New PC for gamming

[rapusa]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans: games: Mostly RTS games like lotr ,SC-2 and darksider and combat games like tekken vs streatfighter, MMO games.
Playing HD contents (3D too).,

2. What is your overall budget?
Ans:30-35k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Not sure.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 8 & Linux.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB minimum

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No. Have samsung SyncMaster PX2370 (full HD 1080p at 60 fps ).

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Monitor, HDD (segate baracuda 1TB), KB .mouse, GPU (geforce 9400 gt 1 gb),speakers,UPS.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Next week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: With help of assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:India.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Looking for mobo with USB 3.0 support.Prefer Intel rig.Will upgrade GPU latter.
Please include GPU in suggestion too but keep it out of budget limit.
Thanks

 

[harshilsharma63]

> 9400 GS is no good. I recommend you sell it.

> SSD in a 30k gaming PC is not possible without going too imbalanced. A better graphic card is more important here than slightly quicker boot times.

> Assemble yourself. Why spend 500 bucks for something you can do yourself?

> How much can you extend the budget?

> Why only an Intel rig?

> All Intel processors (other than Xeons) have IGP.

My suggestion:

FX 6300 (7200)
Gigabyte 970A DS3 (5500)
Kingston HyperX blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2600)
Sapphire HD7790 (10000)
Seasonic S12II 430W (3600)
NZXT Gamma (2300)

total: 31,200

 

[rapusa]

> 9400 GS is no good. I recommend you sell it.

> SSD in a 30k gaming PC is not possible without going too imbalanced. A better graphic card is more important here than slightly quicker boot times.

> Assemble yourself. Why spend 500 bucks for something you can do yourself?

> How much can you extend the budget?

> Why only an Intel rig?

> All Intel processors (other than Xeons) have IGP.

My suggestion:

FX 6300 (7200)
Gigabyte 970A DS3 (5500)
Kingston HyperX blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2600)
Sapphire HD7790 (10000)
Seasonic S12II 430W (3600)
NZXT Gamma (2300)

total: 31,200

I will upgrade my GPU but not planning to do that atm. Will see how my gefore 9400 gt perform with new CPU.
30-35k budget don't include GPU.
I can assemble myself but assembler is my friend so no extra cost anyway.
Well I prefer intel cuz my current 6-7 yr old rig has intel dual core and I never had any issue with it yet. Its still in good condition.
No idea about IGP, can you explain why it matters here ?

 

[Nighthawk12]

Integrated Graphics Processor i.e Inbuilt graphic card but AMD FX 6300 doesn't have it.

 

[harshilsharma63]

I will upgrade my GPU but not planning to do that atm. Will see how my gefore 9400 gt perform with new CPU.
30-35k budget don't include GPU.
I can assemble myself but assembler is my friend so no extra cost anyway.
Well I prefer intel cuz my current 6-7 yr old rig has intel dual core and I never had any issue with it yet. Its still in good condition.
No idea about IGP, can you explain why it matters here ?

> If you will upgrade the GPU later, then that's fine. But, instead of upgrading later, why not invest just 5-7 k more now and get GTX 660? The rig I've mentioned is perfectly enough for gaming.

> That's no reason not to buy AMD processor

> IGP: Integrated Graphic Processor, or simply inbuilt GPU. When you insert a graphic card in PC, the integrated graphics automatically get disabled. It's not of any concern if you'll be using a graphic card.

Looking for mobo with USB 3.0 support.Prefer Intel rig. Don't want processor with inbuilt GPU.Will upgrade VRAM latter.
Please include Vram in suggestion too but keep it out of budget limit.

> I think you don't know what VRAM is. VRAM or Video RAM is the ram module integrated on a graphic card. YOU CANNOT UPGRADE/ADD VRAM. If a graphic card comes with 1 GB ram, it will stay 1 GB for it's entire life.

New suggestion:

i5 4430 (13000)
Asus B85M (6500)
Kingston HyperX blu 1600 MHz 4 GB x2 (5200)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4200)
NZXT Gamma (2300)

total: 31,200

 

[rapusa]

>
New suggestion:

i5 4430 (13000)
Asus B85M (6500)
Kingston HyperX blu 1600 MHz 4 GB x2 (5200)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4200)
NZXT Gamma (2300)

total: 31,200

Looks good combo but I prob go for intel i5 4570 @ 14.5k (no K cuz not interested in OC).
Thanks

 

[harshilsharma63]

There is absolutelly no gaming performance disperence between any two different models of i5. At 14k, its not a good value. 4430 will perform similarly to 4570 in all apps.

 

[hitman4]

i5 4570 will be better imo as it supports hyperthreading and trusted execution technology.

 

[harshilsharma63]

i5 4570 will be better imo as it supports hyperthreading and trusted execution technology.

> It won't provide much gaming performance gain for the extra 3k. bad value IMO.

> What exactly do you mean by trusted execution? Do you mean Data Execution prevention?

 

[rapusa]

> It won't provide much gaming performance gain for the extra 3k. bad value IMO.

> What exactly do you mean by trusted execution? Do you mean Data Execution prevention?

About Price , difference is 1.5-2k only. Intel® TSX-NI(efficient multithreading, not for gaming but little extra for programmers) is one of 3 extra feature and a bonus of 0.2GHz speed.
BTW check this :ARK | Compare Intel® Products
Why not pick i5 3570 , is Haswell give any advantage over Ivy bridge in general (not just games) ?
I decided to add 10-15k extra for GPU, and prob get gtx 660 or 650 ti boost 2gb.
can you give more options for mobo and Cabinet in case I can't found those in market ?

 

[harshilsharma63]

About Price , difference is 1.5-2k only. Intel® TSX-NI(efficient multithreading, not for gaming but little extra for programmers) is one of 3 extra feature and a bonus of 0.2GHz speed.
BTW check this :ARK | Compare Intel® Products
Why not pick i5 3570 , is Haswell give any advantage over Ivy bridge in general (not just games) ?
I decided to add 10-15k extra for GPU, and prob get gtx 660 or 650 ti boost 2gb.
can you give more options for mobo and Cabinet in case I can't found those in market ?

> 3rd gen is already EOLd. you should stay with 4 th gen.

> There's only 10% performance difference between 3rd and 4th gen.

> Why not buy online?

 

[ASHISH65]

i5 4570 will be better imo as it supports hyperthreading and trusted execution technology.

i5 doesnot supports hyperthreading,only i3 and i7 does.

@op get i5 4430 and there is no difference between 4430 and 4570 in real world gaming

 

[rapusa]

Ok here 2 rigs in my mind now :
Intel:
i5 4430 (13000)/ i5 4570 if price diff is not high
Asus B85M (6500)/ or Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K ??
Kingston HyperX blu 1600 MHz 4 GB x2 (5200)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4200)
NZXT Gamma (2300)

AMD:
FX 8350 (13000) / why not fx 6300 ? this looks better and within budget
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)/ why ? just copy from other posts
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4200)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Do I need to OC fx 8350 to get performance like i5 or I can skip OC ?

GPU : HD 7870 2 GB for 16.5K
gainward GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 16k
ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2 GB GDDR5 13k

 

[harshilsharma63]

Ok here 2 rigs in my mind now :
Intel:
i5 4430 (13000)/ i5 4570 if price diff is not high
Asus B85M (6500)/ or Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K ??
Kingston HyperX blu 1600 MHz 4 GB x2 (5200)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4200)
NZXT Gamma (2300)

AMD:
FX 8350 (13000) / why not fx 6300 ? this looks better and within budget
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)/ why ? just copy from other posts
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4200)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Do I need to OC fx 8350 to get performance like i5 or I can skip OC ?

GPU : HD 7870 2 GB for 16.5K
gainward GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 16k
ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2 GB GDDR5 13k

> I vote for Intel rig as it better suits your needs: just gaming.

> What's your budget for graphic card?

 

[rapusa]

> I vote for Intel rig as it better suits your needs: just gaming.

> What's your budget for graphic card?

GPU budget 16k but I want GPU that can handle games in 1080p with high settings.
what you think of mobo ? Asus B85M (6500)/ or Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K ??
any suggestion of online purchase site for these items ? can't find all items locally.

 

[rijinpk1]

i5 4570 will be better imo as it supports hyperthreading and trusted execution technology.

i5 4570 dont support hyperthreading technolgy

GPU budget 16k but I want GPU that can handle games in 1080p with high settings.
what you think of mobo ? Asus B85M (6500)/ or Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K ??
any suggestion of online purchase site for these items ? can't find all items locally.

take Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K. for purchasing online, try primeabgb,smcinternational,mdcomputers,theitdepot,theitwares etc,

 

[harshilsharma63]

GPU budget 16k but I want GPU that can handle games in 1080p with high settings.
what you think of mobo ? Asus B85M (6500)/ or Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K ??
any suggestion of online purchase site for these items ? can't find all items locally.

> For motherboard, I vote for Asus because of easily available service center and product quality.

> For graphic card, get Sapphire HD7870.

 

[rapusa]

> For motherboard, I vote for Asus because of easily available service center and product quality.

> For graphic card, get Sapphire HD7870.

PSU for this card ? will need 600w PSU ? as recommended here :*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/graphic-cards/151004-best-graphic-cards-money-india.html

BTW HD 7870 price 19k+ in flipcart: Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 Flex Edition 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card - Sapphire: Flipkart.com
is this same GPU ?

 

[harshilsharma63]

PSU for this card ? will need 600w PSU ? as recommended here :*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/graphic-cards/151004-best-graphic-cards-money-india.html

BTW HD 7870 price 19k+ in flipcart: Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 Flex Edition 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card - Sapphire: Flipkart.com
is this same GPU ?

> Seasonic S12II 520 W will be enough.

> That is the flex edition. Get the non flex or whichever 7870 under your budget.

 

[rapusa]

Ok i got 2 card on mdc computers :
1. ON SALE! - SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD HD 7870 2GB DDR5 XT WITH BOOST - Rs.18,113
2. ON SALE! - SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD HD 7870 2GB DDR5 GHz EDITION - Rs.17,179

both seems identical but XT have 4800 mhz MEMORY CLOCK while normal got 6000 mhz ? why XT got more price ?