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whitestar_999

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Custom LCs and mostly NZXT or Corsair 240 RADS probably because these are what I am seeing mostly in reddit subreddits like pcmasterrace etc I mean showoff sections.

Builders with high-end configs mostly buy third-party coolers.

I always thought such people are in minority & use stock coolers in some other build of theirs instead of selling them off on sites like ebay.
 
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chimera201

chimera201

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chimera201

chimera201

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Usually Intel had lower prices for i5 compared to R5, lets see how its priced in India. Even for same price, R5 3600 is the better choice though.

There are 2 things against R5 3600:
> Lacks integrated graphics. Highly important for Indians as rate of GPU failure is high.
> Wraith stealth is not enough for R5 3600 whereas the stock Intel cooler for i5 is enough.
 
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chimera201

chimera201

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Wait, I'm gonna need whatever you had before posting this :rofl:
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I own R5 3600 :p
 
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chimera201

chimera201

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These are on NH-U12S. Intel stock heat sinks are like or even worse than wraith stealth.

That's the point. The Intel i5 CPU itself just runs cooler by about 15°C so with a cooler that is only slightly worse than Wraith Stealth it can run cool enough whereas the 3600 can't since it has really aggressive auto overclocking.

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whitestar_999

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^^How did they install intel coolers on ryzen 3600, I don't think intel sells amd compatible mounting kits for their coolers.
 
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chimera201

chimera201

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^^How did they install intel coolers on ryzen 3600, I don't think intel sells amd compatible mounting kits for their coolers.

But recently shortly after testing the Wraith Spire, we received a tip to compare Intel and AMD's box coolers using the new Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 motherboard. This particular board uses LGA1156 mounting holes, meaning it has native support for Intel coolers. Asrock did this to save space on the board and we weren’t going to miss the opportunity to stick the crappy Intel box cooler on the Ryzen 5 3600. So we bought a Phantom Gaming-ITX and got to testing.

Now, this motherboard only supports Intel coolers, so to test the Wraith range on the same Ryzen 5 3600 CPU we used the Asrock Steel Legend. Since we’re using the exact same CPU with the same settings, this should still provide accurate results with the only potential issue being the board layout. The Mini-ITX board is cramped and there’s no open space around the cooler, this will negatively impact CPU cooling performance. Therefore to replicate this on the Steel Legend which is a more open motherboard, we encompassed the Wraith coolers with a strip of cardboard, modified to replicate the air-flow obstacles of the ITX board.
 

whitestar_999

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^^Quite ingenious. Still one major thing against intel 10th gen though, going by the past trend I doubt availability of any good mobo priced ~7-8k compared to B450 options like asrock,asus & gigabyte.
 

ico

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AMD should improve upon Wraith Stealth in the next gen.

i5-10400 is a good part. But be warned about the locked memory frequency of 2666 MHz on non-Z series boards.

 
There are 2 things against R5 3600:
> Lacks integrated graphics. Highly important for Indians as rate of GPU failure is high.
> Wraith stealth is not enough for R5 3600 whereas the stock Intel cooler for i5 is enough.
An i5 10400 will not compete with R5 3600 as it will be priced higher. 10400F will likely be priced the same as R5 3600, both lack iGPU.

Wraith + R5 3600 might run a bit hotter than i5 10400F + its cooler, but R5 3600 performs better in CPU intensive tasks. Also, I won't consider 65C as bad for 21C room. Gaming doesn't load the CPU as much as those stress tests, so it will be cooler and the difference will be smaller.

Considering RAM freq is locked at 2666MHz for non Z490 mobos, it deals a serious blow to i5 10400F. So I won't be recommending it over R5 3600. AS mentioned earlier, new B series mobos will be expensive initially. By the time prices fall down, we might have Ryzen 4000.
 
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chimera201

chimera201

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Also, I won't consider 65C as bad for 21C room.

That is with a Noctua cooler...
And 3600 easily reaches 95C on atleast one core even when gaming with the stock cooler when the ambient is above 35C. You just need to play an optimized game at above 60fps like FH4.
 
That is with a Noctua cooler...
And 3600 easily reaches 95C on atleast one core even when gaming with the stock cooler when the ambient is above 35C. You just need to play an optimized game at above 60fps like FH4.
Then why do people say that the cooler is ok & better than what Intel provides? People don't say that the cooler is good & even say that a cheap CM Hyper 212 does a better job, but say that it's good enough. Even in Reddit, a lot of people build PC with that box cooler.
 
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chimera201

chimera201

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Then why do people say that the cooler is ok & better than what Intel provides? People don't say that the cooler is good & even say that a cheap CM Hyper 212 does a better job, but say that it's good enough. Even in Reddit, a lot of people build PC with that box cooler.

Because most of them are talking about Wraith Prism which is a good cooler not Wraith Stealth. Enthusiasts on forums always talk about the high end stuff and AMD is better in that segment. But most Indians don't buy that expensive stuff.
 
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