy: Thank you! buddy. All the prices seem fine, but the GPU is an Atomic Bomb on my pocket, lol. Is this so huge a cost for a GPU? Any other alternative ?


Once again to @all: Thank you for your well-informed replies guys !!


Cheers n e-peace.
Don't worry abt the compatibility issue of your psu and GPU they should fit it any Mobo unless it's an ancient psu with different pins. In that case to u can use Adapters. I would suggest for a new Gpu though. Ik its a shot on ur wallet (later abt it)

Abt going for an old generation I would say nt really. I myself would buy the soo called "legendary" i5 2500k happily if a get a good price. Pair that with a good speed ram n you reach in abt -5 fps given bt something like a i5 6600k. You can watch such comparisons on YouTube by channel named digital foundry. N abt "futureproof" well the next gen is supported by the same platform bt u cant say anything further n when u upgrade say like 4 yrs those cpus will be also outdated. I would prefer getting something wich gives me best value for money now n seeing that people still use their 2500k happily I think the cpus will last a long time.

Abt Gpu being so expensive, yes it will be the most expensive part in ur rig. U see the Gpu is a whole setup bt itself. Flip ur Gpu, backside you will find a Motherboard. The GTX *** or GT **** or R9/R7 *** is their architecture( like sandy bridge/skylake/ Haswell). N the vram (video ram) is the ram for that Gpu chip. They also hav clockspeeds like CPU. Soo the Gpu is a full setup n will cost u the most.

These are my thoughts. No arguing the skylake will be the best n some might nt like the 2500k thing too. There has been no significant increase in performance in the Intel architecture after sandy bridge (ie the 2*** series) Soo I really don't hav a problem going till there. The zen architecture frm amd is rumored to give a whopping 40% increase frm it's bulldozer architecture. And with amd's great prices that could become an option in future.
 

yasho2249

Broken In
A.) Is it better to go for the 6th Gen of Intel Processors (Skylake) i.e. a Complete set of Processor + Motherboard + DDR4 RAM + SSD+ GPU + Cooler + PSU (Only if my existing 1100W Tagan is inCompatible)


I Would ask all of you to give me a rough estimate for a "complete" "build-from-scratch-setup" for Skylake Build so that it would also help me to refine my budget and give me a rough idea on the same

Since u said frm scratch am including hdd case n psu(that's abt 10k I guess). You can reuse them n save the money. Some skylake build options. Its the best I can do to get the cheapest prices.

->Non overclockable with 970

i5 6500 for Rs 14499 @GolchhaIT
MSI H170A for Rs 9293 @Mdcomputers
Zotac GTX 970 for Rs 24937 @Mdcomputers
Hyper 212X for Rs 2899 [MENTION=155294]Pri[/MENTION]meabgb
Kingston hyperx fury 16 gb (8*2 gb) DDR4 2133 for Rs 4970 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
WD blue 1tb for Rs 3660 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Sandisk 120gb SSD for Rs 3099 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Antec VSK 4000 for Rs 2750 @Amazon
Seasonic M12II 520W for Rs 4999 @GolchhaIT

Total: Rs 71106

->Overclockable with 970

i5 6600k for Rs 17999 @GolchhaIT
MSI Z170A for Rs 10815 @Mdcomputers
Zotac GTX 970 for Rs 24937 @Mdcomputers
Hyper 212X for Rs 2899 [MENTION=155294]Pri[/MENTION]meabgb
Kingston hyperx fury 16 gb (8*2 gb) DDR4 2133 for Rs 4970 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
WD blue 1tb for Rs 3660 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Sandisk 120gb SSD for Rs 3099 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Antec VSK 4000 for Rs 2750 @Amazon
Seasonic M12II 520W for Rs 4999 @GolchhaIT

Total: Rs 76128

->Non overclockable with GTX 980

i5 6500 for Rs 14499 @GolchhaIT
MSI H170A for Rs 9293 @Mdcomputers
Zotac GTX 980 for Rs 42719 @Mdcomputers
Hyper 212X for Rs 2899 [MENTION=155294]Pri[/MENTION]meabgb
Kingston hyperx fury 16 gb (8*2 gb) DDR4 2133 for Rs 4970 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
WD blue 1tb for Rs 3660 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Sandisk 120gb SSD for Rs 3099 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Antec VSK 4000 for Rs 2750 @Amazon
Seasonic M12II 520W for Rs 4999 @GolchhaIT

Total: Rs 89388

->Overclockable with 980

i5 6600k for Rs 17999 @GolchhaIT
MSI Z170A for Rs 10815 @Mdcomputers
Zotac GTX 980 for Rs 42719 @Mdcomputers
Hyper 212X for Rs 2899 [MENTION=155294]Pri[/MENTION]meabgb
Kingston hyperx fury 16 gb (8*2 gb) DDR4 2133 for Rs 4970 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
WD blue 1tb for Rs 3660 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Sandisk 120gb SSD for Rs 3099 [MENTION=171297]snap[/MENTION]deal
Antec VSK 4000 for Rs 2750 @Amazon
Seasonic M12II 520W for Rs 4999 @GolchhaIT

Total: Rs 93910
 

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Hmm... Thank You for the reply, appreciate it and "Now" Sir, you really got me into thinking something which can be both-Money Saver -vs- a Game changer.

Tell me honestly,

A.) Is it better to go for the 6th Gen of Intel Processors (Skylake) i.e. a Complete set of Processor + Motherboard + DDR4 RAM + SSD+ GPU + Cooler + PSU (Only if my existing 1100W Tagan is inCompatible) under 80-90K?

You can go either with Haswell or Skylake with DDR3 or Skylake with DDR4, nothing is gonna be a game changer. Pretty much all of 'em are equally good for your gaming purpose. With DDR3 you can save few thousands. But,

You seem like you gonna keep this build for another 7+yrs (the one you have is 7+yrs old)
You have good enough budget to go for DDR4 (dumping DDR3 memory). The money you lose or can't save would be insignificant in this 70k+ budget.
I think it's better to go with Skylake with DDR4.

- I feel your Tagan PSU should be good enough for your new build
- I don't see huge performance boost from i7 over i5 for gaming purpose. (i5 6600 or K variant as the difference is just few hundreds)
- If you think 250GB is too much, go for 120GB SSD (after all this is gonna be just for the OS, right?).


i5 6600k18100
Asus H170 PRO GAMING11900
2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4
5400
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB4500
HYPER 212X3000
Asus STRIX GTX 970 4G DDR529000
Total
71900
 

abhinavgshetti

Right off the assembly line
1.you have ddr3 ram and you don't want to overclock so id suggest you go for haswell non k,i5 4690 with higher stock speed and no need for i7 unless you edit videos or such.go for h97 motherboard with pcie 3.0 support with sli support for future proofing
2.for low power sleep states disable c6/c7 and your power supply will work perfectly(i have used a old 300w mercury one initially on my z97 motherboard,even though my mobo has 8 pic cpu and 24 pic mobo i got it working with 4 pin cpu and 20 pin mobo power connector with no problem)
3.skylake only has marginal improvements over haswell, not significant for normal users and gamers(like extended usb 3,m.2 support,etc)
4.also go for 128 gb ssd if you plan on only installing os and other software
5.gtx 970 is perferct for 1080p/1440p gaming. you can always add one more in future if you have pcie lanes left

edit: you can wait for new polaris and pascal gpu if you want. you can keep your 580 for now. im doing the same thing :p and sli support is only there for z97/z170 motherboards so check that if you want to sli in future
 
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ashu888ashu888

ashu888ashu888

Core i7 (nehalem) Owner
Thank you!! All: (yasho, nac, abhinavgshetti, bssunilreddy)

Special thanks to Nac as well as Yasho (for giving the prices from online shops as well)...no offence to others please.

I think i can go for a build which is around Rs.71k-73k...

Let me see the availabitity of the Products now.


Cheers n e-peace....
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Thank you!! All: (yasho, nac, abhinavgshetti, bssunilreddy)

Special thanks to Nac as well as Yasho (for giving the prices from online shops as well)...no offence to others please.

I think i can go for a build which is around Rs.71k-73k...

Let me see the availabitity of the Products now.


Cheers n e-peace....

Budget - 75.2k (Modified) Skylake Non-K Build

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6500 14,800
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardMSI Z170A PC Mate DDR410,800
MemoryCorsair Vengeance LPX 16GB(8GBx2) 2400MhzDDR45,400
Graphics CardZotac GTX 970 4GB DDR525,200
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 120GB SSD4,500
PSUSeasonic M12II 520w Evo Edition6,000
HDDWD Caviar Blue 1TB3,600
CabinetAntec VSK 4000-U31,900
Total75,200

i5 6500 non-k processor can be overclocked by using the BCLK in any Z170 Motherboard. Anybody need's to download the corresponding Bios of any Z170 Motherboard like MSI Z170A PC mate fromUpdated MSI Z170 Non-K Overclocking Guide (new BIOS!) - Overclocking.Guid and flash it and follow the guide and overclock the i5 6500 to 4.5Ghz easily. Custom cooler like CM Hyper 212X is essential and never use stock cooler while overclocking. Okay.
 
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ashu888ashu888

ashu888ashu888

Core i7 (nehalem) Owner
Budget - 75.2k (Modified) Skylake Non-K Build

i5 6500 non-k processor can be overclocked by using the BCLK in any Z170 Motherboard. Anybody need's to download the corresponding Bios of any Z170 Motherboard like MSI Z170A PC mate from Updated MSI Z170 Non-K Overclocking Guide (new BIOS!) - Overclocking.Guid and flash it and follow the guide and overclock the i5 6500 to 4.5Ghz easily. Custom cooler like CM Hyper 212X is essential and never use stock cooler while overclocking. Okay.


^^^ Copy that...Okay! Sir :D

I won't OC it but will surely use the 212X Air Cooler.

Btw, I plan to throw my old cabinet (CoolerMaster CM 690 with Acrylic side panel) and this time will use either:

CoolerMaster HAF XB EVO
-OR-
Corsair Air 540 (Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black price in india Rs.10170. Buy Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black online : Theitdepot.com)
 
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