pci express version's relation with performance

digitaltab

In the zone
hello everyone,
i want to ask what is the relation of the version of pci express x16 slot with the performance of graphics card, and game play graphics?

how is pci express 3.0 better than pci express 2.0 and 1.0 in context of gaming performance of card?

what is the "version" to do with the performance in gaming?
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Version just tells you how much max bandwidth will be available. Higher the PCI-express version number, more the bandwidth available.

But not much difference in performance. Hardly 1 or 2~ fps which can be counted as a 'real world error'. The current generation of cards aren't even utilizing the full bandwidth of PCI-express 1.1 X16 slot.

My HD 6950 is a PCI-express 2.1 card. But it is hardly fast enough to utilize 1.1 X16 at the fullest. I'm going to see negligible performance difference whether it is plugged in 1.1 X16 slot or 2.0/2.1 X8 slot.
 

sam1

Journeyman
u can check out this link too -
Differences between PCI-Ex16 1.0 and 2.0? - Tech Support Forum
 
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digitaltab

digitaltab

In the zone
thankyou very much tenida, ico , sam1.

so i am concluding that either it is pcie x16 v1.0 or 2.0 or 3.0, there is no difference (negligible) in gameplay performance or no difference in card performance.. right?

friends, tell me one more thing, is version has something to do with power consumption of card?
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
As of now there isn't. But PCI-express 1.1 might get saturated soon for graphic cards. 1.1 is only found in old motherboards anyways. New motherboards are coming with 2.0 and above. Soon we'll see 3.0 around March when AMD and Intel release their new processors.

No, PCI-express has nothing to do with the power consumption of the card.

Even if there is a difference, it would be merely 4-5 watts. Now 4-5 watts would translate into 0.005 * 24 * 365 * 1.5 = Rs. 65.7 if you run the card non-stop for one year. ;)
 

AcceleratorX

Youngling
PCIe 3.0 (and for that matter, even 2.0) was mainly introduced to provide adequate bandwidth for dual graphics card setups. The performance difference between PCIe 1.x and 2.0 depends on a variety of factors such as your GPU, chipset, the specific application/game (for example, in some games, PCIe 2.0 may make a bigger difference on an NVIDIA card than a Radeon, and vice versa), etc.

Just for information, PCIe 2.0, taking into account bandwidth overheads, delivers about 4GT/s in and out. The fastest PCIe 2.0 implementation known to date is the nForce 780 series which runs part of the bus at 4.5 GT/s (of course, practical performance difference is NIL because the additional nForce 200 chip adds latency too. However, multi card performance does show a marginal improvement on these nForce boards).

There is some evidence that the current generation cards do saturate the PCIe 1.1 bus. A good read on the matter can be found here:

The impact of PCI Express on GPUs (page 1: Introduction) - BeHardware

It shows that on a GTX 570 or an HD 6970, the performance difference between PCIe 2.0 x16 and x8 (which is the same as PCIe 1.x) is about 8%.

Thus, the practical conclusion is that if you have anything less than a 560 Ti/HD 6950, PCIe 2.0 will not make a difference for a single card configuration. However, it makes quite the difference for dual GPU setups and higher end graphics cards.
 

Jripper

Pro/An---tagonist xD
And are there any problems to fit the graphics card into the port? For example,heard a rumour that ati 7xxx series cards are going to be pci 3 compliant. So going by the above discussions and links, I take it that one can run the 7xxx series cards on a pci 2.0X16 board?
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
And are there any problems to fit the graphics card into the port? For example,heard a rumour that ati 7xxx series cards are going to be pci 3 compliant. So going by the above discussions and links, I take it that one can run the 7xxx series cards on a pci 2.0X16 board?
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/graphic-c...ormation-regarding-graphic-cards-newbies.html

^^ I've explained everything here.

In short, yes.
 
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