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Purchasing a new pc please help !!!

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  1. rudra_chowdhury

    rudra_chowdhury New Member

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    Hi Guys,

    I wanna buy a new computer in September, I want to go for something like the following :-

    Componet Model Name and No.
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    Processor : Intel Pentium 4 2.8C HyperThreaded,800 MHz FSB, 1 MB Cache
    Motherboard : Intel D865GBF, 865 chipset, 800MHz FSB , Dual DDR Ram
    Primary Storage : Samsung 160 GB IDE Hard Drive, 7200 rpm 5400
    Secondary Storage : LITEON CD-RW 52X24X52X
    Secondary Storage : LITEON DVD ROM 16X
    Ram : Hynix Zion DDR 400 MHz , 256 MB X 2
    Printer : Canon xnu i255
    Display : Samsung MagicBright 17" Flat Screen
    Graphics Card : GeForce 4 Ti 4400 128 MB / 256 MB
    ATX Cabinet : Microtek 300W SMPS 52(C )
    TV Tuner Card : Pinnacle PCTV Stereo
    Keyboard : Logitech Black Keyboard
    Mouse : Logitech Optical Mouse
    UPS : Microtek
    Floppy Drive : Sony


    I want opinions about purchasing of a 128MB/256 MB standard graphics card at 5-6K and the purchase of the lowest possible 19" monitor , flat or otherwise .

    Also I want to go for a 5.1 speaker set which one I should go for

    I prefer Creative Inspire 5200 .


    Pls help
     
  2. devianthulk

    devianthulk New Member

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    Ur config looks pretty decent. But i suggest. u go in for
    a DVD combo drive or DVD Writer (Liteon --- Rs. 5500/- only).

    I've got a DVD combo.. but i repent not having gone in for
    a DVD writer.

    Anyways, the choice is urs.
     
  3. ujjwal

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    Your config is good, but I am not sure you will easily find that graphics card ... maybe you should get a radeon 9600? It will be more future proof, as it is DirectX 9 compliant. Talking about future proofing, it makes sense to go for an Athlon64 based processor, especially as they have gone so cheap ...
     
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    Your current config. is fine if you prefer intel only....

    My suggestions:
    If you play games or in other words if ur a game freak....
    1. Go for AMD 64-bit processor and couple it with upcoming nforce4 motherboard, the reason being that this motherboard supports new PCI express technology for more efficient graphics and gaming. Though you'll have to wait for this motherboard to arrive in the market but pci express cards are already in the market so i guess the launch of nforce4 will be soon. Even if you dont plan to go for pci express card rt. now, considering that its expensive, but still it will be a future proof decision, and the prices will fall in the near future anyway.... :)
    2. Its always better to go for two separate drives, so ur current choices for secondary storage is fine....
    3. Your current choice of monitor is a good one since its flat and sleek but if you want to consider 19" monitor then a very worthy contender is samsung dynaflat 955DF 19" color monitor....
    4. Geforce 4 ti is somewhat ok for a time being, but you would definately want to purchase a pci express graphics card in the future and i can assure you that it will be soon, if you love games ;)
    5. Go for SMPS with more wattage atleast 400W, 19" monitor, cooling solutions are always power hungry....
    6. For 5.1 speakers creative 5200 is fine if you are on a tight budget, but if you are an audiophile and give preference to quality then go for altec lansing 5100 5.1 speakers @Rs. 10,000 approx.

    Even if you dont play games i would still suggest you to go for an AMD 64-bit proccy and nforce3 mobo, and the onboard graphics card is decent enough for day to day needs....

    Enjoy :)
     
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    and dont take the 17"flat,take the normal one,u might even improvise on ur card.......
     
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    rudra_chowdhury New Member

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    Thanks a lot for ur great advices guys .

    This machine is specially meant for gaming so the graphics card is the most important component , I presume .

    But should I go for Intel 915 chipset motherboard , it supports the PCI express cards and have Intel media accelarator pro 900 onboard graphics
    with Intel hi definition audio .

    The problem is that the PCI express cards are out of reach for me economically at this very moment . so whether to go for a Ati Card or a GE force FX card (maybe the 5700 Paladyne FX card of 256 MB memory and 475 MHz clock speed ) is the main question at this moment .

    Also I want to ask the gaming champions what would be better going for a 17" Flat monitor or a ordinary ( non-flat) 19" monitor ( The flat 19" good ones cost abt 15-16K , so that is out of budget )

    Thanks suave_guy for ur comments ,

    can u tell me the appx. price of samsung dynaflat 955DF 19" color monitor ?

    And the appx price of the AMD 64 with the best affordable corresponding motherboard . What would be the appx. combo price ?


    The combo price for the P4 2.8 GHz and the Intel 865 GBF is Rs 13200 .


    And anything about the new Ram standards or Should I stick with 512 MB DDR 400 MHz .
     
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    @ 5-6k u have very few options,
    Radeon 9600Se 5.5k
    Ennyah Geforce 5600 (pure) 5.5k
    Ennyah Geforce 5700 (pure) 7k
    Radeon 9600 7.5k
    Fx5200's 3.3k to 4.5k

    So its now upto u which card u shd go with ...............

    PCI-E is still a nascent technology and isnt that useful right now. Even the PCI-E version of cards like 5700 cost arnd 10-11k right now whereas the AGP counterparts cost arnd 7k.

    If ur a enthu gamer then i think u shud allot more money to gfx card and get a 9800pro for 14k.
     
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    go for the A64 with a K8V and a radeon 9600,thats the best option,the A64 2800+ is the cheapest and is damn good.it costs only 7.2k.
     
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    the graphics card i would definetly recommend you to go for the 9600 normal 128mb, It is awesome and it handled far cry with everything set on very high pretty well. I baught it last month and it is the best damn card money can buy for 7.5k
    Intel Sucks go for AMD 64
     
  10. spykids_666

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    1) Change the processor (2.8 is old it only has 475 pins, go for some 775 pin processor, theres one from the intel, i forgot the name, search it in the intel site else every thing is great)

    2) Change the Mother Board( Go for the intel 915 series. supporst the 775 pins cpu, (this will make the cpu faster)

    3) If you are going for the Pinnacle Tv tunner "BEWARE". dont install windows XP SP2 (the tunner does not work in the xp sp2, i have it my self, just install windows xp sp1, it works great in it).

    4) Else every thing is just Great !!!!EENJOY!!!
     
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    spykids .. relax man
    the 915 chipset still has nascent technology and adds to the cost for not much of a performance boost !!
    that takes care of 1) and 2) ... as for 3 ... there should be updated drivers available on the pinnacle site
    if not .. wait for it and monitor it
     
  12. spykids_666

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    1) the 915 G series chipset supports the PCI express Cards (if i am not wrong). which is said to be much faster than the normal PCI slots.

    2) if the 915 G series chipset has the PIV 3.0ghz HT (775 pins) Processor, and 865 has a PIV 3.0 Ghz HT (475 pins). the performance from the 915 will be much better.

    3) i my self have the 865 GBF.

    4) See rudra_chowdhury's configuration. i dont think 3K-4K will effect him. on top of that I dont know abt ur place but in Gujarat 865 are getting Extinct.
     
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    Dude 915's etc is ok.........but PCI-E has nuthing better to offer with the current games. PCI-E wont be exploited to the fullest currently. Plus the cost difference between PCI-E and AGP cards is more. For eg: a Fx5700 costs 7k and the same one cost arnd 11-12k for the PCI-E version. A wiser decision would be going for AMD 64 based solution.

    And btw its LGA Land Grid Array and hence there are no pins !! this isnt PGA or Pin grid Array .....;)
     
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    listen to my man blade here
    going for such a system will cost him 3k more. .. but going for cards that support it will cost him an overall of 7k plus

    i used to think the same way as u dude new technologies are very tempting
    but when ur not an ambani or tata and birla .. u have to think sensibly ... and sensible = amd now
     
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    Thanks a lot guys for ur excellent suggestions , a bit of net reasearch and a confirmation from DIGIT august issue ( the article on page 82 , "New Kids on the block" ) and I have finally decided for Intel 915 chipset and Intel P4 LGA 775 Processor )

    The questiona about the motherboard leads to two results :-

    1.

    Intel® Desktop Board D915GAG Features


    Form Factor microATX (9.60 inches by 9.60 inches [243.84 mm by 243.84 mm])
    Processor Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 Extreme Edition processor in an LGA775 socket with a 800 MHz system bus
    Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 processor in an LGA775 socket with a 533/800 MHz system bus

    Memory Four DDR SDRAM DIMM sockets
    Support for DDR 400 MHz and DDR 333 MHz DIMMs
    Support for up to 4 GB of system memory

    Chipset Intel® 915G Chipset
    I/O Control LPC Bus I/O controller
    Audio Intel® High Definition Audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC860 audio codec.
    Video Intel® GMA900 onboard graphics subsystem
    LAN Support 10/100 Mbits/sec LAN subsystem using the Intel® 82562EZ Platform LAN Connect (PLC) device
    Peripheral Interfaces Eight USB 2.0 ports
    One serial port
    One parallel port
    Four Serial ATA interfaces
    One Parallel ATA IDE interface with UDMA 33, ATA-66/100 support
    One diskette drive interface
    PS/2* keyboard and mouse ports

    Expansion Capabilities Two PCI Conventional* bus connectors
    One PCI Express* x1 bus add-in card connector
    One PCI Express x16 bus add-in card connector


    2.




    Intel® Desktop Board D915GAV can help revolutionize your digital life with support for Intel® Pentium 4 processors, Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900, PCI Express* graphics, DDR400/333 memory, and Intel® High Definition Audio.




    Intel® Desktop Board D915GAV Features


    Form Factor ATX (12.00 inches by 9.60 inches [304.80 mm by 243.84 mm])
    Processor Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 Extreme Edition processor in an LGA775 socket with a 800 MHz system bus
    Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 processor in an LGA775 socket with a 533/800 MHz system bus

    Memory Four DDR SDRAM DIMM sockets
    Support for DDR 400 MHz and DDR 333 MHz DIMMs
    Support for up to 4 GB of system memory

    Chipset Intel® 915G Chipset
    I/O Control LPC Bus I/O controller
    Audio Intel® High Definition Audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC860 audio codec.
    Video Intel® GMA900 onboard graphics subsystem
    LAN Support 10/100 Mbits/sec LAN subsystem using the Intel® 82562EZ Platform LAN Connect (PLC) device
    Peripheral Interfaces Eight USB 2.0 ports
    One serial port
    One parallel port
    Four Serial ATA interfaces
    One Parallel ATA IDE interface with UDMA 33, ATA-66/100 support
    One diskette drive interface
    PS/2* keyboard and mouse ports

    Expansion Capabilities Four PCI Conventional* bus connectors
    Two PCI Express* x1 bus add-in card connector
    One PCI Express x16 bus add-in card connector
     
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    The New Modified Configuration is as follows :-
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    Componet Model Name and No.
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    Processor : Intel Pentium 4 LGA 775 3.0GHz HT,800 MHz FSB, 1 MB Cache
    [​IMG]
    Motherboard : Intel D915GAV, 915 chipset, 800MHz FSB , Dual DDR Ram , Intel Media Accelarator Pro 900, PCI Extreme Graphics , Intel High Definition Audio
    [​IMG]
    Primary Storage : Samsung 160 GB Hard Drive, 7200 rpm SATA HDD
    Secondary Storage : LG CD-RW 52X24X52X
    Secondary Storage : SONY DVD ROM 16X
    Ram : Hynix Zion DDR 400 MHz , 256 MB X 2
    Printer : Canon xnu i255
    Display : Samsung 997 DF 19" Flat Screen
    [​IMG]
    ATX Cabinet : Microtek 300W SMPS 52(C )
    TV Tuner Card : Pinnacle PCTV Stereo
    Keyboard : Logitech Black Keyboard
    Mouse : Logitech Optical Mouse
    UPS : Microtek
    Floppy Drive : Sony
    Speakres : Creative Inspire 4.1 4400
    And About the Graphics ,


    I have decided to go for the time being with the onboard Intel 900 Media Accelarator Pro . According the DIGIT article it's much better than the Intel Extreme 2 on the D865GBF

    Now , I would wait till December and would finally go for a PCI-Express

    My Current Option is :-

    GeForce PCX

    NVIDIA unveils the GeForce PCX family of graphics processing units (GPUs): the industry’s first top-to-bottom family of PCI Express GPUs.

    The GeForce PCX GPUs will deliver better graphics and more vibrant digital media to PC consumers through the additional bandwidth and features offered by Intel’s new PCI Express bus architecture. Since the GPU has the largest bandwidth demand of all the PC subsystems, NVIDIA has been a key contributor to the joint definition, development, and deployment of PCI Express solutions.


    And My Chioce of Card is :-

    NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750 GPUs: designed for high-performance gaming with NVIDIA’s full suite of cinematic effects and an unmatched feature set.
     
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    Yea dude the current config. is fine.... :)

    But u need to take care of one thing.... intel is providing you the high defination audio and also the latest games like doom3 and upcoming half life-2 will be demanding 5.1 audio setup atleast....and also the dvds you are going to watch will sound more better and natural in 5.1 setup....
    So if somehow you can squeeze in 5.1 speakers in the current config. instead of 4.1 setup, then it would be absolutely fine! :)

    Enjoy :)
     
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    yeah .. dont opt for 4.1 speakers right now
    wait and buy 5.1 .. seriously .. u wont be able to upgrade speakers too often unless u got a lot of dough ;)
    one more thing. . with this config ... 300w is crap
    infact 300 is almost dead anyways
    350 is the new standard
    with this config do some justice and get a min. 400w psu
     
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    go for an intel 915 express mobo with gma onboard
     
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    pm me your use & budget
     
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